It's a tonally very strange movie. It tries to sell itself as serious, realistic, similar to a western, far from what makes comics "ridiculous", and suddenly the big villain of the movie is an evil clone of Logan. There's also the whole "soda caused mutant genocide" thing. Like, those are two ideas that would fit in a Deadpool movie, not what Logan wanted to be.
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Deadpool & Wolverine | Official Trailer | July 26 | Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman
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I'm expecting a fairly fun popcorn flick. Nothing amazing and the premise deserves a better director than Levy, though he's workmanlike in his approach he's like Webb of the Holland Spider-Man films - just nothing special.
Trailer was pretty good. Agree with comments about it being filtered - colours seem muted. Wolverines yellow and Deadpools red should 'pop' and they really don't.
Don't expect it to beat Deadpool 1 as a movie - that thing was a tight, leanly directed piece that straddled the fine line between emotional narrative with a decent progression and Reynolds' brand of humour.
Jackman and Reynolds seem to see this as a labour of love and they've earned enough goodwill to enjoy it with them.
Trailer was pretty good. Agree with comments about it being filtered - colours seem muted. Wolverines yellow and Deadpools red should 'pop' and they really don't.
Don't expect it to beat Deadpool 1 as a movie - that thing was a tight, leanly directed piece that straddled the fine line between emotional narrative with a decent progression and Reynolds' brand of humour.
Jackman and Reynolds seem to see this as a labour of love and they've earned enough goodwill to enjoy it with them.
I don't remember the first film being this flatly lit for the most part. Also, I'm sure it cost about a quarter of this film.
I guess it does work as a teaser in the sense that it doesn't really give anything away but tonally the trailer was very odd. It was like it was trying to combine the lightness of Deadpool with the seriousness of Logan, often in the same scene and in the brief snippets shown it stands out.
As I say though it is only a teaser so I'm not assuming that it's in any way indicative of the final film.
As I say though it is only a teaser so I'm not assuming that it's in any way indicative of the final film.
(My post isn't about you, I am just using it as a reference to make a broader point).
That thread encapsulated everything that frustrates me about superhero film discussions on Era. Some people dislike the genre (or Marvel in particular) so much that they will not acknowledge anything positive about them under any circumstances. We love to talk about media literacy and we make fun of people who miss obvious themes and arcs, yet Era's own media literacy flies out the window as soon as a superhero film is mentioned.
This phenomenon has never been more evident than in the discussions about No Way Home. In my opinion, it is blatantly obvious that some posters decided that the film was just fan service before watching even a single second of it. Despite the film's main story and theme being quite strong, despite the fact that the multiverse characters were not just cameos but they were integrated into the story in a way that supported and furthered its message, some people will still bang the drum that the film was just fan service. So any sort of discussion about the film's actual flaws and issues becomes impossible.
The pistol reload shot in the first teaser is pretty great though
Expecting to enjoy this as much as the first two (particularly the second), pretty much the only MCU movie I'm looking forward to at the moment.
Yeah, just how dour and self-serious it was with what seemed to be contempt for the very concept of superhero comics, the evil clone Logan out of nowhere, having that family on the farm killed off to show how evil the villains were, mass market GMO foods being what wiped out nearly all of the mutants... very much agreed in hating that movie.
The MCU needing to be saved is some of the most hyperbolic shit I've read on the internet. Especially when the movies in general have a high batting average.
I just think that specific plotline is pretty damn stupid 😭 I guess it is her.
It's stupid but imo the whole Madelyne Prior thing is dumb too, and yet they made it work in x men 97 somehow
Looks like Ollie Palmer of Reynolds' Wrexham has possibly a very quick cameo in the trailer
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Ryan Reynolds confirms Wrexham star's hidden cameo in background of Deadpool 3
The Hollywood star released the new highly-anticipated theatrical trailer for the third instalment of the Deadpool series, "Deadpool and Wolverine"
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I genuinely believe NWH has one of the worst scripts in the entire MCU up to this point. It's a feverish mess of ideas, none of which actually work in isolation, burdened by an overabundance of characters and an absolute dearth of characterization. Yes, all of the actors (except Tobey) are having fun, but that doesn't matter if all of their personal arcs could be contained within 2 minutes of screen time. And so much of the movie is predicated on every single character from Peter to Strange to the villains being gigantic idiots.
