i seriously doubt most of GenPop believes that the PCC thing is the biggest contributor for decreasing criminality in SP. Esp when alckmin was pushing all the several increases to the police state he made during his tenure.
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Brazilian General Election 2018 |OT| [UP: Fascist Bolsonaro won and will be President]
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I prefer to think that Bolsonaro is a mix of Trump and Duterte, which means he is worse than those two.
My fear with Bolsonaro is that he looks at the military coup as an option.
Some people are afraid that yersteday was the last time we had a vote for anything. I don't know how right they are on this, but Bolsonaro doesn't inspire trust at all.
Some people are afraid that yersteday was the last time we had a vote for anything. I don't know how right they are on this, but Bolsonaro doesn't inspire trust at all.
People who are against Lula won't suddenly start voting for PT just because his name isn't in the slogan.
If anything, polls were showing Lula would crush Bolsonaro if he had been able to run for this election.
Bolsonaro was polling way lower when polls showed Lula beating him by a lot. Hell, he performed way better than what he was polling yesterday.
I don't really see a significant amount of people who voted for Bolsonaro voting for Lula instead if he was running. If anything, it would only energize his anti-PT speech more.
He's actively and openly calling for murder, essentially. He wanted the police to kill more people. He wants the army to eliminate refugees. He wants to sterilize poor people. The shit cherry on the shit sundae? He's openly calling to a return to a dictatorship.
Yeah. He said that our military dictatorship failed because it didn't killed enough people.
Eh I don't know. You gotta consider something:
The "average" Lula voter has more in common with Bolsonaro's "ideals" than with other candidates.
The poor northeastern family that voted in Lula is, in general:
Extremely religious.
Conservatives.
Actively hate groups like LGBT.
Thinks that violence is the answer to violence.
Those marginalized groups voted in Lula because Lula was the first(and only) that gave a shit about them. But put those people in any other economic group, they'd be wearing Bolsonaro's shirts all day long.
In the lack of a Lula, quite a few of them won't turn to Haddad. They'll turn to the candidate that have the most similar ideas to them. And in most cases that's Bolsonaro. Which is insane, but it shows how our country truly is.
If Lula was still running, I am sure he'd get a bigger pull here than Haddad did.
LOL whatsapp groups on fire today.
Part of me wishes it was settled on the first turn already and we get it over with, the dollar roller coaster this past month was terrible where I work.
Part of me wishes it was settled on the first turn already and we get it over with, the dollar roller coaster this past month was terrible where I work.
Yep, that's how I feel right now.
More like choosing between a shot in the foot and one in the temple.
Err. I still hoping for a miracle in the second round, but we already lost. We elected the worst congress I ever seen and I thought the previous ones were already pretty disgusting.
Even if for a miracle Haddad wins, I can already see him and his vice being impeached(they will find a reason).
We should focus in protecting our democracy and our institutions in the next years.
Even if for a miracle Haddad wins, I can already see him and his vice being impeached(they will find a reason).
We should focus in protecting our democracy and our institutions in the next years.
Oh yeah. Bolsonaro makes Trump look like an outright leftist. He's a Nazi, outright.
There are some people expecting that Bolsonaro will "soften up" when he becomes president.
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I remember people saying the same about Trump. So, we're fucked.
one of the kids does get shot and killed after having to chose.
Because, at the same time that he is winning, he is also the most rejected candidate. I'm guessing that Bozo and Haddad will pander to the center.
From the horse's mouth:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-love-after-winning-first-round-idUKKCN1MI0QI
He said he plans to "pacify Brazil". He's definitely closer to Duterte than to Trump.
I know brazil is racist country look at this for one.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/28581/demand-white-american-sperm-surges-brazil-amanda-prestigiacomo
https://www.dailywire.com/news/28581/demand-white-american-sperm-surges-brazil-amanda-prestigiacomo
I'm a dual citizenship American with a Brazilian citizenship (born in the US). This fight over Bolsonaro has been on going in my US household for weeks, with me trying to convince my increasingly conservative mom (who is also dual-citizen, but born in Brazil) that while the political situation is incredibly rough, Bolsonaro is not the solution the country needs.
However, she's already drank the kool-aid & thinks PT is 1 election away from turning Brazil into another Venezuela. And now, his supporters who are sending videos all over social media, are saying the election was rigged because there were people in voting centers saying they were votin for Bolsonaro, but that the vote was being cancelled out. Cops were even called. And all this does is feed into the corruption/socialism narrative that Bolsonaro has been harping on PT for.
