Critical Role |OT2| Back on the Marquet
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I don't know. They went on a mission and did the thing. I don' t know that anything really conducive to discussion happened.
I mean to be fair don't blame people for feeling a lull its been discussed before but:
Doesn't help the breaks are even longer now with 3 out of the 4 weeks. Campaign 2 at episode 82 took 21 months. Campaign 3 at episode 82 took 27 months. Campaign 3 is already 6 months longer.
Campaign 2 ended on 141 Episodes, if campaign 3 ends roughly the same amount of episodes it will be 11 months longer than Campaign 2. Personally I think that's too long, IDK if twitch/YouTube numbers and if they have changed. I don't give a twitch subscription anymore and haven't for a number of months due to the breaks and lull.
Doesn't help the breaks are even longer now with 3 out of the 4 weeks. Campaign 2 at episode 82 took 21 months. Campaign 3 at episode 82 took 27 months. Campaign 3 is already 6 months longer.
Campaign 2 ended on 141 Episodes, if campaign 3 ends roughly the same amount of episodes it will be 11 months longer than Campaign 2. Personally I think that's too long, IDK if twitch/YouTube numbers and if they have changed. I don't give a twitch subscription anymore and haven't for a number of months due to the breaks and lull.
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Maybe we get a TPK so we can get Campaign 4 early like I want! What kind of level 13 party goes around with just a single diamond. Seems like Sam wants perma-death.
They were doing a split party adventure so they sat together according to their two groups.
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They always do that. That is why Matt shouldn't overtune these fights this much. His players aren't Emily Ashford and never focus fire.
Laura and Ashley haven't done much and Travis was almost immediately KOed. So by and large it's been a Liam, Marisha and Taliesin fight.
This feels like some bullshit story save instead of an encounter.
If there is a TPK, I wonder if they will start playing the M9 instead, lol.
BH is just a bad class in general. Normally, you bring DPS back from 0 hp, they can still do everything their class entails. BH can't because they use HP to do stuff. So when Travis is brought back, he can't really do much.
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wouldve been hilarious if it just finished everyone else in the radius except for Otohan
Yeah. But now I am wondering what will be next for Sam. They still need healing, but I dunno if he would want to do another cleric. Fearne could try reincarnation spell, that would be a very interesting turn of events. Except that might feel too much like last campaign for Sam's character.
Oh is Orym's deal now off with Fearne's grandma? His entire party did not come back safe from the moon.
Oh is Orym's deal now off with Fearne's grandma? His entire party did not come back safe from the moon.
Divine Soul sorc maybe? That's still using the cleric spell list but maybe the metamagic will make it feel different enough.
3 sorcerer in party would be a bit extreme.
I was hoping for the campaign to wrap up soon, but this new twist means it will be going to at least next year...
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Really didn't expect Otohan to basically be a Vax on crack lol. She was just damn nasty, really lived up to the whole Legendary warrior status.
Really didn't expect Otohan to basically be a Vax on crack lol. She was just damn nasty, really lived up to the whole Legendary warrior status.
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Well they did, but went back up, so Nana can get him on a technicality if she wants.
Yeah, will make sense, we kinda saw her true self when Chet and Orym made the deal and she was definitely not the sweet wholsome nana when it came to business, so could be a good little tragic twist for Orym to end on (we know Liam loves them). Though also with Fearne she might give a pass as she does seem to actually care about her.
Though I think (if he survives) Orym would stick with Fearne regardless, so ultimately probably be doing what she wants him to do if bound or not. It is kinda interesting he called on her when the 5 minds popped up and she did nothing, not even like a "I tried" (seemed they kinda all forgot once they left though and Matt had already moved on).
Chet or Imogen I think. Travis will jump on a similar "hero moment" if given a chance, he already tried at episode 50, but Lud just "lol noped" him instead.
Learning that the Ruidusborn are just vessels, it seems like Imogen would be a very high priority target for Ludinus or the Reilora now that Othohan is gone and Lilianna is probably the only thing that can delay that now. I assume they die when they are filled.
