The family thing feels like a cover. He knows his shady financial stuff is about to be heavily scrutinized.
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Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!
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Alternative title: Scheer to embrace Trumpism: https://globalnews.ca/news/4047530/andrew-scheer-jerusalem-israel-capital/
A buddy of mine calls Scheer a "replacement-level leader" and it's just the perfect descriptor of him.
I think you're right. Notwithstanding everything, Brown's still in a pretty good spot to win again. He wouldn't be dropping out unless he was really concerned about what increased scrutiny of his financial dealings would bring.
On the one hand, I don't want to see a party with a possible shot at government embrace anything to do with Trump. On the other hand, the CPC are going to be fighting against the spectre of Trump going into the next election, regardless of what happens. It would kind of make sense for them to embrace it, rather than tiptoe around it and hope no one makes the connection.
The Fed-provincial negotiations over any Pharmacare program are going to be interesting.
The provinces will want to maintain control over health but they probably won't have the fiscal capacity to add to health coverage until the Baby Boomers die off.
UBC economics professor Kevin Milligan's had a couple threads about what the provinces are facing thanks to the Baby Boomers. New Brunswick looks doomed, B.C. is in a much better situation but it's probably going to take some significant tax increases.
Middle of the B.C. thread:
We really need taxes that specifically target boomers like capping the personal residence exemption and adding a tax/surtax to income from pension/RRSP/RRIF above a modest amount. They chose not to have enough kids and to keep their own taxes ultra low instead of saving for the obvious huge bump in healthcare costs their generation was going to cause, it's not fair for successive generations to have to almost entirely bear the tax burden for that.
The provinces will want to maintain control over health but they probably won't have the fiscal capacity to add to health coverage until the Baby Boomers die off.
UBC economics professor Kevin Milligan's had a couple threads about what the provinces are facing thanks to the Baby Boomers. New Brunswick looks doomed, B.C. is in a much better situation but it's probably going to take some significant tax increases.
Middle of the B.C. thread:
And New Brunswick:
We really need taxes that specifically target boomers like capping the personal residence exemption and adding a tax/surtax to income from pension/RRSP/RRIF above a modest amount. They chose not to have enough kids and to keep their own taxes ultra low instead of saving for the obvious huge bump in healthcare costs their generation was going to cause, it's not fair for successive generations to have to almost entirely bear the tax burden for that.
PBO put out their pharmacare costing late last year -- they estimate it'll cost around $20 billion(PDF warning).
The timing is interesting for all sorts of reasons -- not only is the provincial election a few months off, the budget is tomorrow, and this is going to overshadow anything that comes out of it, I imagine. For that matter, it'll overshadow next year's budget too, if the Liberal promise in 2019 is going to be national pharmacare (which was probably going to be an NDP promise too, but the Liberals doing it makes it seem much more imminent).
The timing is interesting for all sorts of reasons -- not only is the provincial election a few months off, the budget is tomorrow, and this is going to overshadow anything that comes out of it, I imagine. For that matter, it'll overshadow next year's budget too, if the Liberal promise in 2019 is going to be national pharmacare (which was probably going to be an NDP promise too, but the Liberals doing it makes it seem much more imminent).
I'm not going to repost the whole thing, but I made a thread about the banks financing the arms industry. The Bank of Montréal and the Toronto-Dominion are both on there.
I'd rather have some limited form of Basic Income (ie. like Ontario's pilot project) than a pharmacare plan... but the pharmacare plan is probably an easier sell.
lol oh my god what a shit show.
And it's stupid hilarious that he's the BEST candidate. Might as well have O'Leary come back and run for it.
And it's stupid hilarious that he's the BEST candidate. Might as well have O'Leary come back and run for it.
what the hell is going on today? Scheer is showing just how incompetent he is, Ontario Libs losing a sitting minister, banks funding school shootings in a round about way, and Brown is out again.... for now....
Good lord. Why couldnt things have been this exciting when I was doing my degree.... Stupid, stable, boring, terrible Harper... >:(
Good lord. Why couldnt things have been this exciting when I was doing my degree.... Stupid, stable, boring, terrible Harper... >:(
You aren't getting an Ontario-style basic income program for anything close to $20 billion/year.
