I'm pretty sure this is the completed version of the movie. It comes out next week.
I'm pretty sure this is the completed version of the movie. It comes out next week.
Interesting, thanks.I'm pretty sure this is the completed version of the movie. It comes out next week.
Have you seen Resolution or The Endless yet?Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump.
I watch Underwater a couple of hours ago. While it isn't a cosmic horror, it got me in the mood. Anybody got any new recs ?
i've seen Colour Out Of Space already.
Yep yep.Have you seen Resolution or The Endless yet?
Watch Resolution first if not.
Hmm,
None of those sound familiar. So i'll have a look. Thanks.Hmm,
I hesitate to call these ones good but they are all cosmic horror or adjacent
Black Mountain Side.
The Corridor
The Creature Below
Dirt Dauber
Die Farbe
I'm not much of a reader. A horribly ignorant admission to make, i know.Not a movie, but a horror novel I read recently that I really liked. It's a murder mystery set on the south side of Chicago in 1918. Incredible setting, lots of historical details, memorable characters, and definitely some cosmic horror.
Amazon.com: Lake of Darkness: A Novel: 9781945863509: Kenemore, Scott: Books
Amazon.com: Lake of Darkness: A Novel: 9781945863509: Kenemore, Scott: Bookswww.amazon.com
This cover vaguely makes me think of Alan wakeNot a movie, but a horror novel I read recently that I really liked. It's a murder mystery set on the south side of Chicago in 1918. Incredible setting, lots of historical details, memorable characters, and definitely some cosmic horror.
Amazon.com: Lake of Darkness: A Novel: 9781945863509: Kenemore, Scott: Books
Amazon.com: Lake of Darkness: A Novel: 9781945863509: Kenemore, Scott: Bookswww.amazon.com
Hey ERA! I've been working on a project lately that incorporates some strong elements of cosmic horror, especially inspired by the works of H.P. Lovecraft, and I got to thinking about how relatively little cosmic horror I've seen in movies. I thought I'd start a thread to see what everyone's favorites were and maybe find a few new recommendations to add to my watch list.
First thing's first: What is Cosmic Horror?
Cosmic Horror is horror that derives its power to frighten from the unknown. It is a quintessentially post-enlightenment type of horror based around the concept that the universe is vast and unknowable and the more we attempt to discover about it through scientific inquiry, the more alien and terrible it becomes. Because of this, Cosmic Horror often has strong elements of science fiction though those elements are certainly not a necessity. Cosmic Horror often deals with themes of madness or altered perception, as the protagonists of the story encounter things which logic cannot explain and which test their understanding of the universe and their place in it.
I think there is an important key to deciding if something is Cosmic Horror:
A vast and uncaring universe. Cosmic Horror depicts a universe where humans are unimportant and all of our attempts to understand or control that universe are futile. Whatever the threat in a Cosmic Horror story is, it is usually unconcerned with humans, and may regard us as insects or take no notice of us at all.
The creation of the Cosmic Horror genre is generally credited to the works of H.P. Lovecraft and a few of his direct literary descendants writing pulp horror. A lot of Cosmic Horror shares the popular trappings of his work with cults, alien gods, and secrets that will drive you mad, but a work does not need to be directly Lovecraftian in order to be good Cosmic Horror.
Here are the Cosmic Horror movies that I have seen and enjoyed. Do you like Cosmic Horror, and is so, what are your favorite movie examples?
1. Alien
The first Alien movie is pretty much perfect cosmic horror (as well as being a nearly perfectly constructed thriller).
A crew of people land on a hostile planet and discover a derelict spaceship of unknown origin. Inside they discover a massive corpse and hundreds of alien eggs. Soon enough they are being hunted through their own ship by a nightmarish creature which picks them off one by one...
I love how alien everything is in Alien, from the almost organic designs of the derelict ship to the design of the Space Jockey itself. It all hints at a huge universe that does not care about humanity at all.
Yes, all of this goes out the window with the most recent movies. Covenant itself fully transitions from Cosmic Horror to Gothic Horror of all things. That being said, if you take the original Alien as its own film, I think it still deserves to be lauded as extremely effective Cosmic Horror.
2. Event Horizon
This is another space themed movie and it's likely to be a more controversial pick. An experimental FTL ship vanishes during it's maiden voyage and is discovered years later floating in the far reaches of the solar system. A salvage crew goes to recover the ship and discovers the terrible fate of the original crew.
