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Collider/THR: Obi-Wan Series on Hold Due to Reworking Scripts
- Thread starter ryan299
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Clone wars season comes out in a month. TLJ referenced them. They don't deserve reverence.
It's the classic saying of "What have you done for me lately?"
RoS was just that bad.
While I would agree, they're not really the same situations with the most recent one not making since and we don't even know if it's true.
Tbh I don't really care about this show. what kind of interesting shit is there to tell that wasn't shown already in the prequels, next thing you know is that they will make a Vader tv show about him killing people as fetch quests by the emperor.
Either she is flat out lying (possible) or she liked the scripts but someone higher than her, Iger probably, didn't like them and ordered full rewrites.
Kathleen Kennedy has the final say on The Mandalorian too, I love how "Kathleen Kennedy bad EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO SW STUFF I LIKE WHICH I'M SURE SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH"" is always the narrative.
as much as i'd like to see an Obi Wan series with Ewan it's - commercially - probably the worst way to follow up the success of mandolorian.
you already have your wild west space opera. but another ... WITH OBI WAN. yeah, i don't really see where that goes right now
you already have your wild west space opera. but another ... WITH OBI WAN. yeah, i don't really see where that goes right now
It is.
But to me, Star Wars is the story of the Skywalker family (And Obi Wan as an exception). After what they did on the Sequel Trilogy I'm no longer interested in what comes next. Now that the Skywalkers are done, I'm also done.
The prequels don't deserve reverence. Also, this was LITERALLY yesterday:
2019 was in general a good year for SW. The only big flub was TROS.
This was where the fun was supposed to begin...
It could have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to the Star Wars fandom.
It could have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to the Star Wars fandom.
People acting like an Obiwan series wouldn't easily be amazing are blowing my mind.
It doesn't need to be some epic length thing. A simple story of Obiwan coming to terms with all the terrible shit that went down, perhaps a couple travels, throw in some flashbacks (bring back Hayden) and it would be excellent.
I'd take this a million times over Cassian Andor
It doesn't need to be some epic length thing. A simple story of Obiwan coming to terms with all the terrible shit that went down, perhaps a couple travels, throw in some flashbacks (bring back Hayden) and it would be excellent.
I'd take this a million times over Cassian Andor
Interesting. I'm the complete opposite. I couldn't wait for the sequel trilogy to be over so we can finally move on from Skywalker and that era.
It's time for new shit.
Jeez, some of you are acting like this is being cancelled. It literally says " the scripts will be reworked with the hopeful goal of reassembling this summer".
EDIT: Wait, this wasn't supposed to start filming until later this year. This article makes no sense.
EDIT: Wait, this wasn't supposed to start filming until later this year. This article makes no sense.
This is full clickbait, scripts have been done for a long time, it's filming in the summer. I hate all this drama they're trying to create around Star Wars. Sick of it.
My point was about consistency, and I would argue that Star Wars has been far more inconsistent. Higher highs but much lower lows. But most importantly, the MCU felt like it was building toward something and it indisputably stuck the landing with the first Avengers movie.
Star Wars gave us a sequel trilogy in conflict with itself and a proverbial wet fart of a conclusion. There's nobody steering that ship.
One good film makes up for a mountain of mistakes? TLJ is good because of Rian fucking Johnson, that's it. That he was allowed to do his thing in peace was the only reason it was good.
At this point, I truly do think KK is either bad at her job or simply useless. The role of a producer is to help advocate for the director with the studio, to secure them the budget and time they need to do their work and ensure the film comes in on time and on budget. How many fucking clashes has she had with directors now? Let's look at it like this (I'm skipping TLJ):
1. Disney hires JJ to do TFA after many other directors said no given the timeframe. They give him an insane timeline still, but he's finally able to get it pushed back some. The timeline is still short. He produces a safe, fresh reboot despite studio pressure.
2. Rogue One is greenlit and Gareth Edwards is chosen to direct. KK decides the film is a mess and Edwards a hack so she has the entire third act reshot and directed by Tony Gilroy over Edwards objections. The result is a terrible film.
3. Greenlights and Hires Lord and Miller to direct Solo: A Star Wars Story, despite their style and track record being known she clashes with them and eventually fires them. She then brings on Ron Howard to complete the film on the same timeframe that Lord and Miller had. No additional time or real money is allotted to Howard. Solo is also a backdoor pilot into a series of spin-off films dealing with the Underworld.
