Could be wrong sure. But this isnt like Marvel.If you wanna keep this tunnel going and be proven wrong once again be my guest.
That was Grizzly. It might be the reason he was killed N2, but Stuart thinks it's also because Grizzly scumread Sophia.
I agree, I pointed out the same before. As of now I just have to go over Sophia/Faddy interactions, because there was one discussion where she wanted something from him. But with how the votes fell - Sophia being at 3 votes D2 and D3, yet not taking off - there is a good chance she/LP is scum.Yup, I'm right now going on the assumption that it was because he scum read two of the scum team. If it was just scum reading Faddy, I feel scum might have left him alive as no one was really pushing faddy at the time. Plus Grizzly mentioned several times that Sophia was his top scum read.
I think there is merit in that line of thinking.
I can't quite put my feelings into words and it is mostly based on guts, but something feels off. gir is middle of the road, seemingly blending in, perfectly voting scum two times in the middle of wagons because "why not?" I'm just getting a strange feeling.I forget, would have to reread back.
Don't feel bad about gir though, if LP flipped town, I'd probably feel bad about them since they wanted to push for LP yesterday.
wasnt gir the one that had to be convinced to vote faddy or something? Which I think was weak, since stu had being goin on all day about faddy.I can't quite put my feelings into words and it is mostly based on guts, but something feels off. gir is middle of the road, seemingly blending in, perfectly voting scum two times in the middle of wagons because "why not?" I'm just getting a strange feeling.
Same here, at first I was confused why he'd assume a double kill, then I was confused why he'd assume it was used and failed.Huh, just went back and looked. No mention of it being considered the 'faction' kill. Normally with these types of powers, if it can't be used on the same night as the team kill, it would say so.
So yeah I can see why you might assume that then.
Cleared up now?Same here, at first I was confused why he'd assume a double kill, then I was confused why he'd assume it was used and failed.
Yea it was gir.
Well, I disagree with the thought that scum was likely to use it N1, but I see your assumption.
aightWell, I disagree with the thought that scum was likely to use it N1, but I see your assumption.
Did Zeke receive any town points? It felt very redundant to highlight this, especially when your vote on Faddy was pretty weak and possibly bussy as well.
should go ahead and get teh day over with.Unless LP can convince me otherwise, I'm thinking they are the best lynch today as they can seemingly give more info depending on their flip ie if town, we should have a serious look at gir.
Did Zeke receive any town points? It felt very redundant to highlight this, especially when your vote on Faddy was pretty weak and possibly bussy as well.
I shouldn't get any points for the hammer. I should get points for calling him out for pr fishing
*shrug* again playful lol
I think we should force some info out of low activity players first. There has to be at least one scum mingling in the shadows not contributing. So I'd appreciate an updated reads list from everyone before we "get over with it". If the likes of absolutbro melonrabbit Z-Beat malus continue to live an easy coasting life, they'll end up in lylo with few connections to read. Yes, melon is in that list. She's not big on giving input or helping moving the game at all.
Yes, I know the one you mean:Alex also had a weird post where he thought stu was town tunneling Faddy. Stu then brought up that if Alex is townreading him, why not vote faddy.
I stand by that stance on Stuart's push. I felt that it was coming from a more genuine place than Turmoil's request for votes on Nin, so I found Stuart to be the more convincing of the two.I still see Stuart's tunnel on Faddy to be coming from a town position. I can't say whether he's right or not, but given how overt he's been about it, I would be genuinely surprised to see him flip scum at this point. I just don't think the scum team would risk him going in so recklessly if he were.
I think you found a good lead with that post. I remember being surprised at the effort Dcpat put into the game. There were some huge posts D2 where he was putting himself out there.
I think we should force some info out of low activity players first. There has to be at least one scum mingling in the shadows not contributing. So I'd appreciate an updated reads list from everyone before we "get over with it". If the likes of absolutbro melonrabbit Z-Beat malus continue to live an easy coasting life, they'll end up in lylo with few connections to read. Yes, melon is in that list. She's not big on giving input or helping moving the game at all.
Who thinks Sophia/LP isn't scum?
Who could potential partners of Faddy and ET be? Why?
possibly.If we did that lol, would that be a record for lowest posts in a game? one today, one yesterday
For what it's worth I town read Gorlak the most at the moment. I like his engagement and it seems to come from an honest place. I have to watch out with my scum reads, because I'm easy influenced, so I am currently suspicious of ET. But I do want to have a closer look at Stuart. I've seen some weird posts from Coolest aswell.
Day 1 is so hard. I'm always like scum would make sure to hide on day 1, so I'd say Nin is solid to me, but then I think if you townread him over this now, you'd basically have to all game and I don't want that.
Sorry I couldn't complete my read list. Im also unsure about my vote and I have one hour left on my phone with friends over.
Horrible.
Apart from this I don't see a red flag concerning Giant Panda and I think there are other people to look after. I need to say that I don't think he contributed much either. His vote on Faddy today lacks more reasoning to hold any value for now.