Its unbelievably hard to see a scenario where he doesn't just win, but his support won't increase in the next few weeks leading up to the 2nd round. I have a little cousin in Sao Paulo who I finally brought on a trip to the US this past summer that I think i'm going to bring him over & help him immigrate & finish HS here.
However, she's already drank the kool-aid & thinks PT is 1 election away from turning Brazil into another Venezuela. And now, his supporters who are sending videos all over social media, are saying the election was rigged because there were people in voting centers saying they were votin for Bolsonaro, but that the vote was being cancelled out. Cops were even called. And all this does is feed into the corruption/socialism narrative that Bolsonaro has been harping on PT for.
Its unbelievably hard to see a scenario where he doesn't just win, but his support won't increase in the next few weeks leading up to the 2nd round. I have a little cousin in Sao Paulo who I finally brought on a trip to the US this past summer that I think i'm going to bring him over & help him immigrate & finish HS here.
It began. First victim.
Capoeira master Moa do Katende was killed in a bar by a Bolsonaro supporter after declaring support to Fernando Haddad.
https://noticias.uol.com.br/politic...cao-lutava-contra-a-intolerancia-na-bahia.htm
EDIT: I'd be grateful if any fellow portuguese speaker could translate this.
Capoeira master Moa do Katende was killed in a bar by a Bolsonaro supporter after declaring support to Fernando Haddad.
https://noticias.uol.com.br/politic...cao-lutava-contra-a-intolerancia-na-bahia.htm
EDIT: I'd be grateful if any fellow portuguese speaker could translate this.
Hope the fucker has a warm welcome in prison. I bet they are licking their lips waiting for a Bolsonaro supporter to get in there.
Fuck! I can't believe this.
The comments as always are full of idiots talking about how unfair and dishonest it is for the journal to attribute the crime to a bozo voter and that the killer wasn't even confirmed to be one... except for the fact that the police caught him and he confessed the motive was because he was saying in a bar (apparently screaming) pro-Bozo crap and the victim said that the people there were voting for PT, for that he stabbed the victim 12 times in the back.
https://m.extra.globo.com/casos-de-...zer-que-votou-no-pt-em-salvador-23139302.html
Yeah. Just read some comments under the video of John Oliver. They all think Haddad is like Maduro and will take away their freedom. When Bolsonaro will re-install the military dictatorship of the 1980s they won't have any freedom either.
Maybe Brazil would need a government of technocrats who are not involved in any corruption scandals.
Democracy is diseased
False equivalence between Bolsonero and Haddad is worse than saying Hillary Clinton and Trump are equivalent. Bolsonero is a repulsive fascist. It seems to me a lot of the public's reaction to corruption in Brazil reveals unfortunately how ignorant many people are.
The Taiga, none of the others are close to bigger than the Amazon.
Green Yoshi: Technocrats can be embroiled in corruption just like anybody else. What we need is decent fucking people with intelligent ideas and compassion. The failure of technocratic solutions is part of the reason why we are where we are.
I, too, find benevolent philosopher kings awesome.
Shame its so gosh durn tricky to find any of them.
Add fucking morons (regardless of education level) to the list too. Remember, this is the country where people like Paulo Maluf got elected time and time again and there are countless similar examples of the same all over Brazil.
And a lot of news are talking how this was more a anti-PT vote than a pro-Bozo vote, except they weren't the only ones running (and you have to completely ignore his hate speech on top of that).
I also like the "people wanted someone new", "someone out the system". Yeah, voting for a guy who has been a politician, a mediocre one by the way, for 27 years.
I guess that is what is making we depressed. To realize that a good portion of Brazil is no better than the average Trump supporter: willfully ignorant and hateful.
Bolsominions actually created a game on steam, its about Bolsonaro fighting communists, represented by gays, women and PoC.
I saw the trailer and its beyond disgusting, personally i will report this game to steam as this is just wrong no matter your political beliefs. If anyone want to see it for themselves here the link:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/930460/BOLSOMITO_2K18/
I saw the trailer and its beyond disgusting, personally i will report this game to steam as this is just wrong no matter your political beliefs. If anyone want to see it for themselves here the link:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/930460/BOLSOMITO_2K18/
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Man, this shit is really bad. This guy makes Duterte look like a human rights activist.
I know it's pretty worthless, but I feel for you, BrazilERA.
I know it's pretty worthless, but I feel for you, BrazilERA.
As seen in the US, people will vote against their best interest to persecute people who they feel are less than themselves.
It's fucked up. It's not a good way to go, and I hope that next time, people wake up. However, hope is not a strategy, so form a start up to educate the masses. :P
Isn't the vast majority of Brazil brown? Whites aren't the majority are they?
maybe after he wins the media will be all over him John Oliver's show does a good job
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