It's 2010 data and Ontario's treating couples differently than individuals means there's a bit of a difference (but at least the phase-out rates are similar), but a $15,000 federal basic income with 50% phase-out rate would have cost $98 billion. For a basic income of that level you basically have to find a way to increase federal revenues by one-third; adding 15 points to the GST would just about do it.
Oh yeah, Political Science students are having a field day with this compared to how boring things usually are.
Too bad it's too late for new leadership candidates or else he could've grown a mustache and ran again.
If the next PC leader/Premier of Ontario could be a low-level drug dealer (Doug dealer? I'll work on it.), anything is possible!
Exactly why it's harder of a political sell. All of this money they're putting into other programs could've been allocated towards this end goal...
Jagmeet Singh policies poached by the Federal Liberals checklist:
* Increase working income tax benefit - DONE
* Create National Pharmacare system - IN PROGRESS
* Decriminalize all drugs - TODO?
For a guy without a seat in the house of parliament he sure is getting a lot done simply by adopting policy positions.
* Increase working income tax benefit - DONE
* Create National Pharmacare system - IN PROGRESS
* Decriminalize all drugs - TODO?
For a guy without a seat in the house of parliament he sure is getting a lot done simply by adopting policy positions.
Please don't ever say that. Ever.
He should start really going for the hard left/progressive/labour focused stuff, see what the Libs pick up. Even without an NDP government, those kinds of policies could be quite good even if Smilin' Justin is the guy implementing them
I'd love to be this optimistic. But I think we all know deep inside our hearts it's going to happen. We just need to prepare ourselves because Ontario is going to become the laughing stock of the entire country, no... entire continent... scratch that, entire world in 4 months.
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I don't see him winning the party nomination, let alone winning an entire provincial election. Hopefully he'll scurry away when he loses to challenge Tory and lose there too when that election comes up. Optimistic, maybe. But it helps me stay sane
Yeah sure there's plenty of value in the NDP in shifting the Overton Window and the Liberals resultantly implementing a bunch of good progressive policies. This is why Pearson's term yielded so much great stuff.
The problem is that you actually have to ensure that the Liberals implement their promises. The best way to do this is to have a minority, NDP supported government, like Pearson did.
Didn't we just have a big exercise in developing policy by consulting with experts and the Liberals just rejected the experts' findings and it was a huge waste of everyone's time? Is this legit or pure politics? Are the Liberals going to pull the football away at the last minute again?
Don Davies previously put forward a private members bill calling for negotiations with the provinces on how to implement universal pharmacare and the Liberals and Conservatives voted it down, in part because the parliamentary health committee hadn't finished their report. lmao
This, I feel, is entirely dependent on the party actually developing good ideas. The NDP wasted a lot of time with Mulcair, so this is a good opportunity for the NDP to finally find their feet again.
And this may be blasphemous, but Layton didn't develop a lot of good policies either. Very good at selling the party to the public though.
(I was a NDP supporter for years, but switched over to the Greens later on.)
This reminds me, I once had a conversation with a "hardcore NDP supporter" who couldn't name a single policy Jack Layton proposed. I suspect that's even more true for Mulcair.
The NDP needs to pick a few super left-wing stances and just go hog wild.
The NDP needs to pick a few super left-wing stances and just go hog wild.
I think instead of running in the next mayoral race Ford might just decide to run for the Ontario PC nomination in Etobicoke North. He will have a better chance of winning that riding in June if he is nominated as the PC candidate for that riding then running for mayor again and wasting a bunch of money trying to beat Tory.
I can't even begin with this article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-trade-white-house-1.4552362
In short, Trump contradicts himself with a document he himself signed on Canada's supposed trade deficit...
In short, Trump contradicts himself with a document he himself signed on Canada's supposed trade deficit...
It's classic Trump. We've known for a while now (especially post-Fire and Fury and Axios revelations of his news habits) that he has no real ideology besides "not Obama." His own lawyers don't trust that he won't perjure himself when interviewed; he just says and does whatever in the moment.
If he isn't elected leader of the OPC there's no way in hell he'll run as an MPP. He's not interested in being in politics unless he's the one in charge or close to it. It's why he wasn't running for his own seat in the last Toronto election before his brother dropped out. His nephew was running for that seat and then he got bumped down to a school board trustee because of Rob getting sick and Doug stepping up to try to be Mayor.
