So what are we looking at in terms of docked performance if we use the current Switch clock speeds?
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Comment by NVIDIA employee confirms existence of Tegra239 - the SoC likely to be used on the Nintendo Switch 2
- Thread starter Atheerios
- Start date
People worry about Nintendo and backwards compatibility, but I don't see any problems with that. Switch 2 will definitely be able to play Switch games, and as long as Nintendo continues to use ARM cores and Nvidia GPUs, I don't see why compatibility would break or be cut off.
I mean, where else would Nintendo go at this point? x86 is completely out of the question. AMD doesn't have a GPU solution that would force Nintendo to make such a drastic transition. Nintendo seems locked into Nvidia's SoC designs for a very long time - which means our Switch library should be playbale on future systems well past 2030. Any system after 2030 would probably be more than powerful enough to emulate all of our Switch games anyway assuming there was ever a compatibility issue.
I genuinely think this could result in a shit storm even Nintendo can't ignore. I doubt they are this dumb though.
My technical knowhow is more software than hardware. But from someone knowledgeable on the subject...
Goddamn...
Wait really? I thought it was ~PS4 Pro performance with DLSS? It hitting near PS4 Pro performance with no DLSS seems wild to me.
It's hard for me to imagine a Nintendo console having that kind of power…but fuck I'd be super excited if we end up with a souped up, handheld PS4. But yeah I just don't see Nintendo putting out a $500 machine. Even $400 would seem pretty extreme for them but this sounds like it wouldn't be cheap!
Probably thanks to more modern hardware compared to what the PS4 Pro used.
Basically, it's Switch 2. No, wait, Switch Pro. No, no Switch lite OLED
I change my mind, my sources misheard
But there IS a Switch successor being developed! For sure! Confirmed!
/s obviously
I'm interested in how this will compare to a Steam Deck, both in size and in performance. I expect smaller and faster so this thing is gonna be quite a workhorse.
Oh sorry I missed that.
Wow, that's kinda a huge huge leap isn't it from the current switch.
DLSS itself isn't going to increase the cost of the hardware, but the current and coming economic conditions could.
I'm thinking $450 max though.
Yep. I know Nintendo likes to Nintendo. But, ignoring backwards compatibility would be a blatant "fuck you" to everyone in this current environment.
Not that this confirms anything but, when asked about hardware, the president of Nintendo always re-iterates their focus with the next hardware transition:
- They don't want to start over
- They want to make sure that they're able to maintain the Switch userbase of 100+ million
- They want to ensure that the transition to the next hardware is as smooth as possible (specifically mentions avoiding past mistakes)
Source:
Nintendo says the transition to its next console is ‘a major focus for us’ | VGC
The company wants to alleviate the risk of resetting its userbase…
www.videogameschronicle.com
It is, but if you think about it from the perspective of the Switch being more powerful than the Xbox 360 it's not that crazy.
I try to keep expectations in check. 1536 cores is quite a bit and it's a newer generation. there are some bottlenecks though, like memory bandwidth and power limits.
Could be something like the Jetson Nano Orin, which is 199 or 299 depending on core count.
developer.nvidia.com
Rumored specs sound like a third higher Orin Nano SKU.
Solving Entry-Level Edge AI Challenges with NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano | NVIDIA Technical Blog
NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano series system-on-modules (SoMs) deliver up to 80x the AI performance of NVIDIA Jetson Nano and set the new standard for entry-level edge AI.
developer.nvidia.com
Rumored specs sound like a third higher Orin Nano SKU.
Just imagining Nintendo games on the same level visually in technical level with games like Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon, God of War, etc etc is already making my mouth drool, hahaha.
Sounds promising. Also sounds like they plan to continue supporting the original Switch, so this will be more like a PS4/PS4 Pro situation.Not that this confirms anything but, when asked about hardware, the president of Nintendo always re-iterates their focus with the next hardware transition:
This screams BC to me, but you never know
- They don't want to start over
- They want to make sure that they're able to maintain the Switch userbase of 100+ million
- They want to ensure that the transition to the next hardware is as smooth as possible (specifically mentions avoiding past mistakes)
Source:
Nintendo says the transition to its next console is ‘a major focus for us’ | VGC
The company wants to alleviate the risk of resetting its userbase…
Even with good hardware I'd say the odds of Nintendo going for realistic artstyles on their games is very slim. The games are gonna look fantastic though.
More like GameBoy and GameBoy Color.
More importantly they need an actual online service platform to go with this power. I'm talking parties on the system, achievements, social tools, etc.
I mean, of course there is a Switch successor being developed. I get not wanting to buy into leaks and whatnot. But, thinking a Switch follow up isn't well into development by now would be fucking insane. It could still be a couple of years away and it would still be in development.
Oh yeah not saying that Nintendo gonna pursue realistic graphics for their games, I just meant to say it's exciting to see their games on their hardware that is capable of handling such games technically speaking. Stuff like Zelda, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade......... *droll*
You're also in a tiny form factor that is designed to run a chip at most 20W. PS4 Pro was hitting 150W.
nearly done with xenoblade 3, a lot of these areas would look amazing if there was a proper shadow-casting sun
Dream machine tbh, especially with Backward Compatibility. ESPECIALLY especially if it can boost the performance on those old titles… so many switch titles I'd kill to see running at 60fps (emulation aside)
The known T239 specs provide 0 doubt it will he above a PS4. This isn't even a question.
It will be impressive considering valve is selling the steam deck at a loss too, so if Nintendo makes a stronger system and for $400 and sells it for a profit that's really impressive
Not really. It's PS4 level by resolution. So, it runs games the PS4 runs at 1080p at 720p/PS4 performance, more or less. So definitely weaker than a PS4. I imagine Switch 2 is closer to Xbox One or slightly worse in handheld. Docked, with DLSS using Ultra Performance (720p->4K) probably closer to PS4 Pro.
Just my guesses.
The consoles are AMD hardware so this 2070 comparison you're making is literally nonsensical.
I'm sorry... I'm still stung by the Nintendo Revolution build up. Then after a few more non-powerful systems (in comparison to the competition).. I just can't get my hopes up that the final version will match what is hinted in the OP.
I think it will come close though, so that's exciting.
I think it will come close though, so that's exciting.