I bet he sleeps completely at ease. I have no doubt he's dehumanized her in his mind at this point. He's not doing this to a person, thus nothing is wrong with it. After all just check his animal comment.
This is so disturbing. They enslaved her and took her for millions. Disgusting...
Do we know when the court will make a decision? Today or another day?
Do we know when the court will make a decision? Today or another day?
Thank you linking that.Full transcript is available to read. It's heartbreaking.
Read Britney Spears’ Full Statement Against Conservatorship: ‘I Am Traumatized’
Britney Spears gave a 20-minute statement in court Wednesday against her conservatorship. Read it here.variety.com
Holy shit.
Oh my... God... If there is literally any professional body regulating lawyers in the state of California.. How.. HOW... HOWWWWW on earth did this happen?! And now that this is coming to light, how could it continue at all.
Spears' situation is truly horrific. It's straight up state-sanctioned abuse, financial exploitation and enslavement of a human being. As I said in the other thread, it would seem the judge at the very least is very incompetent or at worst corrupt to have had access to all the evidence and statements which the NYT recently exposed to then just apparently ignore it all when she ruled last summer that her father could still stay on the conservatorship. It's also absolutely outrageous her father gets to handpick her counsel, it's completely 100% rigged and as that tweet from Southpaw said, a bar examination at the very least needs to be done at some level.
edit: Just saw that last Tweet from Southpaw showing her "lawyer" stealing 10K a week from her, bar investigation is not enough, people need to go to jail over this.
edit: Just saw that last Tweet from Southpaw showing her "lawyer" stealing 10K a week from her, bar investigation is not enough, people need to go to jail over this.
Wow, the court should order him to repay her back. $40k a month. That's millions since 2008. No wonder he didn't mention anything about terminating the conservatoship. He's still getting fucking paid.
Holyshit!
Reading this is horrific. Did she need help? Yup but this seems to be pure hell and clearly not what she needed. I mean shit she doesn't even have control of her own body. Also that lawyer needs to be disbarred asap and possibly in prison along with those in control of the conservatorship. To never do his job and then when told to he says nope I won't. Someone else can. I have no doubt he was being paid off to keep her in it.
Reading this is horrific. Did she need help? Yup but this seems to be pure hell and clearly not what she needed. I mean shit she doesn't even have control of her own body. Also that lawyer needs to be disbarred asap and possibly in prison along with those in control of the conservatorship. To never do his job and then when told to he says nope I won't. Someone else can. I have no doubt he was being paid off to keep her in it.
Frankly, if she does not win this time around, people will (hopefully) take to the streets to demand justice reform. Human right violations on every single possible level....
Holy fuck. Just heard the audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVrhKBhMrEI&t=1296s Shes legit living a real life black mirror episode. Goddaaaaamn. Very disturbing to hear that
He'd just pay for his protection out of her pocket, but I have to admit this hypothetical situation would be the first time I root for the crazy-ass fans to make his life even a fraction as miserable as her life sounds under this conservatorship.
You'd think... if they really need to drug her and send her to mental health institutions so much, maybe she doesn't need to be preforming and should focus on recovery. It's so obvious money is the only thing her dad and whoever is on his payroll cares about, over her wellbeing.
Don't think I can handle the audio tbh, this is too much.
"Family"
"Family"
Because her sister has been stealing her money like everyone else involved. This is a story from last summer around the time of the previous ruling regarding how she was trying to take control of the money in the trust fund intended for Britney's children (and apparently succeeded):
Britney Spears' sister Jamie Lynn seeks control of singer's finances
Jamie Lynn Spears requests control of the money stored in a trust fund for Britney's children.
www.bbc.com
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Holy shit that is gross.Because her sister has been stealing her money like everyone else involved. This is a story from last summer around the time of the previous ruling into how she was trying to take control of the money in the trust fund intended for Britney's children (and apparently succeeded):
Britney Spears' sister Jamie Lynn seeks control of singer's finances
Jamie Lynn Spears requests control of the money stored in a trust fund for Britney's children.
Her own family betrayed her. And we as a society abandoned her to her fate.
He was, he's been making 40 grand a month to represent her in the conservatorship case. So it was in his best interest to keep it going for as long as he could.
The aggravating bit is that she was paying his fees. The only reason he's even suggesting petitioning to end the conservatorship or be replaced by a lawyer of Britney's choice is because in the past year the conservatorship became a very public issue. The Free Britney movement ballooned and the NYT documentary only made it bigger. It's starting to look real bad for him to admit he's been doing a terrible job at representing his actual client.
ITT, a thread full of people who don't know what they're talking about with respect to conservatorships. That attorney very likely isn't making $10k a week every week. He's making "not more" than 10k per week. This means he isn't taking more than $10k at a time. Twitter user Southpaw wouldn't know what his fees are unless he had that referenced order and an estate accounting. I'm not saying that he's not fleecing her, and its a bit shady if he does not have his own order, but these fees should be ultimately reviewed and approved by the court. Also (assuming he does not have some sort of crazy ass flat fee $10k per week order) the lawyer would very likely make way more money litigating his client's release. It would be interesting to hear why the lawyer would rather substitute out than file the petition.
