Of course Era is pessimistic. Era thinks there's only one candidate that can possibly beat Trump, the most unpopular president in modern history, and it's the ONE candidate that they endorse.
BREAKING: Robert Mueller has completed his Russia investigation (SEE STAFF POST)
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Of course Era is pessimistic. Era thinks there's only one candidate that can possibly beat Trump, the most unpopular president in modern history, and it's the ONE candidate that they endorse.
No indictments of Kushner or Don Jr... Pessimism is quite justified at this point.
Don is home free... Politically speaking, at least. Which is really all that matters
I mean, looking at what Trump has gotten away with for two years i don't think the defeatism is that irrational...
If the report has gold and Barr is a regular Republicans hack instead of a Super Saiyan Trumper, I have to imagine he will be gobsmacked by it.
I'm really annoyed that Trump was never served a subpoena. Freaking Clinton got served over less.
Is there any way to be sure that Barr didn't quietly have Mueller start shutting things down once Barr was installed? Surprised the report is just suddenly complete when it always seems like more is coming to light. I guess Mueller was always ahead of what we were finding out though...
Low expectations. Still dreaming of Trump family going to prison.
Low expectations. Still dreaming of Trump family going to prison.
This is 100% false. Trump and his organizations are under multiple criminal investigations by SDNY, and those cases pose a far greater threat to him.
The cynicism is pathetic. Let's wait for the report AND the results of the other ongoing investigations before we hang our heads in shame and give up hope.
This kind of sums up the current state of things. So much is already out there and people are gonna use these pages as final say on what Trump has 'actually' done.
1) Seems way too soon for it to be completed
2) Trump and his cronies were asking for it to be public a while back, if there was anything damning in it then they wouldn't be saying this
What possible reason do you have to conclude the dozen other investigations can't indict them?
The letter specifically says Mueller was never told no for anything.
Can you be insufferable somewhere else?
The adults are talking.
It's not defeatism if it's actually happening, is it?
Can't wait for the Trump 2020 takes. Oh wait, there were already some in this thread. Most people don't care about the report. They can judge Trump based on his history as President, and it's not good. His favorables might see a small peak for a couple of months and that's about it. By the time 2020 election comes around nobody will care about Trump still yelling about no collusion. People will be talking about his latest scandal, twitter rant, or locking Brown people in cages, banning trans folks from serving the country, or mocking dead veterans.
Also, investigations towards Trump are far from over. Who knows what will happen.
Also, investigations towards Trump are far from over. Who knows what will happen.
Oh ok. The whole thing is finally winding down and it seems theyre closing shop. Other sections may keep going with other investigations but this one seems to be done.
Anybody here old enough to remember the 9/11 report and how anticlimactic that was? Good times...
Anyway, despite my usual cynisim I am open minded as to how this all pans out. We don't know half the story of what's been going on in DC since 2016, all the cat and mouse games, backstabbing and espionage.
I do know bad guys usually get away with their shit. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, all those fuckers got away with their crimes, so why would Trump and co be any different? What gives me a little pause is the constant mantra of 'state charges', which is appealing. We'll see anyway, one way or another.
Anyway, despite my usual cynisim I am open minded as to how this all pans out. We don't know half the story of what's been going on in DC since 2016, all the cat and mouse games, backstabbing and espionage.
I do know bad guys usually get away with their shit. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, all those fuckers got away with their crimes, so why would Trump and co be any different? What gives me a little pause is the constant mantra of 'state charges', which is appealing. We'll see anyway, one way or another.
What's happening?
DOJ already said their position is you can't indict a sitting president. SDNY however can.
Whatever crime that could be, is clearly not related to Russian collusion... You know, the entire purpose of the formation of the special counsel.
Of course they'd say that, but they'll fight tooth and nail to keep it from being public.
Folks, just because the big indictments didn't come before the investigation was closed doesn't mean anything. Mueller's job was always to investigate, and it's pretty clear that the indictments he's served up until now have been a part of that. The big stuff was always going to come later, one way or another.
Mueller right now.
Do you really think he was doing the majority of the work?
People need to pay attention and stop repeating the same ignorant nonsense over and over.
But I WANNA DESPAIIIIIIIR
You know, as if we all dont have enough worry about this upon seeing that headline.
And they'll be talking about his win and where the Democrats went wrong in losing yet again.
For anyone looking to cling to ever fading hope of any outcome other than Trump being strengthened by the report, this is from a couple of weeks ago:
https://spectator.us/mueller-barr-battle-indict-trump/
Essentially says the report was complete, Mueller & Barr agree that Trump's children & Kushner should be indicted, but that Barr disagrees with Mueller that Trump himself should be.
https://spectator.us/mueller-barr-battle-indict-trump/
Essentially says the report was complete, Mueller & Barr agree that Trump's children & Kushner should be indicted, but that Barr disagrees with Mueller that Trump himself should be.
Maybe it's a sign that we're crossing back to the right timeline. What's next? A new Sega console?
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