It's just an extremely messy film, and despite waiting a full year after release to watch it so I wouldn't be prone to snap-hating it due to my frustration with nerd hype culture, I found it one of the least enjoyable films in that universe I've seen in a long, long time. It's not Quantumania-level awful - the presence of Molina and Dafoe is enough to keep it out of that pit - but it's not that far above it.
It is undoubtedly messy and it has various other issues, some of which can be attributed to covid messing up the MCU's release schedule and forcing extensive rewrites and/or troubled shooting. We can talk about all of that, I would be very happy to. But it is not going to happen as long as people pretend that there was no story, there were no characters and the whole film is just fan service, as the bare minimum for a meaningful discussion is good faith from all involved parties.
For me it was easily one of the best MCU experiences I had on theaters together with endgame
Such a BLAST of a movie throughout
If Deadpool 3 is anywhere near the fun of that damn I am in for a treat!
Then maybe you can explain to me why a thread full of "wow this looks great" is valuable but one comment of "huh they're not really selling me here" is problematic enough for people to argue with me about it.
I decided that it was mostly fan service after watching it, not before. And I didn't even dislike it, but one fan service movie goes a long way for me.
wow. well if that is the case then I guess from a narrative standpoint, it's more like a BvS situation since that itself wasn't the sequel to MoS even though it was the following film. that means that even though on paper/contractual purposes this may be Deadpool 3, by that logic it would also have to be Wolverine 4.Shawn Levy did say recently that they don't consider it Deadpool 3.
DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Is Not DEADPOOL 3, Says Director Shawn Levy
Wade and Logan, together again at last. Here is everything we know about their reunion in the upcoming MCU film Deadpool & Wolverine.nerdist.com
No worries, it won't be the last time you see him. So mask away!
Agreed in every way.
At this point we're at the "Bitch eating crackers" stage of super hero film discourse.
I mean, Reynolds and Jackman are gonna carry this movie for sure, but why is it so ugly?
Like there's absolutely no attempt whatsoever at doing some proper cinematography or something
Like there's absolutely no attempt whatsoever at doing some proper cinematography or something
There is plenty of valid crap to complain about with the MCU, but you don't think it is ridiculous to go into a thread and see a bunch of people claiming they think a thing looks bad/dumb because of things that are unfounded
I wholeheartedly agree. It is even more frustrating when people's complaints are founded on false beliefs that only serve to give them a vehicle to rag on these films without any further critical insight.
Like, I'm not happy with the MCU right now, but I'm not judging an entire 2 hour+ film on carefully curated scenes from fairly early scenes meant to obscure the full scope of the film, or look at the use of profanity as some sign of the worst when the trailers for previous Deadpool films have been exactly like this before.
I don't want people to give this film overwhelming praise, but to at least look at what they are saying with a more critical lens, or do a little research before confidently saying false information?
I really feel like we could be having great discussions about how concerning it is to see Vanessa potentially sidelined again, or there is a very strong lack of supporting female characters on Deadpool's side at the moment, the cinematography or any number of issues that are present from the trailers alone.
Are you implying that movie masks and costumes can't be goofy in the year 2024?
Because it's a Shawn Levy movie. Free Guy had the same look.
I guess this has already been asked, but is this the same Wolverine from the Logan movie or a different version?
We don't know but it seems likely it is a different one, just with some similarities to the one we know.
I appreciate that it seems like everything we are seeing is from the first 20-30 minutes of the movie. I do not need to watch anymore trailers.
Haven't seen it, but that's a shame.
Annoying that most MCU movies are cursed with cheap, boring and lifeless looking visuals
Between the trailer and what Ryan Reynolds said about this movie not touching what happened in Logan, it sounds like it'll be a completely different Wolverine.
As someone who grew up well passed that era, seeing Jackman in the costume doesn't really do much for me (the fact that it took so long to get a costumed Wolverine at all is dumb though).
The mask is what makes the costume.
The mask is what makes the costume.