I've cooled off a bit on Stuart after reading everything. I was annoyed by him yesterday, but it seems he is/was in a dark place. I don't feel like bothering him with that now and I hope (and it seems like) he feels a bit better now. He is still on my rader and I certainly do not townread him, but I can't justify it to myself to vote Stuart now when he seems so legit annoyed with some things + Positive about him is that he kept reads coming and kept questioning people. I'd want to look elsewhere for todays lynch.
My top two scum at the moment are Kalor and Alexem. Alexem more than Kalor, but
Alexem - Comment on Nin, but no stance. He does that multiple times day 1. Then the only other real thing he does on day 1 is call out Donna and Kalor to contibute more. I've already questioned him about this. Mainly because I thought the choices of Kalor and Donna where weird considering there were a lot more people to choose from and/or add to that list. Overall his posts are pretty empty to me. I think there are a lot of lazy and easy reads in there and that bothers me. Also his vote on Panda is lazy and weak since he said he isn't sure.
Kalor - He didn't really do anything day 1. I do not like his vote on Grizzy there, because it's also a lazy easy vote, without any commitment. For day 1 it isn't that bad, but adding his post #954 makes it suspicious to me. He is switching of Grizzly like he doesn't want to, but there isn't a good reason he was on there in the first place. Add to that he thought it was weird with his vote on Grizzy who wasn't there, but then switched to ET, who also wasn't there.
The thing that annoys me the most atm is his post #1744. Kalor normally isn't the high post person, but normally has a great clear idea of who he wants to lynch and not. This game is one of the most active I've been in and yet he has no clue.
Since Alexem lynch is not going to happen today, I'm happy with my vote on Kalor now
VOTE: Kalor
Stuart I've talked about. Panda, Sophia and Faddy I will read back a bit about and post what I think.
My top town are Grizzly and Gorlak.
I mean, I should keep my vote on Kalor, but I do believe his claim. Why would he lie? Is there anyway of saving him now? If he wanted to survive he'd be better off without the claim. Agree it should've come later.
After Kalor's Claim. He wants to keep his vote on Kalor but also believes his claim. This reads weird to me.
I trust nin less and less the longer he lives. I've said as much. IIRC, he wasn't around at EoD though, so his vote still being on me is NAI, imo.absolutbro what do you think of Nin who had his vote on you at the end of the last day phase?
So, these magical death bringing reads were basically wrong.SN - No one has came forward say anything about being in a chat again. That makes scum chat creator being more likely. Which means they killed Fanto after seeing his reads.
Fanto's top scum were Stu/Melon/Kalor.
Fanto's top town included Faddy/Nin/Turmoil
That might explain why Giant Panda is still alive. They tried to kill both bears (Grizzly and Panda) and only hit one thanks to our prescient doctor.Huh, just went back and looked. No mention of it being considered the 'faction' kill. Normally with these types of powers, if it can't be used on the same night as the team kill, it would say so.
So yeah I can see why you might assume that then.
Some of us haven't even posted once, and with no actual solid red check you want to end the day less than halfway through it. Yeah, that's normal town behaviour.
Seeing your 2nd post about me, you know now how I feel about Alexem. I certainly planned on going after Alexem today. I feel like D1 and D2 I've let myself steared a bit. So I wanted to have a vote down early this day phase.
Things feel not better for him since yesterday. Altought I'm flattered that I'm now suddenly in his townreads, I think he is the only one townreading me, people seem to null read me more. So Alexem townreading me as the only person is a bit suspicious.
VOTE: Alexem
I've felt good about Gir day 1, but it seems like he vanished a bit a day 2. Nin and Gorlak seem town to me. Gorlak more than Nin tho. So if we want to believe that there is scum on the Grizzly train, I'd go for Gir. Ranking town to scum between the 3: Gorlak, Nin, Gir.
Lol I actually forgot this question, because I went on to respond to Turmoil. So actually not the best opportunity. Sorry.
Upon yesterday I didn't really see the Faddy I know (which is town Faddy). People have mentioned this and Faddy was a bit annoyed by that. Last days I've recognized him a bit more. He created his little town core and went into it with you. Faddy does this. I like his vote on ET D1. It's a pretty strong vote either which he didn't move. I remember somebody (maybe it was even you?) saying that Faddy's vote and my vote on ET were the easiest vote so we shouldnt get to much, if any, towncred for it. I'm not going to judge for myself, but I think Faddy deserves some credit there.
You have your vote on Faddy. What do you think?
Im happy he joins the vote on Alexem. It's not unlogical he links us.
Stuart, just FYI. I've been following the thread on mobile and I keep seeing you say you suspect depending on a Faddy flip. You also did that with panda and it's seems you got it for me. Do you have anything else?
I mean I understand you want to look at certain players after a certain flip. But it's going a bit overboard now.
I'm sorry I've been absent guys. But I will be there the last 4/5 hours of EOD. So should be making up easily.
