Lower budget Nightwing, Batgirl, and Deathstroke would do wonders at the box-office if they were good. No need to waste them on that service.
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Exclusive to their streaming service I don't think that will happen. But I can see them going for a low (for this genre) budget of like under 100 million for stuff like nightwing and deathstroke and it would be better for it tbh. Would likely ensure they don't go overblown with the third act too and keep it strictly fighting
Absolutely true, but there's little space on the slate for upcoming comic book movies if DC takes too long to pick a direction and figure out what films do they want to release on their schedule without it having to conflict too much with either the competition or their own films released at the same time. What better way would there be to advertise the streaming service than to have some heavy-hitting exclusives like a Nightwing or a Batgirl movie that's canonical to the DCEU? I just don't think there can be enough hype for them if they come out untested and lower budget to the type of fare we've been bombarded with lately.
Yup. It's where Young Justice season 3 is going to die after people worked so hard to bring it back to life.
Yeah, I think that's absolutely the way to go for those films. Take a page from Fox's approach with Deadpool and Logan- lower budget, small scale films for those characters, with a potential R-rating for Deathstroke. There's really no need for a Nightwing or Batgirl film to have a massive budget.
WB is and will always be a feckless company. If ever you need a picture perfect real world example of putting the a cart before the horse, look no further than the brothers Warner. Their inability create a vision and then execute is what will end the DCEU. Instead of being reactionary they need to stick to their plan and put in directors that adhere to said plan. As much as I respect Snyder he was not the person to give all the power to start this universe. They should have done Man of Steel 2 before BvS, they shouldn't have rushed those BS email Easter eggs in BvS, they shouldn't cut the shit out of Suicide Squad and let some stupid ass trailer company finish editing the movie, thank god Patty Jenkins fought WB and got to make Wonder Woman after all, in fact they should just write her a blank check and only add their signature on the bottom and "Wonder Woman 2" on the note portion of said check, finally they should have just fired Snyder outright and let Josh do Justice League. I think this universe is finally picking up on the right track but at this point it may be too late. If they begin making one-off movies I'm out. Hopefully they will see the light, keep Geoff on the team or maybe even promote him to President and tell Tsujihara to GetTheFuckOut.gif so that we can stay the course. I honestly have little to no confidence this will happen but here's to hoping...
I literally just got back from my second viewing. On my first viewing I liked it. After my second viewing, yeah... this is easily the best DCEU movie to date. Despite all it's "problems" it's a really good fun movie that is enjoyable both as a DC fan and as movie goer. And most of the "problems" it has exist in most comic book movies but I see how failed past attempts could make the general public lose faith / enable the trolls and haters even more. It stinks because this is a really good movie doomed to pay for the sins of the past. It could definitely use a couple minutes here and there as connective tissue but at this point I don't even think I want to watch the UC version as I may explode into a fiery passionate ball of rage and that may interfere with me watching Aquaman.
I do wonder if Titans is received very well do they consider adding it into the universe unlike the CW shows.
I always felt like SS should have been a smaller action movie ala the raid/assault on precinct 13
nah bruh, send in Harley to stop a world threatening enemy. She's got it.
Joker should have been the main bad guy. Have him and a couple of lower level villains take over a building. Raid it up. There's your movie
David Ayer seems to agree that they should have scaled it back. I seem to remember him saying that, and that the Joker should've been the antagonist.
The Assault on Arkham animated movie had it right. The Task Force X JLU episode did it even better. It should have the feel of a heist movie.
Suicide Squad's missions range from stealing artifacts and such to recent things like capturing Zod. The possibilities are limitless.
I just need the Batfamily on the big screen pls WB. I need to see Bruce interact with his kids...
So I hope Nightwing and Batgirl do end up getting made eventually.
So I hope Nightwing and Batgirl do end up getting made eventually.
Suicide Squad 2 villain should be either:
The Penguin
Black Mask
Lex Luthor & Deathstroke
Two-Face
The Penguin
Black Mask
Lex Luthor & Deathstroke
Two-Face
Insane that WB lost $300m over two movies. Such a waste.
I wish DC can get off earth and explore other worlds like making a New Gods movie. The possibilities...
I mean, the whole point of the Suicide Squad is they go on suicide missions. It's even in the name. I get wanting to scale things back, but I'm also not really interested in watching them beat up street gangsters in Gotham.
