It's an absurd quote.Man people really hate Biden, huh.
I guess we're just looking for something we can consider a gaffe.
"Why do people hate Joe Biden"Because he actually has a chance of winning so people are paying more attention.
Furthermore not sure what this and Cipherr's prupose even is in this thread. "Oh a lot of people hate him now but he wasn't as hated before so this means it's all manufactured outrage instead of literally hundreds of other reasons"
I seriously don't get your point. Do you expect us to hate on Biden if he hadn't run for president? It's the same as hating on Bush right now. We all hate him, but he has no business in politics anymore so what's the point? When Biden announced his campaign, it's always going to put him on the firing line. He's more relevant now that he can possibly affect my life.I said what my point was. My point was the hatred that's being directed at him is new and came with his campaign announcement. It looks like you agree. Fix your tone and read my post; and I never commented on anyones ire at anything except this particular statement which I still stand by, so don't try slipping "his past record" in there as if its the topic of this discussion when it isn't. Keep those goalposts in place.
In his defense, I'm guessing he means that he plans on throwing shitloads of money towards cancer research.
Strange nobody in this thread is dragging Obama or even referencing the video...
I'm saying everyone does it. Like, many US politicians talk about gun restriction legislation when trying to get re-elected, but everyone knows that ain't passing. Sanders did the same shit a couple of nights ago in a CNN interview, with regards to student loan forgiveness.
Oh, burn. Do you think anyone gives a shit about memes? Even in the UK? How's that helping all the EU nationals left wondering what's going on. If "mock the shit out of them" is a valid political after-effect, more people should watch Mock The Week or HIGNFY.
Okay. Good for you. How about acknowledging my point number 2, which says that the President can and does directly influence health research?
I seriously don't get your point. Do you expect us to hate on Biden if he hadn't run for president? It's the same as hating on Bush right now. We all hate him, but he has no business in politics anymore so what's the point? When Biden announced his campaign, it's always going to put him on the firing line. He's more relevant now that he can possibly affect my life.
The President or presidential candidates should still not be talking shit to try and buy votes. It's unethical. Especially around something as serious as cancer.
If he secures the nomination, good luck on motivating black voters to come out.
Which Democratic candidate is doing the best with black voters per latest polls?Yeah, there are plenty of reasons to dislike the man. Here are some:
If he secures the nomination, good luck on motivating black voters to come out.
Which Democratic candidate is doing the best with black voters per latest polls?
He gets more hate because because the left has a bigger voice.If you are still having a problem getting my point I again redirect you to read the post again. First of all, it was a response to another post. So if you have an issue with it being spoken about, then you need to quote the person I responded to. And I fully know exactly what happens to people when they announce their candidacy; Im not one of the people that was too young to vote last term, so yes I know that. In fact, that's part of the point I made. When the person I quoted (which you seem to keep missing) stated that Biden was always this disliked, I challenged that. And I stand by that challenge. There's a very clear and distinct, if not expected massive growth in the vitriol to everything he says post candidacy than there was beforehand. It's strange that you keep agreeing with me, yet keep trying to somehow paint my post as "out there" for some reason.
The poster I quoted was wrong. No he is clearly more hated now than then. The point of my post was to relay that to the poster. (That's why I quoted him).
I'm not sure how much more clear I can make that for you.
But this surely gets into subjective grounds. I view forgiving student debt as "buying votes" - I think it's cynical manipulation of the youth vote. But that doesn't mean the will or finances aren't there to make great strides in such a thing. The same with gun restrictions.
If your "step too far" is cancer research, okays. But, again, let's not pretend that this isn't a) specific to America, or b) specific to Biden and cancer. Which is certainly what some people here are doing.
Joe Biden leads Democratic rivals when it comes to enthusiasm among black voters: poll
Which Democratic candidate is doing the best with black voters per latest polls?
I expect better of people who aren't right wing snake oil merchants. If the leader of the party I vote for was making claims about curing cancer with votes I'd be taking the piss out of them and stating more seriously it was an unethical claim.
That's good for the President, like it is every President. It's also good to know the rest of the world, in countries which aren't going full balls to the wall profiteering off pharma, we're investing non stop in cancer research too.
The President or presidential candidates should still not be talking shit to try and buy votes. It's unethical. Especially around something as serious as cancer.
It is a lofty goal that we should aspire for. Just like when Jack Kennedy said to put a man on the moon and bring him back safely within 10 years. Setting a goal such as curing cancer is not a joke, but if its taken seriously many great things can come from it.
I like Joe but I don't want him to win the Nomination(I want new blood), but I will vote for him if he wins it. That being said, this sort of rhetoric is necessary in times like this. We as a country don't dream big anymore. We talk dollars and cents, instead of looking at the future and what could be possible. We are explorers after all, we need to reach out further than our forefathers and reach for new horizons in all aspects of life.
That curing cancer isn't a passion for him? Or, as our previous president stated, "With the right investment and a belief in the ingenuity of the American people, there's nothing we can't do?"
You are miss interpreting what I am saying. Having ideas that aspire innovation, and putting those ideas forward is a good thing. Focusing the resources of different agencies for things like this is a good thing.Please stop talking about putting people on the moon inline with curing cancer. It's a bit comical.
This rhetoric is not necessary. Tell Biden to give more of a shit about Universal healthcare if you want to use your landing on the moon comparisons.
Are you trying to imply curing cancer isn't already being taken seriously and we've just been waiting on big Joe to call it?
Why not make the currently existing treatment modalities actually affordable to the people who need it though. Why put all this focus on curing it when it's obvious to anyone who knows anything about cancer that "curing" cancer is a fool's errand when put that way
That would imply that he would change how pharmaceuticals do their work and make sure the proper research is funded to get the cure made.
I'm game for that.
Man people really hate Biden, huh.
I guess we're just looking for something we can consider a gaffe.
His son died of cancer. What is wrong with you?That's one of the most shameless things I've seen a politician do to try and win power.
Fuck Biden.
Yeah so he should know better.
You can't "cure" cancer it doesn't work that way.
Moreover even if you could, the access to treatment is so unattainable for so many it's a hollow thing.
And worst of all he isn't even saying I want to cure cancer or I will do everything I can to cure cancer he's promising to do so, even though he must know he has no ability to make that a reality.
Biden actually curing cancer has as much likelihood of becoming reality as any progressive darling's moonshot policy proposal. But you don't see me cynically accusing the father of a cancer victim of using his personal loss to score political pointsYeah so he should know better.
Apparently it keeps needing to be repeated so I'll quote for emphasis..
Biden actually curing cancer has as much likelihood of becoming reality as any progressive darling's moonshot policy proposal. But you don't see me cynically accusing the father of a cancer victim of using his personal loss to score political points
People are saying they're gonna try to solve climate change so why not try cancer?
Really kind of disgusted how people are using it against him and his son died of brain cancer.
"Millions of species will die!"
And the response is "Yeah so what"