4. Solo bombs and the entire Underworld idea of spin-off films is scrapped. This despite getting hot actors like Donald Glover to play Lando Calrissian which might've actually interested people with his own film.
5. Had previously hired Colin Treverrow to direct Ep. IX despite knowing his history. Clashes with Treverrow and ultimately fires him. Panics after firing him and begs any director to pick up the pieces, JJ is foolish enough to say yes. JJ is alloted zero extra time nor money to complete the film. The result is the worst SW film in history.
6. Hires D&D to do their own SW films during GoT success. Fires D&D after GoT backlash.
Like, at what point is she actually doing a good job? Why would any director want to work with someone that is immediately prepared to stab them in the back and fire them and is also completely unable to get the studio to allot them extra time or money?
Is this person an actual insider or just speculating nonsense?
If she's incapable of pushing back against Iger or Horn then that still classifies her as being bad at her job. Like, that's literally her job as a producer to fend off the studio and help protect the director's vision. If she can't protect the creatives then she's not good at her job.
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I've always been confused at why nobody wanted a Solo prequel but many want Obi-Wan. Just felt like something we really don't need. The Mandalorian was mostly great so more stuff like that with characters we've never met is what I'd want.
She gets the blame because she's the head of Lucasfilm. Also it's not like people don't drag Iger for this mess occasionally.
People would eat up a show about Darth Vader hunting Jedi until the sun explodes
But she was happy with TROS script, what was this one actually good?
Have you seen the amount of hate JJ and Rian have gotten? Plus, she's the face of Lucasfilm
Have you seen the amount of hate JJ and Rian have gotten? Plus, she's the face of Lucasfilm
I blame KK and Igor equally ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
And she IS the head of the Lucasfilm. Does she get a free pass because she answers to someone higher? By that logic, Iger also gets a pass because he has investors and shareholders to answer to. When does it end and we actually hold people accountable for their fuck ups???
They like Ewan as Obi Wan.
You can't replicate Harrison Ford.
Yes, yes it is like that. Like, read any "Bad SW news" thread on Era, compare the amount of times he's brought up compared to her. Like, genuinely do that.
And Obi-wan prequel is feasible because Ewan McGregor is young enough to still play him, or better yet, old enough. As Obi-wan looked like this in 4:
Sure and stuff like this should remain as comics or books, not every SW thing should become a movie or a show unless you want a SW fatigue, when you sit on a gold mine like Star Wars you don't want to hand out pennies if you know what I mean.
But Horn and Iger are above her who end up getting the final say in a lot (See Horn's involvement in Gunn's initial firing from Guardians).
Let's not pretend that those names rarely, if at all, get brought up in these threads when it comes to Star Wars.
And again, her name rarely gets brought up for the good.
Talent can diminish over time though. People get old. She's clearly past it now. If a person who produced those great films you mentioned, can also produce a turd like ROS, they should probably retire.
I agree that the hate is ridiculous though. Same with people hating on the actors. It's completely unnecessary.
And there we go. I'm more inclined to believe THR than Collider, especially since they are able to actually explain the situation to where it makes sense.
I'm expecting it, and Rian's trilogy, to be cancelled. Once it's confirmed that's it for me too (for very different reasons than it is for you but that's fine)
Watched every film except the holiday special, and watched most of the shows. Stuck it out to see the ninth film in this great big universe only for them to suddenly say it was all just ever a one-family saga. Whatever this franchise was pre-2018, it's clearly not what it's become post-2018 at this point. For those that works for: all the best to you. It ain't for me. It couldn't be less for me
Fans will be like "where's the loyalty, where's the love". Rian Johnson. It starts and stops there for me
As for Ewan: ROTS was very fun for me, he had a great time playing the character in the three films, and he was the one that wanted to come back and do one more thing as the character he actively enjoyed being once it became clear the franchise was back and doing consistent things. That's more passion, more heart, more love than this franchise has been allowed to show onscreen in the last three years without blowback, and than people involved with this franchise have been allowed to show offscreen without being replaced with a new director in the dead of night because too much risk was taken. I'll always appreciate passion
Probably because there's another division under Iger and Horn that continues to do extremely well, so the weak link appears to be Kennedy, whether it's true or not.
Good. Better to keep it well paced and focused instead of dragging it.
The reshoots saved that film and the third act is the most memorable part. Are you sharing whatever it is you're smoking? I want to try it.