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Dark Souls Switch still suffers with Compressed Audio
- Thread starter Heazy
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If this brings you from a preorder to a wait-and-see (like myself), it's not like the game won't still be available for purchase if they announce a fix. Preorders aren't a necessity.
They should instead throw money at a game that has bad word of mouth, a game that is not going to run short in stock? Yup, make sense, let's lol at people not wanting to throw money at a game until they see some better reviews and reactions.
Consumers don't have an obligation to give a company money when they make a possibly subpar product, if it is indeed a misunderstanding, then it's on FROM to clarify it and restore our confidence, not our responsibility to blindly throw money at them, because SOUlsbuunnneee.
Considering that we're entering busiest part of the year in terms of games release, I wouldn't blame anyone to put this on lower priority list.
My interest got back up thanks to demo playing well in handheld and thinking that audio compression was just for the demo, but now I'm going to take a wait and see approach as well.
My interest got back up thanks to demo playing well in handheld and thinking that audio compression was just for the demo, but now I'm going to take a wait and see approach as well.
I think this is similar to when a game dips by like 3 frames and people then claim the game has "framerate issues".
I somewhat agree, theres alot of hyperbole surrounding games, lose some frames? GAME IS UNPLAYABLE etc.
What if 100% of the game had framerate issues? Because this seems like it will affect all audio in the game, and it sounds truly low quality.
That's called bad framepacing, and it's here.
This is a bit of a bugger, but it's not a huge deal. For audiophiles sure, and for framerate-obsessives like me the framepacing is a bit of a kick in the nuts... But the majority of people just don't care. They're happy with £50 headphones and 1080p TVs, and honestly it's just tough to get too worked up about this kind of thing.
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Doesn't need to be patched in, you can remap buttons in game, unlike the network test where it was greyed out.
Not according to the chap from Gamexplain. Still greyed out in his code he said in another thread.
Oh, and it's an iPhone 7 to whoever asked. No idea if mono or stereo speakers.
Some people appear to be listening to the audio with a baked bean can and a piece of string. ;)
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First thing I did was swap the A/B buttons around. Promise you, its there.
Have you watched the recently uploaded comparison video in the first post of this thread? The difference is striking.
The DS sound is apparently just as bad whether docked or undocked.
it's puzzling how they aren't offering an audio download for those that want full audio quality.
there's reasons to make the quality cut to fit on the cart but the option to download better quality audio should be there for those that don't want a tradeoff.
there's reasons to make the quality cut to fit on the cart but the option to download better quality audio should be there for those that don't want a tradeoff.
It'll be the first thing I do when I get my copy
on my birthday
Watched the video in OP. By Gwyn, that audio quality is even worse than I thought. Whoever made it has gone to great lengths to make sure it has zero dynamic range, low bitrate and is actually even clipping. This is totally unacceptable and if this is not fixed in the final release then I'm not even going to bother buying this.
As much as I would like a mobile Dark Souls game, if the game has this bad audio, how badly are the other aspects of it done?
As much as I would like a mobile Dark Souls game, if the game has this bad audio, how badly are the other aspects of it done?
listen on actual speakers...
for the millionth time in this thread: it has nothing to do with file size
Sorry but ...
Seriously, guys. We're talking about audio quality here. And you're trying to comment after listening through fucking PHONE SPEAKERS ....I wanna die.
for any one who is saying they can't hear the difference, did you play the network test?
it's not a little different, it's grating and hostile.
it's not a little different, it's grating and hostile.
Or did they even watch the video in the first post of this very thread? If so, and assuming they still hear no difference, did they watch it on a potato? :)
I say this based on the fact that I can clearly hear the awful audio on my PC and that's nothing special, no surround sound, no flashy top of the range audio chip, just stereo sound and some average headphones.
Or they could simple use 8GB card like other Switch devs if that really is issue, or they can simple release day one patch that solves this problem.
Blaming Nintendo for sound issues of this games dont make sense, why Nintendo games dont have sound issues or any other 3rd party game outside of this game?