Send them out to capture, idk, Ra's Al Ghul with a bunch of superpowered assassins in tow. Or maybe steal Amazo from Dr. Morrow. Something at least a little above their paygrade on the surface.
Send them out to capture, idk, Ra's Al Ghul with a bunch of superpowered assassins in tow. Or maybe steal Amazo from Dr. Morrow. Something at least a little above their paygrade on the surface.
So who the heck decided that we openly spoil stuff from the movie? Like, we never did this so early for any other movie.
You're being very sarcastic? I thought you hated SS more than you hate Whedon and you fucking hate Whedon.
I think DCEU had a plan in fact they probably had more of a plan than people would acknowledge. Look at how much foreshadowing was in BVS, WW's photo and it paying off in her solo movie, Knightmare scene which was supposed to pay off in JL, death in the family with Robin and the Joker, Flashpoint Batman, Cyborg, JL, Flash and his time travel shenanigans, Lex and his father, the problem is people don't like what they are seeing and shit had to be excised and rejigged.
https://www.facebook.com/Erinelizabell/posts/10210876659735808
I couldn't find the previous thread, if anyone can find the other thread feel free to post it there
King Arthur was a co-production with Village Roadshow and Geostorm was a co-production with Skydance so their losses would be a lot lower
WB still having quite a good year, will finish behind Disney after Star Wars releases but way ahead of the rest
Hell no.
I don't want to see a Fish Tattooed Penguin, Rapper Two Face, Strip Club owner Black Mask.
I'm gonna quote a post from another board that made a really good point that I hadn't even considered before
This is spot on imo. Where do you take the character after all this?
This is spot on imo. Where do you take the character after all this?
Of course he knows.Eli Snyder liked this petition tweet....Zack Knows
That's an oxymoron. Need I remind you Mad Max: Fury Road lost money?
They made 300+ mil internationally, right?
The home media sales brought them in some good money too.
You know what I mean though. Snyder's attempt may have been good for me and a few others but we are in the minority. He has wonderful themes and layers in his scenes but it's just not a flavor of cinema people want right now. I understand that.
People want a "best hits" version of their superheroes... Snyder tried to be a little deeper. Audiences didn't respond well.
WB is going to be probably way too gun shy to do something like Nightwing any time soon after JL bombed. They need their major characters to be doing well before they can do films like that.
If JL did good (or hell even okay) I am sure they would move forward with Nightwing. But now? No way. They are going to basically all but reboot Batman and the Bat-family right now with Reeves getting full control of that side of the DC Universe for sure.
They gave him 3 chances already and they got rid of him on JL. There is literally no chance at all they give him a 4th chance.
the only DC movie I ever want to see from Snyder in the future is Injustice, like an elseworlds movie. I don't think his ideas line up with a cinematic universe that can be successful. plus its a waste of his (and everybody elses) time to try and make his work fit into it, we get a mess like JL.
I like BvS, but that never should have happened in something like the DCEU.
I like BvS, but that never should have happened in something like the DCEU.
Just saw that Flash deleted scene, why the hell would they cut that, it looked great.
Working your ass of for years on a movie in a universe you care deeply for, only for you to have the movie snatched away from you and butchered from hell and back.
Working your ass of for years on a movie in a universe you care deeply for, only for you to have the movie snatched away from you and butchered from hell and back.
If moviemaking didn't involve risks and production companies went for the safest choice possible, we wouldn't have gotten the likes of Fury Road or Bladerunner 2049 in the first place.
It makes sense then that DC Films want their films to be standalone as opposed to be part of an overall universe. Now if only studio execs don't fuck this up, but I have my doubts. The higher ups only care about their interests, not ours.
I think a Justice League: Flashpoint would be perfect for Zack Snyder.
He'd get to play with all of the toys in a grim, twisted universe. You want Batman to dual-wield pistols? You got it. You want Wonder Woman to behead someone? Flashpoint's got you, Zack.
Then when all is said and done the movie would reset the DC Cinematic Universe in the lighter direction Warner Bros. is going for.
I agree that Snyder would be perfect for a elseworlds.
He could exercise his ideas using his gritty trademark style in a Red Son movie adaptation for instance. Think Watchmen opening montage but with soviet superman doing various stuff, from political acts, to saving people from a iminent chernobyl disaster, all for the glory of mother russia
Audiences made it clear that they don't want to see these heroes as assholes, they shouldn't try something like this
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