Yeah, I adored the set of mini games throughout Rebirth. Even the ones I don't like still add a lot of personality and flavor to the world. I'd much rather have them there than for them not to be there, y'know?
True, but as others have pointed out, Persona is on the way up and Final Fantasy is on the way down. And that over 7 million doesn't include a single Game Pass player, either. We can assume that they've built up a sizable, hungry fanbase through that offering similar to how Like a Dragon paved a way for Infinite Wealth. And if it's a global release on all platforms on launch day ... forget about it. Persona 6 is gonna make 5's sales look small.
Isn't this including all the spinoffs? Pretty sure it is.
Was there ever a JRPG series besides Pokemon or FF that was doing 8-10 million in sells? The problem is that FF was basically the king of the genre for so long, so when it's in a rough spot, it feels like JRPGs in general are in a rough spot.
PS4 version FF7 REMAKE already became free game of PLUS. And PS5 version is in library of PLUS EXTRA.
It is important to note that the 7 million is P5 and P5R combined.
Salary in Japan is lower than US and YEN exchange rate is very low. I doubt REBIRTH cost is high. Maybe in the range of $50~100 million.
Original player base may be up to 20 million, and I agree that part of the 20 million players have PS5.
Pokemon is such a unique phenomenom with such a strong idea "the whole catching/collection aspect" that the continuing appeal across generations sells itself. There really isn't a form of media in the world that has such an ability to sell itself as Pokemon.
In what world is an 88 Opencritic score "mixed"?? I didn't like XVI as much as I thought I would, but it's definitely not mixed lol. Of the people who played it, always seemed like it was praised by most.
You're just straight up not going to get shorter than four years unless these games are being worked on concurrently with entirely separate staff.
KH was already an annualized release series for almost around a decade and a half until Melody of Memory which was around 3 1/2 years ago.
I mean, remake sold a ton and it has what most normal people think of when they think of FF7- cloud/barret/tifa/aerith, midgar, and a final fight against sephiroth with one winged angel blaring in the background
I 100% agree. I started with 5 in 1992 and things have changed way too drastically for the IP to be healthy nowadays. Back then, mainline releases were frequent. And though tone, setting etc could differ vastly from one entry to an other, they still had some things in common like being a rpg with worldmap, towns, party members etc and pushing the envelope. Things started to shift more during the ps2 era, but you could still feel you were playing a FF rpg. And then, entries release schedule became way too sparse (even considering development cycles being longer) and on the top of that the IP lost all sense of identity gameplay wise from one entry to another. It is incredibly not healthy
Honestly, Final Fantasy could scale back the graphics drastically and your average fan wouldn't care one bit. People just want fun fantasy adventures filled with mainstay elements that span the entire series. Just because you've got a reputation for pushing the graphics as far as you can doesn't mean that's what brings people in the door.
That might have more to do with the nature of the sequel.
Yup, could be said for the whole industry, tbh. Feels like there's a reckoning concerning this just waiting to happen, FF being one of the best examples.
So explain how in the 2024 financials, with both FFXVI (> 3 million sales) and FFVII Rebirth (> 2 million sales) released within the year's window, their HD game releases made a loss of over 50 million dollars? That's double the amount of loss in 2023 when they did not even have these big titles.
PalWorld doesnt have turnbased combat.
Thing is tho… not only with FF7 but a lot of the industry games
I mean XV was a brand new game while VII Rm was not.
Oh I fully think Part 3 needs to finish what they started.
Those games are wildly different from each other though. I'm not expecting P6 to shake up things that much. Sure anything could go wrong with sells, but Persona as been on an upward trend since P3 and there really isn't anything that suggests that things won't be similar for P6.
If it can expand on the team aspect of it all instead of the one man show that is Clive
True, but I didn't mean only part 3! Altho it's a special thing right with the Remakes. But lets see its also below FF16 graphics wise?
You're not wrong on that. We've been chasing the bleeding edge of graphics and performance since forever and we're seeing the end result of that chase with all of these layoffs and all of these companies selling millions of copies of their games still taking a financial beating. It takes an eternity to make games these days and those costs balloon with how much bigger they want to make them and it's like cool you sold 2 million copies, but you're still in the red.
That's hard disagree from me. Especially if we're comparing them to Persona games.
Rebirth is already doing this. It is decidedly last-gen when it comes to graphics tech. It still has a lot of effort and budget poured into that, but they definitely sacrificed fidelity to prioritize other things. The biggest resources sink is cut scenes, and I do not see them holding back on those and it can be argued that high quality cut scenes are as much a defining feature of these games as moogles or chocobos.
