Must be nice to have the complexion or maybe the cowardice to think like this
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"Blacks at Xbox" - Incredibly tone-deaf? (Update: Xbox Communication Manager explains)
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This is how I saw it RE: All the "our blacks at Xbox" posts. As "Our [Blacks at Xbox]-community"
If they named themselves, I don't know how I could give them grief for that.
This is just so ignorant I barely know how to respond, It doesn't matter what you'd want to be referred to as if you were a part of the group because you are not a part of the group.
"Black Women and Men of Xbox"
Thats it. Its not that hard. Yall trippin lol
Nothjng personal to you vern just saying in general as an option to your post
The world is a lot bigger than those 'blacks at x-box' though. It may be cool with them, but the rest of us are in a state of wtf.
Bit weird but I'm not getting mad about it.
I mean, if the group's name is 'Blacks at Xbox', then It's just awkward phrasing in the first tweet lol.
Though to clarify, as a black person myself I wouldn't self identify with "blacks", but I won't begrudge others doing so.
It just sounds..wrong. For me, anyway.
I mean, if the group's name is 'Blacks at Xbox', then It's just awkward phrasing in the first tweet lol.
Though to clarify, as a black person myself I wouldn't self identify with "blacks", but I won't begrudge others doing so.
It just sounds..wrong. For me, anyway.
This. Saying "well the black folks in the company thought it up" doesn't mean people who take issue with it are wrong or something.
That said, actual communication is better than standing back shaking your head. The intention here was to be inclusive as possible, so feedback won't fall on deaf ears.
Blacks at Xbox is the group.
I actually went to their event this past week.
I'm a part of a blacks resource group in the tech company I'm at right now.
No issue with it from me.
I actually went to their event this past week.
I'm a part of a blacks resource group in the tech company I'm at right now.
No issue with it from me.
Laugh to keep from crying.
Take something might normally disparage us and flip it.
Like there are black podcasts named "The Black Guy who Tips", "Where's my 40 acres?"", "So well spoken", "Two black guys with good credit", etc
You are done right there. The whole point of calling themselves black is to show that xbox is diverse and does support inclusivity. This is something to make black people know that we do exist in the industry and are doing wonderful things.
Why do people expect black people who are American to call themselves African American? I always find it weird especially since a lot of black people were just born in America and have american ancestry that goes back further than many others that just go by American. I've always preferred black instead of some random blanket African American unless of course you are an African immigrant.
Yeah still really weird to me and I can see why people are talking about it the way the are
That's 100% my mistake as I searched the group to research and one article bolded the first for words of the sentence, along with the capitalization making me think that was the entire title.
Like I said it's a good initiative with a good message, people should check out the site.
I fucking hate that picture though. I don't care who drew it. We can call that an aesthetic opinion though.
yeah i'm done with this thread. Some stealth trolls in here it appears. Read my comments. If you don't understand people can get confused about such community names it's not my problem. It's like whites at Nintendo or Asians at google. Who cares?
They can call themselves whatever the hell they want, it's their group and not any of ours. The same way that people love to call me African-American and I correct them every time and tell them to call me black. You can't be offended/put off/mad for someone else by something they created. If that's their title, you have literally 0 choice but to step the fuck back and move on(and preferably find something more important to care about).
How is this taking away from that? I currently live in the Seattle area, and I was planning to move to Philly in a few months. This actually has raised awareness for me about what MS has going on there(I was moving partly because of the demographics here) and I'm going to check on them.
How is this taking away from that? I currently live in the Seattle area, and I was planning to move to Philly in a few months. This actually has raised awareness for me about what MS has going on there(I was moving partly because of the demographics here) and I'm going to check on them.
No, but I'm not a part of the Blacks at Xbox group either and cannot presume to know how or why they chose to identify themselves in that way, which is a situational and personal decision. I was responding to your comment that you were not a part of "that group" meaning the Blacks at Xbox group.
So it's similar to the N-word? Some black people use it, while some wish it would just go away entirely and not be uttered by any black people either.
Edit: Don't mean to imply that there's similar baggage and history to these words and that they would be equally offensive and hurtful.
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And, once again, I'm saying that it is their right to identify with that name, and that there is nothing wrong with it. I don't even know what you're trying to argue. That doesn't mean that black people identifying (without irony) with the term "blacks" isn't strange.
What? It's literally their opinion that matters here. And you are not being called blacks here, since you are not part of that group which decided to be called that.
ITT people are offended and made uncomfortable by a group of black individuals identifying themselves however they fucking want. The second you learn this is the name they chose you should say, "oh my bad, maybe I should reexamine my biases and assumptions that a black group may have been created and named without black agency, carry on" not double down on what YOU think they should have done instead. Your discomfort is nobody's problem but your own, Please! fuck off
I get it. Founded and ran by black people. But it points to a bigger issue that this is how they chose to name their group. If Xbox had made diversity a bigger initiative there wouldn't be a "Blacks at Xbox" it would be something more abstract and cultural. This is literally "hey we're black and we work at Xbox, that's unique enough".
I'm not outraged. I'm just pointing out the likely atmosphere of the corporation.
It's a discussion board. People are discussing it. Nobody is calling for Phil Spencer to resign.
Make one without the fist bump graphic and take my money tho.
Yep. The black ERG in my previous company was also called Blacks@company, and it was wholly run by black people.
my exact thoughts. my company also has a Black @ <company name> ERG which i am in
No, this group that I've never heard of before this thread and will never think of again once it drops off the first page should cater to my personal desires.
That is way to long for a catch phrase.
Not working. Especially not working in tandem with the Women of/in Xbox and some other groups.
As someone who was on an affinity board and knows many of the folks building these groups at a few companies this one included, it's not about making a homogenous group and saying yay affinity. It's about giving power to folks to not only own and represent their culture but recruit specifically to their culture and people and grow diversity at the companies. Don't worry, we all get together to put our multiorg events, but this is done so we're not lost in the sea of 'everyone is diverse' and 'all lives matter'
But what about the non-binaries?
The reality is picking a name that's going to make EVERYONE happy is a tall order, and probably not feasible when it comes to a situation like this where you're identifying a specific minority group by what makes them part of that group.
The best name would probably be one that didn't refer to them by what makes them part of said group.
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