Crazy fight. I don't mind Matt juicing up his bosses to a crazy degree. Imogen was super clutch in getting that backpack off Otohan.
So thinking on the episode I actually wonder if Ludinus grand plan is to absorb the "vessel", I think we heard that he is jealous of the Ruidusborn and eating the "chosen one" of them is probably a quick way to become 1.
Orym seems intent on biting it, so my bet is on him. Or Chet in his sleep.
Loved the episode, I am fully back in.
So they were down 276 HP, and their total health pool at the start of the fight was (maybe) even with Otohan. Obviously that swung immediately after the first round.
On C3E89, so hopefully I'll be caught up with next week's episode. "Live" showings probably won't be a thing for a bit and tossed my monthly sub elsewhere due it, but it'll be good to be more in the mix.
So, follow up to campaign 3 issues. It has nothing really to do with the arc itself. Love the Ruidus setting, backdrop, and opportunities Matt is laying out for the players. The structure is sound, even if I wish the cool places weren't always on a ticking clock. The issues are namely player/character oriented.
Scenes that stick out are Fearne and FCG's run-in with Otohan and the constant and just not sincere God debate circling. I'm in the midst of Imogen talking to her mom and finally asking real questions, so I'll put a pin in all those repetitive lost opportunities depending on if Matt rewards that or if there's a roll outcome.
And that's kind of where I feel it doubles down on some of the worst aspects of C2. Character traits flanderized that feel counter to their situation, circling the same arguments despite new information or resolutions/understandings established previously, and what feels like active avoidance. Those moments are small in the grand scheme, but for whatever reason they stick out.
On the flip end, I really like where Taliesin has brought Ashton. I'm also curious with what is going on with Laudna's situation and how that will play out with everyone else as that becomes more apparent to them.
So, follow up to campaign 3 issues. It has nothing really to do with the arc itself. Love the Ruidus setting, backdrop, and opportunities Matt is laying out for the players. The structure is sound, even if I wish the cool places weren't always on a ticking clock. The issues are namely player/character oriented.
Scenes that stick out are Fearne and FCG's run-in with Otohan and the constant and just not sincere God debate circling. I'm in the midst of Imogen talking to her mom and finally asking real questions, so I'll put a pin in all those repetitive lost opportunities depending on if Matt rewards that or if there's a roll outcome.
And that's kind of where I feel it doubles down on some of the worst aspects of C2. Character traits flanderized that feel counter to their situation, circling the same arguments despite new information or resolutions/understandings established previously, and what feels like active avoidance. Those moments are small in the grand scheme, but for whatever reason they stick out.
On the flip end, I really like where Taliesin has brought Ashton. I'm also curious with what is going on with Laudna's situation and how that will play out with everyone else as that becomes more apparent to them.
Huge gimme from Matt but he kind of owed em after that fight was just stacked shit on piss lol Girl was juiced up hard
Orym has got to be screwed or at the very least it'll become a wash if Fearne gets up in the Hags face a bit lol Nana would probably weave some "you gotta stay friends/bodyguard my daughter wherever she goes" which he'd be down for anyways. He's gonna be a debbie downer for a hoooooot minute lol
Best part about this episode is that we get to see a new Sam character sooner rather than later! I'm assuming someone who is part of the resistance on the moon that they can befriend in the transition/recovery period they'll be in the next few weeks. If it's another healer I expect it'll be as broken as possible at doing the job but I wouldn't be surprised if he went like Artificer, either. FCG was fun in the RP but kind of meh in survival despite all the crazy clutch plays he could build into an encounter.
Also really funny to know the look on Sam's face leading up to that turn was him doing calculus but not for dice numbers, sightlines, dmg type or distance, but for whether or not he could get Matt on the hook enough to cry/let him just exchange his life for killing this boss completely out of ass LoL insane pull
They still seem really unsure and scatterbrained no matter how long they have for prep. it's great and it's horrible at the same time!
I fucking love Travis to death but the man has been laying his amazement at everything on the table was a lil thick this ep. I shouldn't talk shit though cause he was in a great mood and absolutely crawling up the walls when everything was going down and then was on point and STILL faster with his decisions on his turn than the rest of the team lol
He literally only breaks when they're shopping for too long. What a champion. I'm curious how he's gonna play Chet after that fight....
