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BREAKING: Robert Mueller has completed his Russia investigation (SEE STAFF POST)
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It depends on if other illegal things have been revealed which can stick or if there are details which would make thing politically difficult for Trump.
We don't want his conclusions, we want the entire report released.
This doesn't mean we won't get the report eventually. There's probably a ton of redactions they've gotta work out before it's in our hands
Not surprised. It must be an incredibly detailed report, and not something to rush on.
"Maybe if I just never say anything people will forget about it"
I honestly don't care that it's unprecedented.
Justice needs to be served but I still don't expect much from the goddamn FBI.
Yep. Based on Mueller's reputation, there's probably an awful lot there to parse. I know many here are in despair over the no new indictments news, thinking this is going to be a nothingburger. I think the truth is going to lie somewhere in between. There will likely be enough meat present for the House to consider further investigation and/or possible impeachment proceedings, for obstruction if nothing else. Dems are likely about to have to make some difficult (political) calculations.
I don't think anyone can reasonably draw any conclusions form it taking more than 24 hours for the DOJ to decide how to release info about the report. This is a report that covers an investiation that has handed out nearly 40 indictments, that is probably massive.
It is likely this, yes.
Guys, Barr isn't going to try and hide the report. Nadler has already said that he would bring in Mueller for a questioning if the Dems believe he's withholding too much.
Well, he's already an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal crime, so he'd be in jail if he wasn't PotuS, and there are about a dozen other ongoing investigations into tax fraud, charity fraud, etc. etc. To the "party of law and order", that's fine.
Pretty much. My expectations are low as hell but I would like to be pleasantly surprised.
And that's the problem. Like many others, I'm hoping for some documented treachery that will leave no doubt as to Trump's true allegiance, even to his own supporters, though that seems unlikely.
Not necessarily, but like you say, we'll see. It is wishful thinking, because the opposite is...horrifying, tbh.
Yeah, but they could have just gotten a warrant for that. Though I guess Stone also lied to them, so that's fitting with other prosecutions.
Expect the worst, hope for the best, work with what you have and you can never be disappointed.
She did not say the news had anything to do with Joy Reid's show.
This is pretty my setup for this whole thing.
Hope, you guys, at least hope.
Yep. Optimistic pessimism should be the code of life to live by.
I'm just not anywhere near as involved with political threads on Era anymore because people just cannot help themselves but post shit-take tweets over and over. So many blank posts with a single tweet embed, usually from some yahoo who is simply speculating or just giving an opinion.
Something about a tweet embed makes too many posters think it has more weight than a text post from member here. It doesn't. Too many Era posters just endlessly embedding tweets, letting their political opinions being completely informed by random Twitter hot-takes.
We're in for a rough election.
He is a lawman. He indicts criminals when he has evidence of their crimes. I don't believe he has the leeway, much less the character, to say "we've got evidence but we're not going to prosecute as a 'political strategy'". I don't think that is or even can be a reason for the SCO.
In any case his report has to explain any decisions to prosecute or not prosecute, so I guess we'll know soon enough.
This is silly. Mueller's team was comprised of some of the best investigators and prosecutors in the country. A-listers, top to bottom. They would not collectively throw their reputations into the trash for one person or for the sake of any political party.
Wonder what it could be if we're all just waiting on Barr.
Yeah I'm not going to say it's impossible; I guess you can read the leak a number of ways too. Did Mueller "recommend no indictments" or simply "not recommend" anything?
Glimmers of hope lol
The special prosecutor in watergate did indict people. The "road map" was written solely for the benefit of congress to use during impeachment proceedings since the grand jury was unable to indict the president. You don't have a grand jury look at a topic for a year and a half just so they can punt on the indictment at the very end and have some other prosecutors re-present the entire case to a different grand jury.
I guess I'm reading it very narrowly, but honestly the lack of existing sealed indictments ready to go (which was seen as Mueller's trump card) is a bit disturbing.
Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, I find the whole thing so odd. Like, seriously, nothing? Just seems impossible.
Yeah that's the key difference here, we all understand the President himself would be off limits for indictment but his children should not be.
Read the NYtimes article about Mueller handing off a bunch of investigations to other prosecutors and you'll feel better. Trump and co are not out of legal jeopardy yet.
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