Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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Quarantine a city of 9 million sounds extremely difficult.
It's possible, I guess... and probably even necessary.
A scarily accurate film...
Well, I'm heading to Beijing tomorrow so knowing that it's somewhat contained is reassuring. Now, I hope that they will be able to find a way to cure and take care of all the people in Wuhan. It must not be a Dome situation. I hope people there will understand that it's for the good of everyone and that they need to take it seriously...
Please tell us how the current situation is accurate to the Hollywood movie with goop actress.
Contagion is a pretty well regarded film in terms of what a novel flu-like outbreak would look like both in societal impact, spread and government response.
Tell me a better film that at least tries to showcase such a scenario.
Pretty confident that it has never happened to a city of 11 million people
Even if they don't have direct accountability they still do care about how people feel. Best way to stay in power is to keep the majority of the people happy.
Plus luckily pretty much in all country in the world individual rights are revoked when it's about public health.
It's good that they are not underestimating this(or holy shit, they thing is that bad), I'm was half wrong here.
It's still not like a film scenario, private and economic related traffic are still going in and out.
Please tell us how the current situation is accurate to the Hollywood movie with goop actress.
Novel virus originating from wildlife transfers to pigs and then to humans, where it spreads to others due to poor sanitary practice. From there, it jumps via air travel to countries all around the world, where it spreads asymptomatically for days before the full extent of the outbreak is known.
The movie is extremely well-regarded for both its scenario and the accuracy of its epidemiology, and the scenario is quite similar to what's happening right now, down to the virus' basic reproduction rate. Although, in the movie, the virus causes encephalitis rather than pneumonia.
Not letting people leave or travel on enclosed areas where you have no choice but to get others sick is not a terrible idea if you really don't want it to spread.
I know it causes many issues and would no doubt be terrible to be there but leaving your local area to take buses, trains etc is a bigger risk and they are doing many of them a favor in some ways possibly.
If you keep them moving it will only spread to every location imaginable.
I don't really understand why this has taken almost a month to ramp up though. We knew it in December and it died down a lot for alm
I know it causes many issues and would no doubt be terrible to be there but leaving your local area to take buses, trains etc is a bigger risk and they are doing many of them a favor in some ways possibly.
If you keep them moving it will only spread to every location imaginable.
I don't really understand why this has taken almost a month to ramp up though. We knew it in December and it died down a lot for alm
Yea I think you're focusing on the wrong things in the initial reply, the comment was stating the movie is scary accurate to what an outbreak would look like, not that it's scary accurate to the current situation, although due to the films accuracy similarities could happen.
I'm not saying the movie sucks I'm saying the movie scenario isn't representing the current situation.
Contagion virus kills people after 2 days, and death is inevitable after symptoms.
Are we there yet?
EDIT : TheLostBigBoss allright
Contagion virus kills people after 2 days, and death is inevitable after symptoms.
Are we there yet?
EDIT : TheLostBigBoss allright
So, once again, people bring up Contagion in respect to the accuracy of the film in what it's own fictional infection would look like in our reality.
You keep thinking people are saying "CONTAGION IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE SAME VIRUS" and... nobody is saying that.
This is...not true. In Contagion the virus has a 20-30% mortality rate and generally develops within a week. Paltrow dies four days after infection.
You seem to be confusing Contagion with Outbreak, in which the virus has the qualities you mention.
Anyway, the point is that the scenario itself is similar, though the virus itself is not.
looks like a fresh food market in china? What do you mean what is it?
I believe that is where the disease is thought to have transmitted to humans.
Local government: Don't sell civet cats they cause coronaviruses
Citizens: But it's our local delicacy
Local government: Wellllllllllll okay.
Bring your own utensils for restaurants & wash your hands properly with alcohol cleanser/soap.
Refrain from swapping liquids with others.
I think you should be ok. . . if it doesn't mutate.
yea but what was your question ? "What in the fuck is this?" was in regards to what ?
Oh, wasn't my question. I'm guessing whoever posted it was surprised that such places exist? Unsure.
Simply crossing out the word "wild" as if that fixes/changes anything?
As in, "what in the fuck are they thinking/doing?"
(The phrase is probably referring to the entire situation.)
The videos are impressive. Like a movie, actually, with all the streets barren and the infected being carried inside plastic containers. I just read the quarantine was called after many citizens had left already, so let's hope it doesn't blow up anymore.
So far, from the reports we're getting the mortality rate of the virus is somewhere around 2~3%, so it's not as deadly as SARS (yet).
What a year guys...And we still haven't left January.
So far, from the reports we're getting the mortality rate of the virus is somewhere around 2~3%, so it's not as deadly as SARS (yet).
What a year guys...And we still haven't left January.
my bad, didn't realize you weren't the one that posted the question.
they just 差不多'd their sign to fix the wild animal issue, it's normal 😂
Yeah, these are the "announced" numbers
If the number is 4k before Chinese New Year 😟
Even with the announced numbers, it's just above a 3 percent mortality rate.
Even though I believe logically it should be fine. I am actually in China and some of the posts and news story's stir my anxi
What video is that.
To be fair that's, what, 30x as deadly as the flu? Not something to sneeze at, as it were.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf
I believe this from 2017 says 2.0 but it says that combined with pneumonia. Either way just trying not to cause a panic is all. Take all the precautions you can no reason to freak out just yet.
I thought they postponed
The cheap ones don't do anything.
The expensive ones need to be swapped out every hour.
I would post both in here but it seems there's a bit of confusion going on regarding their origin. If you go on Twitter and look for "Wuhan" and then get to the videos section, you'll see 2 or 3 that appear to be legit. One of them shows tents outside a hospital, but that one seems to be in another city, not Wuhan. Another one shows a highway being block in the middle of the night preventing people to leave the city, so that one could be Wuhan.
Isn't that just the percentage of total deaths from any disease? Not the mortality rate of the influenza itself.
maybe I am confusing things I am tired as hell right now. Either way I hope this isn't going to be anything like the 1820 and 1920 pandemics that went on.
WHO are waiting another 24 hours to see how things develop. They haven't declared an emergency yet.
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