50 bucks for a Tylenol during my back surgery. Btw I didn’t actually receive the Tylenol and since it was a major spinal surgery I’m not sure a Tylenol would actually get the job done...
That's rough, I'm sorry to hear that. It isn't right. As someone that has had a number of ambulance trips thanks to anxiety the past few years, I can't imagine having to worry about finances in each case and how that would spiral more than it already did. It's fallen back this year thankfully, and I hope the same for yourself and that your son's health issues placate as best they can. Genuine well-wishes for 2020.
I don't even think the powers that be understand the contradiction inherent in this either. A quote about the last rope under capitalism comes to mind.
The idea that America is the greatest country is flat out laughable.
Is this something they're actually planning on doing?
Then you see how much the US pays per head and thank Christ that it isn't us.
Corbyn showed some documents the tories have been trying to bury showing trade deal negotiations between the US and the UK. The NHS was a big part of it.
Yup they’ve been selling off the departments “we can do without” for a while now and the documents referred to above suggest an acceleration in this pretty soon
You're pretty much expected to ask for a smaller bill and they'll accommodate you, it's so stupid. Most people don't end up being charged the full amount, as for what happens if what's left can't be paid, I'm not sure, probably some goes to collections and some is forgiven.I don't understand how this works in practice. E.g. if a woman from a low-income or poverty background goes to the maternity ward to have her baby, does she get a 10.000 $ bill afterwards? How is she supposed to pay that, and what if she can't? Are there hospitals where you can have your baby for free or a smaller fee?
What if you're shot in the street and someone else calls? Do they take you to hospital and then thrust the bill in your face as soon as you're stable?
Primarily because half the country thinks the way healthcare works currently is fine or even good.
A woman in that position would presumably be on Medicaid, which would act like a normal insurance company and take on the bill.I don't understand how this works in practice. E.g. if a woman from a low-income or poverty background goes to the maternity ward to have her baby, does she get a 10.000 $ bill afterwards? How is she supposed to pay that, and what if she can't? Are there hospitals where you can have your baby for free or a smaller fee?
I mean, yeah? No one thinks it's free doctors and medical supplies pulled from the aether. The amount paid in taxes in the NHS are absolutely incomparable to the heinous prices and debts in the American health system. Even as an American, when I lived in Massachusetts, the big increase in taxes felt like a fucking steal for the social and healthcare benefits I got. While I lived there, I had a panic attack and got hospitalized. I would have owed thousands and thousands for a fucking panic attack if that same thing happened in Virginia where I live now.
wHaT if I LIkE mY CuRRenT InsURanCe
Depends on the state, too though... some of the states I've lived in have STUPID strict requirements for what makes you impoverished as a single person living alone.I had an ER visit earlier this year and I kept waiting for a big ass bill to show up. Thankfully, my job has really good insurance, but it really shouldn't depend on that.
A woman in that position would presumably be on Medicaid, which would act like a normal insurance company and take on the bill.
some hospitals will do the bare minimum to help get you stabilized and then refuse to do anymore because you have no way to pay.
That's fucked up because they put you into a collection agency if you can't pay back the hospital.
Most of us have never known anything different
My 13 year old son was born prematurely. The bill was over $200,000. 13 years ago. Things are worse now.
There are a lot of US posters on this supposedly left-wing forum who defend this monstrous system. I don't understand it. It's actually an indictment of how shit Americans are at caring about anyone but the well-off.
Yes that is exactly what happens. When I was in high school I got into a bad car wreck and was loaded into an ambulance before I could really understand what was going on.
Doctors arent really the ones who decide this kind of stuff, afaik it’s the hospital board members and admiinistrators that run hospitals like businesses
Spot on. This election is infuriating.That inhaler cost. O_O
Tories should get wiped out for this but give people the argument, NHS or Brexit, watch the UK burn. How thick and hateful can you be. The NHS is reason alone for voting remain in another EU referendum but people can't see past their hate. Bloody boiling, how much does it cost to cure that.
Damn.Recently fucked my ankle in a way that impressed the Doctor.
Clean broke through the joint itself, bones broken around it and 2 sets of ligaments torn.
- A&E Visit
- 4 X-Rays
- 1 MRI
- 1 General anaesthetic keyhole surgery
- Full foot surgery with 2 screws put in
- 2x nights in hospital
- Support/Compression Boot
- Numerous Doctors visits
- 40 doses of Clexane
- Upcoming surgery to take screws out
- Ongoing physiotherapy
No idea how much that would have been in the US but I am ever thankful for the NHS.
Heaven forbid there's a major problem and you need to be admitted for an extended period of time.
I saw an elderly woman trip and fall on some stairs (about 6, to a tiled floor) at a Burger King food court few years back. We called the ambulance immediately and the woman literally spent her last minutes on Earth moaning in pain, and begging us not to call an ambulance because she couldn't afford it. It got there about 10 minutes after she stopped breathing anyway and I knew deep down they were likely going to bill her survivors one way or another. I felt guilty for thinking that while they carted her off.A trip to an ER is $2531 and the total service is $3390 for 8 stitches on my right pinky finger
$1191 for a 10 second doctor to tell me not to get my finger wet.
It's cheaper to not have ACA to pay my bill.
I keep sayings this. It's about profiting people who're suffering. There shouldn't be a market for this.
Yes, but we're not complacent. We're captive.Primarily because half the country thinks the way healthcare works currently is fine or even good.
Then the other hold-up is your healthcare 90% of the time is tied to your job, so if you go off on a rioting adventure and miss a shift or two of work because you got arrested, you lose your job and consequently your insurance. Not to mention that if you get injured by a cop while rioting, that's gonna be expensive to get patched up.
Basically capitalism has made people complacent.