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Death of a Game: Battlefield 2042

Saucycarpdog

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Death of a Game: Battlefield 2042
2:42 The Story Begins
7:00 Gameplay Trailers
10:54 Game Mode 1
11:25 Game Mode 2
12:10 Game Mode 3
15:25 Specialists System
18:35 BF2042 Launch
21:00 Missing Features
25:10 - Patch #1
26:02 - Patch #2
26:13 - Patch #3
27:25 - New Battlefield...again
28:00 - Tom Henderson Leak
32:00 - Core Game Design Issues
33:44 - Map Issues
40:37 - Uphill battle for Battlefield
41:34 - Final Deduction
 
j7vikes

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I will never understand how hitting the holiday window was more important than a 6 month or so delay to release a better game.
 
degauss

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Having played the beta right before launch, and the full game shortly after launch, there wasn't really a game to "die". There was 60% of what felt like a pre-alpha.
 
Dabanton

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j7vikes said:
I will never understand how hitting the holiday window was more important than a 6 month or so delay to release a better game.
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I guess the thinking goes most people will buy games for or around Christmas more than any other time of the year. These are the people who maybe buy less than 3 games a year. Or parents or family looking for presents for their kids etc

I'd rather have a delay so the game launches and retains its base, rather than launching half-assed and most people gone from the game within a month
 
LNBL

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I did not even finish the 10h EA play trial time, what a mess this game is. What a shame
 

terrible1fi

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all issues aside, the aiming/shooting on console feels awful, which is only made worse by having to go up against pc players who have laser accuracy across the map with a mouse
 
Kinthey

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degauss said:
Having played the beta right before launch, and the full game shortly after launch, there wasn't really a game to "die". There was 60% of what felt like a pre-alpha.
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I remember thinking "oh, this a real beta-beta with bugs and all, and not like other betas which are more like time limited demos". Turns out this buggy beta was perfectly reflective of the final product
 
j7vikes

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Dabanton said:
I guess the thinking goes most people will buy games for or around Christmas more than any other time of the year. These are the people who maybe buy less than 3 games a year. Or parents or family looking for presents for their kids etc

I'd rather have a delay so the game launches and retains its base, rather than launching half-assed and most people gone from the game within a month
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I feel like this is incredibly outdated thinking as numerous successful titles don't come out during the holiday window anymore. Combine that with the fact that DLC releases and microtransactions in successful multiplayer games can be where the real money is at and it makes even less sense.
 
Yerffej

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I was pumped when news was trickling out about it. Then seeing glimpses, I was like "...oh." Then playing the beta I was like"...oh fuck no."
 
FarSight XR-20

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Bring back BFV as Battlefield 1944 next-gen with the Eastern Front, Normandy and Berlin. That would be better than wasting time on 2042.
 

SecondNature

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Oct 25, 2017
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-How are you going to make a game full of heroes, when you have like 10 across 128 players. This alone is jarring. You're shooting your own clones. Couldn't even create faction specific characters. The bots look far more interesting

-Combining a serious topic like climate change with goofy ass characters shouting out things like they won a friendly laser tag tournament... just goes to show how incoherent this game was.

These two things ruined the game before you even got a chance to play it. And then when you play it, you realize how awful the hero mechanics are and how much more focused the game is on selling you cosmetics.
 
Nameless

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Oct 25, 2017
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On record in the Beta and early OT threads predicting the game would fail. No way it was overcoming the triple shit whammy of 1. Terrible core design decisions that run counter to what BF is, and what fans want from the series. 2. Poor overall game management and balancing (everything from borked crossplay implementation to broken vehicles & sensor mines). 3. The unpolished, unstable, jank state in which it launched.

It's a shame, because on a base level the sandbox is genuinely impressive, they just do fuck all with it.
 
Bardeh

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Jun 15, 2018
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Played the beta for an hour, and that was more than enough for me to know that the game was a complete disaster.

I'm still in disbelief that the game shipped with such an inexplicably bad UI. It was *horrendous*. I just fail to see how such a huge franchise with a massive budget can fail the absolute fundamentals like that.
 
hydruxo

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Played the beta with a group of friends who were all BF fans and were excited for 2042. We all deleted it after a few matches. Just a terrible experience all around. DICE has lost their touch for sure.
 