And the apparent pressure to perform? Lack of telling her about her options to terminate? Potential forced IUD/birth control?
How much understanding does one need over an arrangement like that?
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You sound like you are that lawyer. Just let her have her money back you bilked her for a lot
If you're a lawyer, you could just provide further details on how these things work without hopping on a high horse.
In any case, the supposed fees she's having to pay have become the least concerning bit about this conservatorship as of today.
Even if she does, she may very well have been driven to them or had them exacerbated by this relentless and totally cruel persecution.
Aside from the drive by arrogant tone you utilize right off the bat, that is a pretty generous take regarding her lawyer's obvious advantage in this situation not to mention hand waving of the totality of all the other collective abuses going on. Are you a lawyer yourself who has been in a situation similar to this? Also lol at the 'court should review the fees,' they haven't been doing their job in reviewing anything objectively for her in the last 13 years of this facade, a bit late for that. Given how grossly irresponsible the court system in CA has been in regards to her situation, Spears should sue the state for letting her be thrown to the wolves if she is ever able to.
Yeah. A bit.
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Thank you for the link, I did not know about this. And she succeeded? What the hell?Because her sister has been stealing her money like everyone else involved. This is a story from last summer around the time of the previous ruling into how she was trying to take control of the money in the trust fund intended for Britney's children (and apparently succeeded):
Britney Spears' sister Jamie Lynn seeks control of singer's finances
Jamie Lynn Spears requests control of the money stored in a trust fund for Britney's children.
I'll never understand how any of this is legal. Poor Britney :(
A lot of this first started when Adnan Ghalib a paparazzo turned her then boyfriend and her former manager Sam Lufti basically conspired to take control of her affairs. She was basically kept drugged the entire time she was around him. Which led to her very public breakdown where she shaved her head. She eventually got a restraining order against them but at that point her conservatorship was already in effect. She's been extremely grossly manipulated for over a decade with everyone vying to get a piece of her wealth.
Yep, and according to this article she conspired with help from, who else? Their dad, of course:
Britney Spears’s Sister Jamie Lynn Was Reportedly Secretly Named Trustee of Her Fortune
Jamie Lynn is now asking the court to create “blocked accounts” that will hold all of the pop star’s assets.
Oh her father is absolutely coming off as the Joe Jackson type.
And I find it extremely unlikely that nobody told her about her termination options. Even if her attorney somehow didn't, she's had all sorts of people with conflicting interests around her for years. Somebody around her had to have at least googled that time and let her know over the course of over ten years. People under a conservatorship also (should) have annual or biannual reports from a disinterested investigator, so it would be interesting to know what she told the investigator or what the investigator asked her. Unfortunately for the public discourse, but fortunately for her privacy, these are confidential and only those involved in the case would have any idea.
The amount of misinformation is so extensive though, it's really really hard to wade through it all and figure out where to start, so it's frustrating. It's also a very unique situation in an already highly specialized legal field, so even some of lawyers I've seen on TV today don't appear to actually have a feel for what they're talking about. I'm tempted to write about it (specifically for other lawyers), but to do a good job I'd have to do a very deep dig, which I just don't have the time and energy to do right now. Yes there are questions after today, but as an outside observer we really have no idea what's going on. Random Twitter users picking up and incorrectly interpreting documents out of context isn't helping anybody though.
I was wondering what this was when I walked by the courthouse this morning. All these news trucks and reporters setup outside.
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the email at the bottom of that photo literally says "please pay $10,000"
Yeah, the lawyer is the one who needs your defense in this situation.
It says "please pay $10,000 and carry the balance over to next week." If you're paying a $25,000 bill and you make payment of no more than $10,000 per week, then on week 1 you'll pay $10,000, on week 2 you'll pay $10,000, and on week 3 you'll pay $5,000. We have no idea what the actual bill was. Could be a million dollars, could be $11,000, we don't know how much the lawyer was paid without an accounting.
I was today years old when I learned what a conservatorship was. What the actual fuck. How is this a thing?!
One of the e-mails says "I missed the August 22, 2008 order which does provide for the $10,000 weekly payments.".
Have fun spinning that one.
You'd be rich in a completely legitimate way because one week you'd charge $10,000 and then the next you'd either charge $5,000 or maybe another $10,000 but surely you wouldn't be allowed by the court without their express approval and review to charge $10,000 every single week even though the court in this situation didn't seem to care anyways. Only ignorant, overreacting lay people who don't understand the fine, subtle nuances of lawyer e-mails and memos asking for a certain amount of money on a weekly basis would assume something nefarious like that!
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she was forcibly implanted with an IUD and you're coming to the defense of her lawyer. you've got a finite amount of energy to expend on this earth, and this is how you choose to use it.
ok
AFAIK she may have wanted the IUD when she got it but if she doesn't want it now it's still an unwanted IUD.
Unwanted IUD = no children.
Children she could leave an estate to.
That threatens her existing family who lives off her.
Unwanted IUD = no children.
Children she could leave an estate to.
That threatens her existing family who lives off her.