Fearne/Laudna/Imogen are gonna be sad sad but distracted - Right when Matt was first starting to mention Otto poppin up behind em, I was wondering if mum and her whole talk was a plant for them to remember to use her. She wouldn't Kill Ottohan, so they'd have to deal with her later and maybe it gets an NPC killed but bam they're outta this one. Or they stay and leave mom out of it and maybe manage to kill her for good.
Conversation with mom should be juiced now. Laura will lay it on thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Tal was doing basically what he could (eventually) but really should have been up in her shit immediately and permanently. The allure of those chaos weirdboy changes get in his way but once he was like "Oh fuck." he seemed to start trying to put in work!
They better pick up that backpack...
Pretty dang good episode - didn't even mention all the sapper work that made up the whole first chunk. That whole chunk with Ash, FCG and Fearne directly after the pop off I was just shaking my head wondering why girl was not helping them gtfo! Fly you fool! Or dig or whatever, GO! lol Cutting from team MIssion Impossible deceiving their way through crowds and literally being invisible to Ashton knocking over houses and the throat noises of that turkey dragon thing was hilarious.
Sam stays winning
Orym has got to be screwed or at the very least it'll become a wash if Fearne gets up in the Hags face a bit lol Nana would probably weave some "you gotta stay friends/bodyguard my daughter wherever she goes" which he'd be down for anyways. He's gonna be a debbie downer for a hoooooot minute lol
Best part about this episode is that we get to see a new Sam character sooner rather than later! I'm assuming someone who is part of the resistance on the moon that they can befriend in the transition/recovery period they'll be in the next few weeks. If it's another healer I expect it'll be as broken as possible at doing the job but I wouldn't be surprised if he went like Artificer, either. FCG was fun in the RP but kind of meh in survival despite all the crazy clutch plays he could build into an encounter.
Also really funny to know the look on Sam's face leading up to that turn was him doing calculus but not for dice numbers, sightlines, dmg type or distance, but for whether or not he could get Matt on the hook enough to cry/let him just exchange his life for killing this boss completely out of ass LoL insane pull
They still seem really unsure and scatterbrained no matter how long they have for prep. it's great and it's horrible at the same time!
I fucking love Travis to death but the man has been laying his amazement at everything on the table was a lil thick this ep. I shouldn't talk shit though cause he was in a great mood and absolutely crawling up the walls when everything was going down and then was on point and STILL faster with his decisions on his turn than the rest of the team lol
He literally only breaks when they're shopping for too long. What a champion. I'm curious how he's gonna play Chet after that fight....
Fearne/Laudna/Imogen are gonna be sad sad but distracted - Right when Matt was first starting to mention Otto poppin up behind em, I was wondering if mum and her whole talk was a plant for them to remember to use her. She wouldn't Kill Ottohan, so they'd have to deal with her later and maybe it gets an NPC killed but bam they're outta this one. Or they stay and leave mom out of it and maybe manage to kill her for good.
Conversation with mom should be juiced now. Laura will lay it on thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Tal was doing basically what he could (eventually) but really should have been up in her shit immediately and permanently. The allure of those chaos weirdboy changes get in his way but once he was like "Oh fuck." he seemed to start trying to put in work!
They better pick up that backpack...
Pretty dang good episode - didn't even mention all the sapper work that made up the whole first chunk. That whole chunk with Ash, FCG and Fearne directly after the pop off I was just shaking my head wondering why girl was not helping them gtfo! Fly you fool! Or dig or whatever, GO! lol Cutting from team MIssion Impossible deceiving their way through crowds and literally being invisible to Ashton knocking over houses and the throat noises of that turkey dragon thing was hilarious.
Sam stays winning
I don't think it was as it seems he messed up on her healing potion (pretty sure it's impossible for it to roll that high even if she just auto maxes it and he probably added the +20 twice). So was probably enough to kill without that or close enough that might as well.
