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Cher at 29 was Anthony Kiedis's babysitter when he was 13
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Yeah this has been known for a long time. And also the part of the dad making Anthony lose his virginity at 12 is true as well, and effed up. He really traumatized Kiedis when he was a kid, and Anthony still has always cared for him, which is kinda sad and scary. It's wrong and disgusting that nothing was done at the time. Im sure the experiences Anthony had to deal with with drugs rape and dad making you lose your virginity all at age 10-13 also affected the way the Peppers acted during their early years towards female people.
Friends has a throwaway joke about Joey sleeping his way through seventh grade, and we're supposed to laugh at Joey for it.
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There are articles around from bigger named sources, but this was the quickest to find.
Jesus... This isn't okay. If the genders were swapped, I'm sure the folks having the nonchalant responses would probably be up in arms about this. This is really really sad to hear. His dad is a fucking monster, and Cher is just... ugh...
I believe this is a mistranslation that's ended up going viral multiple times. People combine two different stories together.
I believe the autobiography just says his babysitter was Cher and he used to sleep in her bed, but in an interview about the book that was in Italian, "sleep" was misinterpreted to "had sex with".
He did however have "sexual relations" with his Dad's girlfriend, arranged by his dad.
I believe the autobiography just says his babysitter was Cher and he used to sleep in her bed, but in an interview about the book that was in Italian, "sleep" was misinterpreted to "had sex with".
He did however have "sexual relations" with his Dad's girlfriend, arranged by his dad.
His seeing her naked when she was getting changed is out in the open, as is them sharing a bed. This rape bit isn't because he's never said she did anything of the sort.
Looks like in that video the father calls his girlfriend Kimberly, who slept with his son, whilst that isn't Chers real name. Still obviously unpleasant either way but sounds like it could be two different people.
Probably the word pedo would be tossed around. Either way, it's rape.
Had not heard of this prior. Seems quite a few people recommend his biography, I'll have to pick it up.
Nah, you just feel weird and when you learn about sex and what it means it just makes you feel disgusted.
Somehow I don't think you'd be this wishy-washy if it had been a 29 year old man and a 13 year old girl, since that is basically Roy Moore territory.
Yeah you're right. It definitely is rape regardless of consent. Been thinking about it since I posted.
Had a friend that did this when he was 14, it sent him into a world of pain. You would not, when I was 16 I wanted to fuck so bad. I had sex when I was 18 and couldn't do it, there's some fragility there you just don't know until the situation comes up or after the fact. Really unfortunate affairs.
Yikes, this could get ugly if it turns out it wasn't her after all.
This is conflating two different stories or a mistranslation, it wasn't said Kiedis had sex with Cher. They slept in the same bed but nothing beyond that, she thought he was asleep and changed into a nightgown and he basically peeped on her changing.
The woman he had sex with was his father's 18 year old girlfriend. Which everything involving his father is fucked in and of itself.
The woman he had sex with was his father's 18 year old girlfriend. Which everything involving his father is fucked in and of itself.
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Age of consent is 14 where I live, I have a friend that had sex with a 23 year old woman when he was 14 and this might be not the case for many, but he loved it, back then and he still says to this day he is glad it happened cause it made him more confident. I'm not defending Cher or whoever would do such a thing, but there is the possibility it wasn't a traumatizing event. I mean that guy at least doesn't make it sound like it was for him, he said he was curious and that they had sex he said nothing about her forcing him or raping him.
13 is pretty much the age everyone i grew up with lost there virginity... But it was to people there own age group
This is not entirely accurate. First, a woman having sex with a minor is still committing statutory rape. And while some jurisdictions require penetration for it to be rape, most are defined as a sexual act involving penetration, not requiring the agressor to penetrate. Some jurisdictions do specify male penetration, and some even specify penile penetration. The difference between rape and sexual assault is wildly variable from state to state.
Oh look everybody jumping and yelling out at the misfortune
As other poster has posted, nowhere has this story come to fruition
Its taking 2 stories and getting mashed up
You have Cher BABYSITTING, young boy peeking and seeing a naked Cher
Then you have the dad, who had his young GF fuck his own son, which I don't think would be statutory rape (I think with it being only a 5 year gap of 13 and 18 year old back then)
So some interpret Cher and GF and you get this mess
I mean that's one story that's being held back and never inklings of it whispered and now all of a sudden it comes out of nowhere?
