and that's why its a problem
eh, not gonna go that far with concern trolling but it is shitty to not be transparent with staff about these sorts of changes
Is it really fanboyish to be panicking about years of work potentially all going down the drain?I find it extraordinarily hard to believe the higher ups at PlayStation didn't know this deal was happening. Very hard.
The way that's worded makes it sound like PlayStation is run by fanboys or something.
Well, we don't prepare on forums for no reason. Lots of good opportunities for fanboy graduates to make a living.I find it extraordinarily hard to believe the higher ups at PlayStation didn't know this deal was happening. Very hard.
The way that's worded makes it sound like PlayStation is run by fanboys or something.
I'm still surprised they didn't continue with Amazon, especially if this means major structural changes. I know nothing of the tech differences, but it seems Amazon has no problem with reach or resources.
Shame about the blindside.
Sony and Amazon held talks last year for a deeper collaboration on cloud gaming, but couldn't agree on commercial terms, according to a person familiar with the matter.
The company's other online game service and main cash cow, PlayStation Network, enables multiplayer matches of games running on PlayStation 4 consoles. For now that is still hosted by the other giant of cloud computing: Amazon Web Services. Sony and Amazon held talks last year for a deeper collaboration on cloud gaming, but couldn't agree on commercial terms, according to a person familiar with the matter. That led to Sony's discussions with Microsoft, the person said. Amazon is currently developing its own cloud gaming service, the Information reported last year.
They had talks according to the article, seems Amazon didn't offer what Sony wanted so they had talks with another mega Cloud service provider and liked what they had to offer. Presumably MS really wants Sony's image sensors too and it's probably why it's become a full on partnership, instead of 1 just supplying the other with something they lack.I'm still surprised they didn't continue with Amazon, especially if this means major structural changes. I know nothing of the tech differences, but it seems Amazon has no problem with reach or resources.
Shame about the blindside.
How?It honestly feels like the first sign of bad things to come for Playstation, like there's that sudden feeling of "this... feels weird"
wouldn't this mean MS will have access to psn network info, I thought the whole cross platform play debacle is because Sony is very protective about their psn accounts and don't want MS anywhere near them, which is why they're ok with pc cross play but not with xbox.Good on Sony and MS for working out a better deal then Amazon were offering. The beauty of competition. I'd say MS might host the entire PlayStation network next gen. And if Sony supply MS with image sensors it's win win all round.
I'm positive that Xbox will have to pay for access to Azure. Regulators almost split up Microsoft over anti-competitive behavior, and since then, their internal training videos hammer in the threat of being regulated for monopolistic, anti-competitive actions. Internal communication between engineers is one thing, but I doubt Xbox will get very much preferential treatment.The article says it may be a loss for Sony in the long term since they have to pay for Azure access, but isn't it the same for Xbox? I doubt Xbox would be allowed to get the Azure space for free or at a significant discount.
wouldn't this mean MS will have access to psn network info, I thought the whole cross platform play debacle is because Sony is very protective about their psn accounts and don't want MS anywhere near them, which is why they're ok with pc cross play but not with xbox.
We don't actually know if PSN is moving over at this point, PSNow is a safe bet though.wouldn't this mean MS will have access to psn network info, I thought the whole cross platform play debacle is because Sony is very protective about their psn accounts and don't want MS anywhere near them, which is why they're ok with pc cross play but not with xbox.
eh, not gonna go that far with concern trolling but it is shitty to not be transparent with staff about these sorts of changes
Sony's lawyers would be rubbing their hands with the thought of that. MS wouldn't be so stupid. The bottom line for Sony is will MS offer a better service and at a better price?wouldn't this mean MS will have access to psn network info, I thought the whole cross platform play debacle is because Sony is very protective about their psn accounts and don't want MS anywhere near them, which is why they're ok with pc cross play but not with xbox.
Sony's lawyers would be rubbing their hands with the thought of that. MS wouldn't be so stupid. The bottom line for Sony is will MS offer a better service and at a better price?
The article says it may be a loss for Sony in the long term since they have to pay for Azure access, but isn't it the same for Xbox? I doubt Xbox would be allowed to get the Azure space for free or at a significant discount.
Is it really fanboyish to be panicking about years of work potentially all going down the drain?
So the way it was worded is not far off from the truth? The majority of employees aren't at positions that could possibly be knowledgeable of these discussions.Read what I said.
I said it's worded in a way that makes it sound fanboyish. Not that it IS the case.
Reality: "Lower Level PlayStation employees part of the PSNow team were unaware of this deal and upset at all he sudden change withoutbhwir knowledge"
The way this is worded: "PlayStation didn't know about this deal and all the employees were crying"
I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Competing companies partner for needs all of the time.It honestly feels like the first sign of bad things to come for Playstation, like there's that sudden feeling of "this... feels weird"
There are much bigger companies than Sony that have data much more sensitive on Azure. What would MS gain from PSN accounts? Xbox is a small part of their company. From a business standpoint, they gain nothing from accessing those accounts and more from Sony using their service.wouldn't this mean MS will have access to psn network info, I thought the whole cross platform play debacle is because Sony is very protective about their psn accounts and don't want MS anywhere near them, which is why they're ok with pc cross play but not with xbox.
Read what I said.Read what I said.
I said it's worded in a way that makes it sound fanboyish. Not that it IS the case.
Reality: "Lower Level PlayStation employees part of the PSNow team were unaware of this deal and upset at all he sudden change withoutbhwir knowledge"
The way this is worded: "PlayStation didn't know about this deal and all the employees were crying"
I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Competing companies partner for needs all of the time.
LG and Samsung supply Sony's OLED and LCD panels respectively. Many other companies do the same. It's completely normal for competing companies to cooperate or use each other's services to mutual benefit.
And on the other aspect. This is a Bloomberg article and we don't know the veracity of their sources and the article doesn't even specify WHO on the PlayStation team was blindsided. I almost guarantee the execs at PlayStation knew what was going on.
I don't get why people see these deals as strange.
Vaios used Windows, Apple uses (used to use?) Samsung RAM, A few TV Makers were using Sharp panels.
It's all business.
I know a few people who work at PlayStation and one of em prefers playing Xbox and that makes his coworkers upset lol.I find it extraordinarily hard to believe the higher ups at PlayStation didn't know this deal was happening. Very hard.
The way that's worded makes it sound like PlayStation is run by fanboys or something.
I don't get why people see these deals as strange.
Vaios used Windows, Apple uses (used to use?) Samsung RAM, A few TV Makers were using Sharp panels.
It's all business.
Microsoft owns Azure and Xbox. So if it makes you feel better that Microsoft puts money from its left pocket into to its right pocket then I guess your right?!?!?!?!
Sorry, should be PSN, not PSNow.Do you have a source for PS Now using AWS? Unless they're paying Amazon to colocate a bunch of custom server hardware, that seems doubtful. I was under the impression Gaikai had their own data centers and infrastructure prior to the Sony sale that was then put to work for PS Now.
If Playstation Now lags, it's Microsofts fault.
If it works flawlessly, it's Sonys cloud patents.
Smart.