So yeah this just happened. While the Steam version uses Denuvo, the version straight from Bethesda was uploaded without ANY protection. Somebody REALLY fucked up. Should be interesting for performance comparisons with and without Denuvo.
Whoops lol.
This has to be the first absolute clear comparison we will get right?
now here's a feature that benefits the consumer in competition for their launcher!
From there:https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/RAGE_2#Notes
Findings from PCgamingwiki tester.
Most notable:
The Bethesda.net version can be launched without the accompanied Bethesda.net Launcher on a machine the game have never been installed on before, although in the main menu a prompt about the game requiring a one-time online validation is shown, which requires the Bethesda.net Launcher.
- Initial launch time is much faster for the Bethesda.net version, ~1s vs. ~5s for the Steam version.
- This is the main counter-argument of the conclusion, but when combined with everything else it would seem this is much more likely to be a basic custom DRM scheme from the developers of the game.
Press review copies were handed out to reviewers through the Steam version, where the press_review branch was even with the public branch upon release day.[3] This suggests that Denuvo Anti-Tamper might have been primarily used on the Steam version to protect the game from being leaked by reviewers online before the release date had passed.
From there:
Which is actually a valid argument, since we just saw Yakuza Kiwami 2 get leaked through the press build. I wonder if the Steam version will have Denuvo patched out, since it's now redundant.
bethesda offering consumer friendly features, I might actually consider using the launcher if this is the case (not to mention Rage 2's steam regional pricing suck and costs less on 3rd party retailers)
Ye, I'm the buddy. Put in around... 6 or so hours now and have not seen anything below 80 yet. 90 is usually right where I'm at so it's unlikely Denuvo is actually causing any sort of performance issues. That being said, I still want to see it removed from Steam and want to see some more scientific research than me just looking at my frame counter every once in a while.Me and my buddy with virtually identical PCs (he has a 2700x stock, I have a 1700 at 3.9 GHz, both have RTX 2080s) have had virtually identical performance, as we normally do in games. He has it on steam, I've got it on the bethesda launcher. We've both been around 90 fps at 1440p ultra settings. There may be a difference in CPU bound areas though.
From there:
Which is actually a valid argument, since we just saw a Denuvo-less Yakuza Kiwami 2 get leaked through the press build. I wonder if the Steam version will have Denuvo patched out, since it's now redundant.
So that's why my Bethesda version runs perfectly maxed on my 1070gtx? I thought people talking bad performance were crazy.
Now I'm glad I got it for the Bethesda launcher by accident (ordered it from GMG without noticing the DRM).
Can anyone confirm the size of the Denuvo-free EXE? Mine's showing up as 47,518 KB on Windows Explorer (46.4 MB when right-clicking on it). I just want to make sure there was no update, since I was only able to download the game a few minutes ago.
Based on coverage only it sounds like Capcom made a smaller goof. You could download Denuvo-less DMCV if you asked Steam to "update testing version", you never got it by default.So is this basically like DMCV's thing where the Denuvo-less version was uploaded?
From there:
Which is actually a valid argument, since we just saw a Denuvo-less Yakuza Kiwami 2 get leaked through the press build. I wonder if the Steam version will have Denuvo patched out, since it's now redundant.
I think Denuvo mainly affects the startup and loading times.Me and my buddy with virtually identical PCs (he has a 2700x stock, I have a 1700 at 3.9 GHz, both have RTX 2080s) have had virtually identical performance, as we normally do in games. He has it on steam, I've got it on the bethesda launcher. We've both been around 90 fps at 1440p ultra settings. There may be a difference in CPU bound areas though.