There's an opportunity cost involved this time. Why waste a ton of money and get destroyed this time in the mayoral race when he can run and attempt to win a somewhat safe liberal seat in the GTA. Even though he won't have much influence Ford at least has a better chance of winning Etobicoke North then running for mayor again and getting crushed most likely. He has connections to Etobicoke which will likely boost him in Etobicoke North if he decided to run in that riding in the upcoming provincial election.
You actually think he'll want to be an MPP behind another OPC leader that will most likely become Premier of Ontario with no chance of him becoming Premier for at least a decade if at all? I don't see that happening.
Your assuming he wants to be in politics instead of in power. Back bench mps, and even provincial ministers arent getting the face time Ford would need to prop up his populist shitshow
He's never run for anything less than the biggest seat available, so yes?
He ran for city council once but I bet that's only because Rob asked him to so if Rob lost the mayoral race he could step down and Rob could win it again in a bye-election.
Happy budget day, everyone! I normally don't pay much attention, personally, but I had class this morning with a prof who's also a huge wonk, and her enthusiasm was infectious.
Pharmacare is an idea that the NDP -- and lots of others -- have been pushing for years, so Singh doesn't get credit for that.
The WITB expansion was in the Fall Economic Statement, which means that it passed through cabinet approvals months before Singh had even put out a policy paper.
As the story you links to says, the Liberal convention resolution on drug decriminalization is there because Nate Erskine-Smith has been working on it for more than a year, which means, if anything, that Singh took the idea from him.
Of course, under Mulcair the NDP barely even pretended to have policy positions, so I guess taking credit for what the government is doing is one step further than they went before... ;)
...that seems reasonable? Why rush into doing something while they're halfway through studying the issue?
Pharmacare is an idea that the NDP -- and lots of others -- have been pushing for years, so Singh doesn't get credit for that.
The WITB expansion was in the Fall Economic Statement, which means that it passed through cabinet approvals months before Singh had even put out a policy paper.
As the story you links to says, the Liberal convention resolution on drug decriminalization is there because Nate Erskine-Smith has been working on it for more than a year, which means, if anything, that Singh took the idea from him.
Of course, under Mulcair the NDP barely even pretended to have policy positions, so I guess taking credit for what the government is doing is one step further than they went before... ;)
...that seems reasonable? Why rush into doing something while they're halfway through studying the issue?
WITB expansion was one of Singh's key policies in the leadership contest, and he proposed it in early June. The policy was created by Stephen Harper though, so fair to say that there's a consensus from everyone that it's a good idea.
You are correct that pharmacare has been raised as a good idea since Medicare was first implemented. It was part of the NDP party platform with Layton and Mulcair (though as you note, under Mulcair communication of his platform was so bad I doubt any Canadians actually knew this). The relevant point about pharmacare now though is that it is clear from the NDP's policy convention that it's very likely going to be a key plank of what the NDP offers to Canadians in 2019. Up until, um today probably, the Liberals in contrast did not support universal pharmacare, instead focusing on the idea of buying drugs in bulk to lower costs. In context of the upcoming 2019 election, I think it's very likely that the government's decision to suddenly pivot toward pharmacare is driven by a desire to eliminate a policy the NDP can use to differentiate themselves.
Similarly on drug decriminalization it is likely that it will be a key plank in the 2019 NDP platform, and due to that the Liberal convention item will get a much greater look. If the NDP were not ahead in adopting this it's possible that the item would be ignored and perhaps not even come up for debate. Now however it's another clear opportunity for the Liberals to eliminate a differentiator.
It is reasonable. It is ironic though that the Liberal government is now basically doing exactly what Davies' proposal would have done, which is to undercut the work of the parliamentary health committee.
There's really not a lot of spending room so I wouldn't expect much and if there are any big promises I would suspect they'll be pushed far into the future.
Edit: If you're as big of a poli nerd as me you can join me in watching and chat live on the discord. (I'll probably be in a meeting for a fair bit of it though)
Edit: If you're as big of a poli nerd as me you can join me in watching and chat live on the discord. (I'll probably be in a meeting for a fair bit of it though)
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Honestly I still think dental care could be a plank. It's the biggest gap in health care and expensive for people who aren't lucky to be covered by insurance - particularly for seniors.
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