He was doing 20d4+20 as a homebrew item. https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1778679924838355260?t=7EUlkYwS19dDG4CTwcjYfQ&s=19
I didn't even think that if Sam shows up with a new character in the next few episodes they will likely be someone from the moon, that's actually interesting enough to compete with a robot, if not more.
Yeah I really hope it is a moon race. I wonder if he will back in next episode, usually they skip an episode or 2 after a death, but I have a feeling the party will be racing to get back to Exandria next episode.
Since the boss had full damage resistance going, having it be a custom healing item with allot of extra healing was a pretty crap move to his players... He knew going in that the players would already be down hp / spell slots before it ever began, I just felt that the combat encounter was way overtuned. It would have been especially ridiculous if the players hadn't quickly eliminated the backpack.
Oh that explains it and is pretty funny. I might steal that if I ever have a boss fight drink a health potion. You can't really put a value on the psychological damage just rolling way too many dice can do in the middle of a fight. That + the half all damage is real brutal though.
I mean even if he was using a stat-block right out of the book to whoop on em it's still a gimme to just out of hand say "Ok" to someone dunking 20 D8 into your boss. I'm guessing he realized about halfway through that he maybe turned the nob a little hard on this fight. Like why not allow Chet to sacrifice himself to a flurry of wolven shit and roll 20D8? Maybe Laudna can death scream and get a free power word kill? Imogen also explodes but purple, 20D8!
Handing stuff like that out isn't really something most DMs do and even Matt who is deeeeeep in the faith of RP and will bend the whole world to a nice piece of narrative cake, doesn't usually just allow his players to make up stuff that their PCs can do LoL
All that said - if they were gonna get absolutely throttled and just barely scrape by with one FOR SURE character loss, i don't hate that it's FGC. Sam will be having fun with a new sheet and i'm sure that'll be obvious when it airs and Letters got to go out with a bang. Not the worst out a DM has given their group!
FCG being a bomb was something that was established as a possibility like 60 episodes ago. Like it absolutely didn't come out of nowhere.
I'll put it like this - it's not on his sheet, ya know? Travis even asked Matt right then and there and Sam was like "no it's not a thing i'm just asking" and Matt is over there like "we're doing this off the cuff..."
He had to decide how many dice of what kind he was gonna give him. A passing comment from one of them that's like "what if you exploded!?!" while they're all laughing and talking about his stress is not the same as having something that's going to do crazy damage to a boss in your hour of need, sitting in your back pocket. Sam didn't know if Matt would let that happen or not. Matt didn't make him roll for if he exploded or not. He hadn't technically taken any type of death saves, wasn't technically "dead" or anything like that. He's been knocked out before and didn't incinerate half the Inn they were staying in...
If you think that was a totally legit game process and not a complete handout from Matt because of the situation and narrative of a sacrifice being good DnD we'll prob just have to disagree about it :-D
Is Chet possibly dying in his sleep on his sheet? I also somehow doubt it.
It wasn't a passing comment it was when Joe was looking at his core, Matt made it very clear to Sam at the time he could blow himself up if he wanted, he just obviously didn't think he actually would which is why he didn't have anything wrote for it, but it wasn't some ass pull. FCGs core being a bomb was established (presumably all of his race have that option).
I dunno, I think he knows his players well enough that they were down for it. That's all that really matters. I pull shit like that with my players from time to time and they always enjoy the curveballs. I also make it pretty clear that if my NPCs can do something, then there's nothing stopping the players from acquiring the same abilities (although it may require time, gold, etc.).
Like i said - no dice hit the table to decide if this thing that by all accounts should have happened before in the same circumstance was gonna happen now. I'm not saying it was an ass-pull out of nowhere idea i'm saying just being like "What if i kill myself and just WANT to blow up, is that enough?" and Matt going, yup! was the gift.
we don't have to agree on it my dude.
But you're right that we can assume any other gold floating city robots we see with a similar arcane core can go nova if their core is hit by a half decent guiding bolt LoL
I would not keep these guys in my house to serve tea or whatever! It's like in fallout how everyone has a mini nuke parked in the driveway but doesn't give a fuck