If he's out in that shit alone, he better have good survival skills. Otherwise he just went out there to die.
Funny thing is, from what we know now at least, they could find him, he could just say "talk to my lawyer" and then head back out into the woods again if he wanted. I mean I'm sure they'll bring him in and question him, but he doesn't have to say anything.
I'd turn in any of my family members if they were at the 01/06 insurrection without even blinking. Let alone, murder. At least if they were dumb enough to video tape themselves inside the capital.I called the cops on my brother when one of his friends had a crisis of conscience and called me to tell me he was planning to murder my dad. I didn't hesitate for a fucking second, and I would do it again.
I don't go to the wall for family when murder is involved. There's not a single person on this planet I care about enough to override my sense of justice.
This guy is clearly involved in Gabby's disappearance and likely death, and anyone who's covering for him NOW, after all that's happened, has a severe moral failing.
Last time I'm responding because this is all hypothetical crap and no one knows exactly what they'd do when presented with such a situation. Hypothetically, I'd be inclined to believe whatever story my child concocted. I wouldn't exactly be some neutral, unbiased listener. Thus, I'd be predisposed to accept whatever defense the could come up with it unless there was ample proof to contradict them. In any case, I'd likely tell them to turn themselves into the police but if they didn't I wouldn't turn them in, I'd simply tell them to leave.
If they actually admitted to murdering a missing person and told me where the body was, I'd likely give them a few days head start before telling the family. After that, it's up to the police to apprehend them, I want no part in it nor would I answer my child's calls after that.
But again, it's all hypothetical and hopefully will only ever remain hypothetical. If you raised a murderer then you fucked up somewhere.
Don't see a scenario where the girl still lives, and where he isn't deeply involved in her death. So sure, anything between outright murder and just manslaughter. And even the scenarios where it was just an accident look way worse due to him not calling for help and not cooperating at all with the family.There are lots of scenarios where he didn't murder her. I am not defending him, or his family - he should have helped out and been answering questions. And maybe he did…but people need to chill and wait for answers from the authorities and stop fighting with each other.
It was the anonymous confessions thread and most of them were made up.Still not as bad as the teacher who admitted they failed a student's grades because the kid was Black. (or was that thread in the Old Place before Era? Remind me, veterans!)
This has taken a turn..I feel he went out there to commit suicide. Otherwise, why go out there at all? You're not making it without food, water, supplies and based off of his past experiences he knows this.
I think some people are favoring "suicide" here. Probably based on the police body cam where she was emotional (you know because most people are when they could be arrested but no, she's SUICIDAL). I just don't see it personally. If she killed herself, the body would likely be found, the area while remote does have a lot of traffic and common camping locations. His lawyer would also tell him not to run, he'd be working on a defense for him.Don't see a scenario where the girl still lives, and where he isn't deeply involved in her death. So sure, anything between outright murder and just manslaughter. And even the scenarios where it was just an accident look way worse due to him not calling for help and not cooperating at all with the family.
I didn't even think about that. Damn, hopefully they have some sort of plan.Funny thing is, from what we know now at least, they could find him, he could just say "talk to my lawyer" and then head back out into the woods again if he wanted. I mean I'm sure they'll bring him in and question him, but he doesn't have to say anything.
We don't have all the information, I mean there could be a criminal case in the works, but based on what we know and what the police are saying, Brian is still just missing.
Although there's no evidence of crime, and thus the cops can't arrest him or limit his movements in any way, I don't believe there was anything hindering them from simple police surveillance, right? Especially as he's the last known person of interest in a missing person's case. Can experts confirm that the police didn't actually need a warrant or anything for a stakeout? Because if so, it makes this disappearance all the more frustrating.
I would imagine that you'd have to have a legal reason to basically stalk a private citizen. If you think about it, that's probably a good thing because police certainly would abuse that ability to profile people of color.Although there's no evidence of crime, and thus the cops can't arrest him or limit his movements in any way, I don't believe there was anything hindering them from simple police surveillance, right? Especially as he's the last known person of interest in a missing person's case. Can experts confirm that the police didn't actually need a warrant or anything for a stakeout? Because if so, it makes this disappearance all the more frustrating.
LOL what? I've been in this thread since last night.Surprised you're showing your face here after your embarrassing performance in the last thread.