Let's get the facts first before people start getting Pitchforks out like this real news
As other poster has posted, nowhere has this story come to fruition
Its taking 2 stories and getting mashed up
You have Cher BABYSITTING, young boy peeking and seeing a naked Cher
Then you have the dad, who had his young GF fuck his own son, which I don't think would be statutory rape (I think with it being only a 5 year gap of 13 and 18 year old back then)
So some interpret Cher and GF and you get this mess
I mean that's one story that's being held back and never inklings of it whispered and now all of a sudden it comes out of nowhere?
Let's get the facts first before people start getting Pitchforks out like this real news
Huh. Interesting how something so serious can vary so much between states
In the UK rape can only be committed by a male, as odd as that may seem
One time he told the story he said they almost had sex. Another time says he had sex. In the book Scar Tissue, he says they slept next to each other. He's bringing the story up in the context to brag mostly, and moves right into losing his virginity at 12, picking his school he would attend based on hot girls. That's the context he puts this story in
Not that odd. It's also true for about fifty to sixty percent of the states. And twenty years ago it was true of more. There's been a very slow, very quiet movement to degender rape that's still going on. The FBI still focuses entirely on penetration, but includes any sort of penetration and any gender mix of perpetrator and victim. The laws regarding rape simply haven't kept up with modern ideas of consensuality.
If you read the interview
The question before and after, like it makes no sense
Hey I see your going out with this lady (sex life prior)
Yeah, she's something great, but for others no comment
Oh like that Cher thing you've spoken about
Yeah, I watched her naked and then she raped me
Cool, how are you feeling now your turning 50...
Like WTF?
The dude said Cher raped him and your next question is how's it feel to be old...
Like come on.
Unless there's audio or video proof of him saying it, that interviewer added the other story as old wives tale and mashed it together
Also this is 2012, so it's still recent, it's not like an interview done in like 1998, 20 years prior
No one batted an eye and no one said anything to this?
I'm not taking it lightly or drowning out what happened to the dude
There has to be a due diligence at least
I mean this can become rumor mill, gossip trash that can be flamed up do to misinterpretation
Like I'm no Cher Stan or RHCP fan, but can we get the facts
I'll wait till either its confirmed to get riled up and posting fuck yous to Cher and being heated at her
I mean the dad can be vilified for his actions and what he made his son go through cause those are laid out
The question before and after, like it makes no sense
Hey I see your going out with this lady (sex life prior)
Yeah, she's something great, but for others no comment
Oh like that Cher thing you've spoken about
Yeah, I watched her naked and then she raped me
Cool, how are you feeling now your turning 50...
Like WTF?
The dude said Cher raped him and your next question is how's it feel to be old...
Like come on.
Unless there's audio or video proof of him saying it, that interviewer added the other story as old wives tale and mashed it together
Also this is 2012, so it's still recent, it's not like an interview done in like 1998, 20 years prior
No one batted an eye and no one said anything to this?
I'm not taking it lightly or drowning out what happened to the dude
There has to be a due diligence at least
I mean this can become rumor mill, gossip trash that can be flamed up do to misinterpretation
Like I'm no Cher Stan or RHCP fan, but can we get the facts
I'll wait till either its confirmed to get riled up and posting fuck yous to Cher and being heated at her
I mean the dad can be vilified for his actions and what he made his son go through cause those are laid out
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What are you talking about? What's complex about an adult having sex with someone that can't consent?
Maybe the mods want to change the thread title and OP, given that this is two seperate stories being mixed up, and apparently Cher did not rape Anthony Kiedis?
There's a book he wrote called Scar Tissue. In the book he describes that Cher was his babysitter. She would sleep nude and one night he saw her taking her robe off. Cher was one of the few mother figures he had in his life.
Although, Kiedis had sex with his dad's 18 year GF when he was 12 because his dad wanted him to be the first kid to get laid
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