Event Horizon makes my list because it's central plot is built on the idea of circumventing natural law leading to horror. The Event Horizon traveled through another dimension and when it came back changed. Bonus points for also having a lot of the horror be tied to characters struggling to understand if what is happening to them is real or not. I enjoy Event Horizon despite its cheesier parts, but I know that it's kind of a love it or hate it movie.
3. In the Mouth of Madness
Oh hi again, Sam Neill! In the Mouth of Madness is the second in John Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy and sits between The Thing and The Prince of Darkness. In the Mouth of Madness might just be the most "Lovecraftian" movie on this list. It's clear that Carpenter wanted to pay specific homage to Lovecraft's work so you have a small New England town with terrible secrets, tentacled beasts, books which drive people mad, people who can't tell if books they are reading are real... It's all pretty great and John Carpenter swings for the fences with bringing out as much weird from the concept as he can manage while Sam Neill devours scenery in order to sell the increasing instability of his character.
If you are interested, try to watch this without learning too much about it, even some of the posters have annoying spoilers.
4. The Thing
The first of the aforementioned Apocalypse Trilogy and one of the greatest practical effect horror films ever made. An antarctic research station is infiltrated by an alien creature that was dug up from beneath the ice. The crew realizes that they cannot trust anyone or anything as the creature can assume the form of any one of them.
I think The Thing is a good example of Cosmic Horror because, again, the creature has no interest in humans for our own sake. It's simply trying to survive and escape, and the humans it encounters are simply threats or disguises to be avoided or used and consumed. It also hearkened back to the trope of an expedition finding something they shouldn't have disturbed which Lovecraft used so much.
5. The Void
The Void is a recent indie horror movie currently available on Netflix and, much like In the Mouth of Madness, it is pretty much a direct Lovecraftian story. A small group of people are trapped in a rural hospital as strange cultists close in and they learn that not everyone inside is who they seem. The movie is pulpy and fun and moves at a decent pace. It does a good job balancing the tense claustrophobia of its premise with some more large scale stakes and visuals.
A good use of Lovecraftian tropes that keeps escalating until the end.
So what say you ERA? Do you like Cosmic Horror? Do you think these movies are good examples of it? What are your favorite Cosmic Horror movies?
EDIT: ERA responds! Here is the list of movies (and a few books) that received several recommendations through the course of the thread:
Thanks to astro for creating the original version of this list
I agree that it doesn't have the horror element of madness but I think it's straddles the line and it's so obviously borrowing from the Lovecraft mythos. It's definitely showcasing the mystery of the oceanic depths
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I watch Underwater a couple of hours ago. While it isn't a cosmic horror, it got me in the mood. Anybody got any new recs ?
i've seen Colour Out Of Space already.
Are you kidding? It's the MOST cosmic horror considering a special someone is in it...
Are you kidding? It's the MOST cosmic horror considering a special someone is in it...
Are you kidding? It's the MOST cosmic horror considering a special someone is in it...
Well there are different degrees of it. There are films that make direct links to Lovercraft mythos even if they dumb down their monsters to basically zombies. There are films that have a few shots of cosmic horror imagery but aren't themselves cosmic horror (Hellboy).
Fundamentally, cosmic horror must involve a supernatural reality-warping extra-planetary threat that is completely unknowable and is on a gargantuan scale. Extra-planetary can mean from space or neighboring dimensions. It can be an alien that's been on our planet for centuries. It can't be a conventional alien of the flying saucer type but something that blurs the lines between sci-fi and supernatural. Bonus points for body horror.
Unknowable and scale should combine to form an atmosphere of existential dread. The threat must completely upend your perspective of the universe, ideally by putting mankind's importance, dominion, and stability at the very bottom of a food-chain and/or showing our narrow perception of what reality and the laws of physics to be a completely fragile and relative thing rather than an absolute. What is known and fact and permanent is shown as to be as malleable as clay. It should be shown that the universe is a dark and terrible place and that our little conventional ecosphere is a tiny bubble of comfort that disappears if you take even a small step outside of it. The threat should be so alien and cosmic in scope that understanding or relating to it is impossible, bar a vague knowledge that we'll be consumed or used up for some minor purpose. Chaos and pain for its own sake is acceptable.
The alien and reality-bending nature of the threat should overlap with insanity. Threats are so unknowable and mind-bending that they shatter minds in their wake with the knowledge of their existence. The insanity aspects can be spun-off to mean the presence of cults.
