Honestly, if they can't delist it without delisting it on both generation stores, they still should be pulling it.
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Honestly, if they can't delist it without delisting it on both generation stores, they still should be pulling it.
Yes, CDP just confirmed that in their letter to investors.
If anything it's a massive step-back from where it would have been (for CDPR as a company at least). Not only has it taken a massive blow to their reputation with console manufacturers and potentially exposed them to legal challenges, but they've almost certainly taken a significant hit to what they'd originally made through pre-orders (which, if they'd delayed, would be relatively intact unless they cancel it); the ramifications on the stock price is also going to be large.
There's an apparent bug that forces the game to hang for a minute.
Yeah I think it's good at least the PS4 and PS5 owners who still want to play it and who are worried about how updates will work can still look forward to them.
Personally, I'm glad I held off on purchasing. But this response is unprecedented.
It was, multiple times. At a certain point more time won't fix it. I wonder if this is just as good as it could get on PS4/Xbox One.
So 8 million preorders, 42% on consoles = 3.36 million.
Presuming a 2:1 split between PS and Xbox would be 1.68 million ps4 versions.
At $60 US a game that's ~$100 million is refunds.
This is just a guess as it doesn't take into account digital/physical spit, purchases made without preordering, and regional prices.
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Presuming a 2:1 split between PS and Xbox would be 1.68 million ps4 versions.
At $60 US a game that's ~$100 million is refunds.
This is just a guess as it doesn't take into account digital/physical spit, purchases made without preordering, and regional prices.
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There many broken games are on both systems' storefronts, even triple A ones. The difference one makes a refund process doable, the other puts a one time restriction and that's it. Did you know you can cancel a pre order with no problem on Xbox but on PlayStation you have to go through hoops and hurdles
Just seeing this now and it's absolutely unprecedented. We'll all remember this. Videogame history right here. I've never seen, not a franchise, but a game company, throw away so much goodwill capital like this. Just right in the fire with CDPR. It's not like they make 30 other games they can lean back on. This was it.
Delisted? Jesus, that's such a monumental fuckup by CDPR. They made their devs crunch relentlessly for this? Greed.
It's definitely more flexible than Sony's system but there have been people who have reported issues with with getting refunds from MS.
Well to be fair, buggy and broken games haven't been delisted before. Sony kept Skyrim for sale on PS3 for example. CDPR had every reason to believe that they could get away with it because neither Sony nor Microsoft have taken such drastic actions with big AAA games in the past.
Maybe he realizes the crunch at CDPR isn't going to end anytime soon.
I've had people I know get refunds denied for Cyberpunk after playing 3 hours of the game. They, Epic, Valve and CDPR themselves need to do the same asap because this is a big mess.
Didnt they release a CyberPunk themed Xbox? It would be... interesting to have a themed console where the game didnt end up coming out on said console LOL
He said "surprisingly well". Which to me didn't instill much confidence about the game's perfomance, but it turned out to be even worse than I expected. I believe he was careful how to word it, something running "surprisingly well" doesn't really translate to something running great. But it also avoids saying the truth, that it runs like shit if at all.
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Holy shit wow. Never thought Sony would pull a move like that. Can't say I'm mad! I was so hyped for this game over a year ago, but they just make it easier and easier to ignore
I saw things in the IGN PS4/XBO review that I've never seen in 57 hours in the PC version. Talking about AI failure stuff here.
The game runs fine on PS5 though and you can't buy it anymore if you own a PS5. You can't delist the game on Xbox and leave it just for Series consoles because there isn't a Series specific version in regards to a SKU.
Cool. Don't let the PS4 version back on the store unless they can turn it into a playable product.
Feel bad for the devs that probably saw this coming with management's rush to get it out and they'll have to keep crunching to get it back in as good of a shape as they can.
It's funny because there are many games that are much more broken than Cyberpunk on PSN. Remember Life of Black Tiger, the game Sony actively hosted a trailer for on their channel?
I agree, I am just following the ''But MS has a good refund system'' line.
agreed on that, I was more on the end result to release schedule. they should have used ms flight sim strat of pc first 6 month to a year nextgen.
MS refund system is automatic, that's why works well. But the same system can't deal with refunds that don't follow the rules it has. If I remember, if you played the game for 2 hours and earn one achievement, the system will refuse your refund. In this situation in question, I believe you can refund even if you finished the game. Anyway, the biggest issue would be selling a broken game to the majority of their userbase that still has Xone S or even base Xboxes.
I wish I remember more about what the WWE 2K20 refund circus was like. I know I got one from Sony, and a ton of other people got one too, but it wasn't this dramatic and it was never delisted. That game was very crashy on every platform, especially on the customization side, but it was overall a less broken game than this is, obviously with much lower expectations too.
Is there another comparable for a broken, modern AAA game from a big deal publisher?
Is there another comparable for a broken, modern AAA game from a big deal publisher?
Why don't they still have it on the store with a warning about the issues. I know some people that still want to buy it (some PS5 owners I know). I have 15 hours into the game on PS5 and have had zero crashes. I know that others have, but would it not be wiser to leave that decision up to the consumer? I love that they offering refunds to people no question, but there are a lot of people that still want to buy it and there are people that bought the Digital Edition of the PS5 that don't have a way to get it otherwise.
They have Smart Delivery and the game isn't completely broken on Series X/S.
They also have a proper automated refund policy so no need to delist it.
Because you're making the issue about "Oh you made us look bad! Time to punish you for calling us out!", when in fact the likeliest scenario is "You want us to handle all this immense influx of refund requests? Fine, let's talk numbers and compensation".
I've worked in a big company locally overseeing different products and processes, shit's not as childish-sounding as the first scenario.
Wouldn't be surprised Sony doesn't want anymore CDPR Games on their consoles, what they did looks pretty bad for a company, especially a Japanese one, like Sony
Same. The game looks good on PS5. But it still crashes like every hour. Definitely not worth the $60.
It's like when people do a charge back and get banned.
CDProj did s shitty one and sony took away their privileges lol