Of Course you can, why other Switch devs are using 8GB cards or dont have sound issues with their Switch games?
This problem is 100% responsibility of dev, and we can only hope they will release patch for this problem.
Not really, in N64 you didn't had patches and updates, now you do, they can easily solve this problem by a single patch.
He is right, technically this also is remaster of PS3/360 game, this game runs at 1080p on Switch so that alone can qualify Switch version like remaster, but also has 1-6 online players compared to 1-4 players on PS3/360, you also have more stable frame rate and probably some other improvments under hood (outside sound, lol).
When I listen on my cell phone I can't hear a difference. When I played the network test on my tv and sound bar I knew right away that something was horribly wrong with the audio.
Woah there, nice try. I am perfectly happy with my 1080p panny plasma, and you can get good headphones for £50.
Next level stealth elitism there.
Yes. There are lot of old Panasonic/Pioneer 1080p plasmas that are superior TVs than half the 4K sets that are considered "good" these days. Similarly the right pair of 50 pound headphones can already sound 1000 times better than TV speakers.
Pretty much. It constantly baffles me how low people's standards are when it comes to audio.
Cell phone speakers. Never playing the original game for comparison. Not playing the network test.
I'm hoping these three excuses cover everyone. I'd like to imagine people wouldn't troll a thread like this, but I also wouldn't be surprised if some were.
It's very obvious whenever there is voice so much that you should be able to tell no matter what, unfortunately the video in OP cut out most of the parts that had voice. For example, in the music during asylum demon fight it's very obvious how poor the sound is on switch. In every other effect it's also worse and stereo imaging is severely cut down overall as well so much that directions are not clear.
Thanks Nintendo is literally the Thanks Obama of gaming. The game having horribly compressed sound, or whatever makes it so bad, is 100% on the developer of the game.
Why are people trying to tell audio quality on the crappiest common type of speaker?
And you shouldn't need to have heard the original. It's compressed audio. Like what?
Seriously people.
Yeah I will say the clip has...not a lot of sound to really show off the compression. Anything remotely complicated would show it off better.
I played the test and it was so jarring to me as someone who has lived and breathed Souls games since the start. The moment I pressed the first button on the main menu it sounded off, bothered me the whole time. I'm no crazy audio guy by any means but it was some 1997 Real Player 56k modem streaming version sounded crap.
Assumed it was just because of the test.... if that actually isn't the case wow they dun goofed. :|
Assumed it was just because of the test.... if that actually isn't the case wow they dun goofed. :|
To be clear, he said you could swap them for the in game roll/activate functions but not for the menu cancel/confirm functions. Do both of those options now work for you?
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Do you know what, I can't actually remember. I'll check in on that when I get home from work.
Did Virtuous handle FFIX? Cause FFIX had bad audio for ages on PC until it got fixed
Are you joking? I use headphones included with my phone, and I have a 1080p TV. I'm part of the people who won't spend out the nose for the best audio/picture available. The fact of the matter is, most people don't care about the best picture or sound, and beyond that, most people won't notice a couple of dropped frames or poorer audio.
Are you saying most people out there don't think 1080p is enough? There's quite a lot of market research to show that the average consumer thinks just that. If you really think most game consumers sit around talking about framepacing, I don't know what to tell you, chief.
I thought this thread was about the crappy audio in Dark Souls. Why are you blathering on about 1080p TV's?
If you're not going to read what I've said, stop stamping around looking for a fight. Take care.
Stamping around? I just don't understand the connection you're making between 1080p being the most common display for gamers and Dark Souls having crappy audio. Are you trying to say that because not everybody is an visual/audiophile, this is somehow acceptable? I mean do you have any receipts that prove that majority of gamers are using low end audio gear?
I don't know about you but I can tell this audio quality is terrible using both mid-range headphones and my crappy $15 PC speakers. Just how low are we setting the bar here?
Erm, I think you've misread a few posts. And using phone headphones for gaming is not a proud boast. You weren't kidding about not spending.
Ah that's a shame, it was really noticeable in the network test. I will have to skip this one then, I was already on the fence about it honestly.