Although there's no evidence of crime, and thus the cops can't arrest him or limit his movements in any way, I don't believe there was anything hindering them from simple police surveillance, right? Especially as he's the last known person of interest in a missing person's case. Can experts confirm that the police didn't actually need a warrant or anything for a stakeout? Because if so, it makes this disappearance all the more frustrating.
Pretty much. As I said multiple times in the other thread there are countless missing people right now, the only reason this one is national news is she's a pretty white girl.I always think this kinda stuff is like theater for america. It's pretty gross.
They don't, they might need one if they were placing a tracker on his car. But simple eye ball surveillance would not require a warrant.
This isn't always true. It depends on the kind of surveillance.Police don't need a warrant to perform surveillance, they'd just need a warrant to arrest him or enter his house.
Pretty much. As I said multiple times in the other thread there are countless missing people right now, the only reason this one is national news is she's a pretty white girl.
This. The police pulled out all the stops to make sure Gabby was comfortable in that body camera footage. No way in hell would they have offered a Black woman Gatorade in the same situation.Pretty much. As I said multiple times in the other thread there are countless missing people right now, the only reason this one is national news is she's a pretty white girl.
I would imagine that you'd have to have a legal reason to basically stalk a private citizen. If you think about it, that's probably a good thing because police certainly would abuse that ability to profile people of color.
Police don't need a warrant to perform surveillance, they'd just need a warrant to arrest him or enter his house.
They sound like parents.
If you look back a few pages then you'd know I made a thread months ago on this topic and over half of the people in the thread agreed they would not turn in a family member. Hell, in about 14 states you can't even prosecute parents for harboring their children who are fugitives and more states that reduce liability if they do. Even the law recognizes that parents aren't expected to turn in their children.
I can take the dogpile, I'm just being honest. I'm not turning in any child I might have unless they are an active danger to the community like the unabomber. I may be disgusted with them, I may tell them I never want to see them again but I'm not calling the police.
Everyone in here having a passionate argument about if they would hypothetically turn in a family member for murder and getting sanctimonious over other people's answers...can y'all just stop? What you would do in this situation really has nothing to do with the subject at hand and really does not warrant the kind of intense mud slinging y'all are bringing. You sound like 12 year olds arguing over literally nothing. I promise you most people in here don't care what you would do one way or another and you do not need to to dramatically declare your moral standing.
That's a part of it. I mean let's be honest, it is. Fox News has been one of the best sources for this case and I'm laughing out loud if anybody tells me they'd be covering the story the same way if the missing woman was a young Black woman.Pretty much. As I said multiple times in the other thread there are countless missing people right now, the only reason this one is national news is she's a pretty white girl.
I'm just gonna redirect you to the last sentence of my post and keep it moving.Someone made a post so people are replying to it. That's kinda how the internet works.
It's kinda pathetic that you have an issue with people basically saying they would do the right thing and turn their ass in.
This isn't always true. It depends on the kind of surveillance.
law enforcement botched this badly
like really really bad
fucking insanely bad
should have had him under tight surveillance
Oh I agree, like I said a few posts back, if Brian was a person of Color, they would have found a way lol.Although I understand where you're coming from, in this matter it's obvious this guy is a major witness to a missing person case, and acting extremely suspicious, so it would have been easily justified.
This is what I'm assuming. I don't understand how this dude disappeared off the radar. Just have a cop or two in an unmarked car parked outside his last known location (was it confirmed he was staying at his parents, or are we just taking his parents word for that?)
There are Fourth Amendment limits to the scope of police surveillance. Whether the surveillance constitutes an unreasonable search depends on the kind of surveillance and how it was conducted.He's a person of interest in a national missing persons case. It's a pretty clear argument.
Yeah I'm not sure why they didn't have someone posted out near their house to see what his movements were like.
That would be some 5D chess strategy considering how utterly inept they've appeared since all of this began.Part of me hopes they do know where he is, llulling him into a false sense of security, and are doing this to see if he slips up and he can lead to her/her body.
If they actually admitted to murdering a missing person and told me where the body was, I'd likely give them a few days head start before telling the family. After that, it's up to the police to apprehend them, I want no part in it nor would I answer my child's calls after that.
But again, it's all hypothetical and hopefully will only ever remain hypothetical. If you raised a murderer then you fucked up somewhere.