CloseTalker

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It's funny, because the prerelease hype for this was so strong. Dice was really saying all the right things, especially on a year where CoD looked pretty weak. Man, what a way to squander goodwill, and tank consumer trust for a good long time
 
Matrix XII

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Thankfully there was a demo. Something felt off about it so I didn't bite. Glad I didn't, seems like a mess.
 
DanielG123

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Just watched this about an hour ago, and yeah, it's honestly pretty fucking tragic, but could've been easily avoided, and is squarely on the shoulders of EA and Dice. Literally, unless 2042 can pull a No Man's Sky kind of miracle (which would be even HARDER to do, considering the franchise being long-standing, and the plethora of issues plaguing the game), then I can't see how it'll possibly come back from this.

I'm an optimist, and would love nothing more than to see this game rise from the ashes like a damn phoenix, but such a scenario seems so monumentally impossible right now, it's not even funny. BFV was killed for this, even when that game was finally on its way to becoming genuinely good, and so was Battlefront 2. Shame.
 
Klyka

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Both BF1 and BFV have higher peaks than 2042 on Steam.
BFV vastly so.

CloseTalker said:
It's funny, because the prerelease hype for this was so strong. Dice was really saying all the right things, especially on a year where CoD looked pretty weak. Man, what a way to squander goodwill, and tank consumer trust for a good long time
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I firmly remember being in the thread for that first big CGI trailer and saying that people really need to calm down their hype cause nothing in that trailer was actual gameplay and was pure bullshots and bullshit.
I got SHAT on by the community.
Lo and behold, once the actual game and gameplay was available, it all turned out to be true.
That's why CGI trailer are worthless.
 

gvst

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I wont play another battlefield game ever again as long as they stick to the "specialist".
 
Mr.Deadshot

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djplaeskool said:
There are a handful of other documented immediate crashes and burns in the video series, like APB or LawBreakers, but like, this is a Battlefield game, and the occasion here is noteworthy for many more reasons.
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What I meant was if this is the fastest the channel released a video between the release of the game and proclaiming its death.
APB took him over a year to do a video. Lawbreakers was released in April August and his video aired in March the following year. Battlefield 2042 was released in November and we are still in April right now.

Crucible might be the closest. It was released towards the end of May and his video went online at the beginning of November.
 
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Professor RAWR

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Jul 26, 2018
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Like others have said, i've also bought the Ultimate Edition and still regret it. Haven't played it since the week before Christmas. Planning to re-install it when Season 1 drops and see how much have changed.

I still remember when some Era members said the negative reactions are a "small minority". Oh boi... how wrong you guyz can be lmao.
 
Dysun

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All EA owned studios get ruined given enough time. Crazy to think this game is dead already compared to how alive BF4 was ~6 months after launch
 
djplaeskool

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Mr.Deadshot said:
What I meant was if this is the fastest the channel released a video between the release of the game and proclaiming its death.
APB took him over a year to do a video. Lawbreakers was released in April and his video aired in March the following year. Battlefield 2042 was released in November and we are still in April right now.

Crucible might be the closest. It was released towards the end of May and his video went online at the beginning of November.
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Ahh, true.
I suppose you can say you don't have to rely on hindsight or retrospective here.
The fire still burning and as the video notes, there's simply nothing on the roadmap for months
 
woolyninja

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Between this and Dying Light 2 I'm starting to think being a good friend and buying these games to play with my quick to preorder friend needs to stop. So underwhelmed by both
 
xtib81

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By far the worst BF I've ever played, and I played to Hardline, which says a lot.
Let it die and work on a new BF. And for fuck sake, listen to the community!!
 
FellowTarnished

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Going 64v64 with massive maps was their biggest mistake. As an infantry only player I don't enjoy spending 70% of my time running to an objective, only to be killed by a vehicle. The game also ran like shit as a result even on my RTX 3080. Plus when you did get those rare infantry battles they were a complete clusterfuck because of the increased player count.

The second biggest crime was those damn operators, oh my God they are ludicrous. Their cringe, out of place comments at the end of the match pulled me out of the game every time. They have no place in Battlefield, this isn't Apex. They should be removed entirely and replaced with the classic class system.

I honestly do not see the series ever recovering, who in their right mind will buy the next game? If they hope to salvage the franchise they need to take an extra year or two and have a long alpha and beta cycle where the community can give feedback and have it actually heard and implemented, a glorified demo will not do. If I can't play the game extensively before paying for it I just won't, they have lost my trust.
 
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