Scale also overlaps with several elements. Time, in that they've been around so long that they are the status quo and we are the newly-emerged and temporary break in chaos, i.e. the universe belongs to them. Scale in scope, so that it triggers that existential dread by making us realise that we're not important and forever. We're dust or fleas and equally as fragile. It also helps make the threat unknowable the same way an ant colony will never understand our motivations.
Not all these elements must be present for something to be cosmic horror. Not all films will be equally steeped in cosmic horror. A few examples:
In the Mouth of Madness (reality bending, extra-dimensional threat, insanity)
Cabin in the Woods (cosmic scale threat that up-ends our view of the world and place in universe)
Annihilation (reality bending, non-conventional alien threat, minor insanity & body horror)
The Borderlands (cosmic scale supernatural threat, insanity)
John Dies at the End (cosmic extra-dimensional threat, reality bending, insanity as a goal, body horror)
Event Horizon (extra dimensional threat, upending of what we know as a safe universe, insanity, minor reality bending)
It (cosmic scale extra-dimensional threat, insanity, reality bending)
An example of something you might superficially argue as cosmic horror but isn't, is Alien.
+ body horror
+ non-conventional alien
~ insanity - you could make a case for this but to me it's very conventional insanity, same as you'd get when a serial killer makes a chase victim "snap" and they go and do something stupid and borderline suicidal
~ dangerous universe - only localised to their colonies. We have plenty of peaceful settled worlds and it's not like the gulf in threat between us and them is insurmountable.
- no reality or laws of physics bending
- completely understandable. They eat, shit and fuck, same as any ordinary creature. They're about as unknowable as Jurassic Park's dinosaurs or Eight Legged Freaks' spiders.
- teeny-tiny scale. They have no grand-scale unknowable plan with us as a footnote. We're not the ants, they are. Just a particularly virulent kind.
Now I don't expect to get full agreement of my definition and we can quibble over the precise line a film becomes cosmic horror, but we should be able to conclude that Chernobyl is not cosmic horror. Get Out is not cosmic horror.
It is the opening of the door to cosmic horror just as they opened the door to Cthulhu.
The problem with cosmic horror movies is the best way to experience one is to go in not knowing its a cosmic horror movie.
I'd highly recommend watching Resolution before watching The Endless. It's not required, but it does make The Endless a little more coherent a little sooner and pays off a few otherwise random "things" in the film.I need to rewatch The Color Out of Space. I kept getting distracted last time and couldn't give it my full attention. I think I remember what scene you're talking about.
I'd recommend "The Endless" if you're looking for some more cosmic horror.
I felt just the opposite. I wasn't that enamored with Resolution, even with watching The Endless first. I think I would have actually liked Resolution less if I had watched them in the other order.I'd highly recommend watching Resolution before watching The Endless. It's not required, but it does make The Endless a little more coherent a little sooner and pays off a few otherwise random "things" in the film.
I agree that it doesn't have the horror element of madness but I think it's straddles the line and it's so obviously borrowing from the Lovecraft mythos. It's definitely showcasing the mystery of the oceanic depths
Deep Rising is similar, also recommended :D a forgotten 90´s tentacle monster film
I've been pissed off for a long time that we never got a sequel. Especially after that ending.
The problem with cosmic horror movies is the best way to experience one is to go in not knowing its a cosmic horror movie.
Yes sir! I had chills from the first episode to the last.Not a movie but True Detective Season 1 is the best cosmic horror ever on TV.
I have eyes that can see so Cthulhu could not hide from me.
this stuff will never not sound wrong to me
buying up a movie at the last second or w/e and then attributing it to them, i dunno
but i guess distribution companies get this luxury all the time
maybe its justspecifically for me cuz i saw it in theatersannihilation
That trivial thing is what caught your eye?
I just mentioned Netflix in connection to the film, so people would have some idea what may be inside the spoiler tags, as in, not something new. Mentioning someone in it would have given it away immediately.
I finally got around to watching Colour Out of Space, that was great.
My list:
1. Possession (1981)
2. The Wailing
3. In The Mouth of Madness
4. Begotten
5. Antichrist
6. Sleep Has Her House
7. November (2017)
8. The Beyond
I saw it at a festivalWhere can i watch Sleep Has Her House? I can't seem to find it anywhere