Because I wanted you to question yourself. I also have a town lead on Turmoil, but I noticed a few posts ago that he was against the Faddy lynch and I wondered how you'd take that.
I'll almost join Stuart in voting Faddy just to get him to stop namedropping me in regards to a Faddy flip.
I'm going to buy in to Stuarts demands and read back indept on Faddy and also Sophia so if nobody wants to join me on a lynch for you I'll see where I vote betweem them two. But I refuse to take part in a requested thunderdome of some sorts.
Lol Stuart, if you gonna steer Zeke to a certain direction, please post all my posts about Alexem. I've literally pointed towards my reads from the day before when I voted Alexem there.
I'm honestly annoyed at the moment. You ask me about Panda, I say something you don't like. Boom scumread DCPat when Panda flips scum, then you ask me about Faddy, I don't agree with you, boom scumread DCPat if Faddy flips scum. Now this half work of my post agains Alexem.
I'm sick of it and I've held myself in from reacting because I wanted to have the discussion after flips. You said nothing about me in regards to Panda after Panda is confirmed town. So untill we know the flip of Faddy I did not want to talk about it. BUT it's the exact reason I asked you about Turmoil. He also steered away from Faddy, but nothing on him about that.
Ever since the Panda thing I sense that you have it for me and i've reached my boiling point now.
On your last sentence. Yes that was what I was telling myself after the first time I saw it, after the seconde aswell and the many many times you've said it now. It's like a repeating record. Honestly, look at what Chugger and Zeke just said. " votes on Alexem from Turmoil and DCPat can be suspicious if Alexem flips town". Thats it. Perfectly understandable. But no need to keep coming back to it. Do you want me to go back and count how many times you've mentioned it? Including Panda and including calling my reasoning on Alexem weak without quoting everything I said?
It just adds all up and I've reached the limit of accepting it.
Over. And don't worry Stuart, I don't think people will forget. And I feel better for venting my feelings.
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So we shouldn't lynch Kalor and let him be night killed without the override being activated?
Anyways. I think we are in a pretty good spot with this 2 scum lynches and a no kill night.
At that point, I think it was obvious that he was going to use the override regardless.
Do we all feel good about CS being town now?I'm on mobile so it's hard to check now, but did Faddy throw shade at any players besides CS in a major way Day 1? That's the one Grizzly picked up on but if there's others, those players are more likely to be town. I'll take a look when I get home.
I swear to the ghost of Ghostface Killah, if you're wrong about this shit Stuart
Vote: Faddy
One idea that I've been toying with - and this is only speculation, I should stress - is that scum may have a role or vanilla cop and used them to investgate GP instead of killing them. GP would, after all, have been a safe bet for protection on D2 in the presence of a doctor, so they may have chosen to check him instead of killing him. If he's come back ordinary town, they may have decided he's not as high priority a target as a PR and left him for later. He is, after all, green checked - if they can lead him to think their way, they could get a bit of clout behind their arguments with his support.That might explain why Giant Panda is still alive. They tried to kill both bears (Grizzly and Panda) and only hit one thanks to our prescient doctor.
One idea that I've been toying with - and this is only speculation, I should stress - is that scum may have a role or vanilla cop and used them to investgate GP instead of killing them. GP would, after all, have been a safe bet for protection on D2 in the presence of a doctor, so they may have chosen to check him instead of killing him. If he's come back ordinary town, they may have decided he's not as high priority a target as a PR and left him for later. He is, after all, green checked - if they can lead him to think their way, they could get a bit of clout behind their arguments with his support.
Care to try and make a case on me? Maybe it'll gain traction? Or are you just gonna fade into the background making this slick remarks.I trust nin less and less the longer he lives. I've said as much. IIRC, he wasn't around at EoD though, so his vote still being on me is NAI, imo.
So, these magical death bringing reads were basically wrong.
And it's also possible no one has come forward with a chat because you are lying.
which I think you are.
Most of the ppl that havent posted once havent been contributing much in the overall game anyway. So would be no real loss info wise. It's not like you've been forthcoming with info.Some of us haven't even posted once, and with no actual solid red check you want to end the day less than halfway through it. Yeah, that's normal town behaviour.
Yes, I think Spot is town. I know he's used gambits as town before to try to flush out scum so, although it might have been disruptice at the time, I wouldn't call it out of character for him. I also think that if he was allied with scum, his team-mates would have tried to dissuade him from doing it. That's not to say that he can't be scum, of course, but he's low on my list of candidates right now.Do we all feel good about CS being town now?I'm on mobile so it's hard to check now, but did Faddy throw shade at any players besides CS in a major way Day 1? That's the one Grizzly picked up on but if there's others, those players are more likely to be town. I'll take a look when I get home.
My exact question
there's a rugby thread now where I can go to annoy CeeCee and Faddy
been very busy day for me, seeing all the mentions now. As said before, let's see this thing to fruitionAlso the only one we haven't heard from today is gir
Interested in hearing if you're still wanting to go full sail for LP. I have my vote on them as promised :)