Twitter users malding over a review.
How lovely.
Also this.
Death Stranding - Review Thread (see staff post for discussion guidelines)
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Twitter users malding over a review.
How lovely.
Also this.
Yeah well this tweet cannot be taken serious. Hence I posted it.
I do think that it's funny video in a sense that I have never seen someone be this excited and hyped about game that combined walking sim, fetch quests and encumbrance.
Nobody is surprised, but it's a great video that encapsulates many of the reasons why the vast majority of reviews are so positive about the game.
Have you actually read any of the 44 different 90 and above reviews of the game? I'm talking the actual content of the reviews. Many are actually considerably more glowing, excited and hyped about the game than he is in the video, so the fact that you've never seen anyone else as excited about the game makes it seem as though you've only been reading or paying attention to the minority of negative impressions.
Neil Druckmann tweeted a friendly congratulatory message the other day, in which he says "...I love the feeling of exploration it creates -- the closest a game has felt to real hiking..." And the Dark1x/Digital Foundry video has some interesting notes on the traversal systems in the game, starting at the 9min6sec mark:
So out of curiosity, for folks reading the thread, are there any excerpts from reviews (written or video) that you think are particularly noteworthy/useful/insightful, on the subject of the traversal systems in Death Stranding? Either descriptions/analyses of how the systems work, or impressions/opinions on how the systems feel in practice. Positive or negative, would be curious to see.
So out of curiosity, for folks reading the thread, are there any excerpts from reviews (written or video) that you think are particularly noteworthy/useful/insightful, on the subject of the traversal systems in Death Stranding? Either descriptions/analyses of how the systems work, or impressions/opinions on how the systems feel in practice. Positive or negative, would be curious to see.
"Much more harrowing is delivering a fragile package over rough terrain, forcing you to a tense crawl, like the trucks delivering sensitive explosives over bumpy mountain roads in 1953 movie The Wages of Fear. […] This makes Death Stranding the best video game about hiking ever made."
I love these movies.
I love these movies.
Sadly I have not played any Kojima productions since MGS4. I shall reserve my judgement on this until I play it next year.
Well I know which ones I'm watching this week. 👍"Much more harrowing is delivering a fragile package over rough terrain, forcing you to a tense crawl, like the trucks delivering sensitive explosives over bumpy mountain roads in 1953 movie The Wages of Fear. […] This makes Death Stranding the best video game about hiking ever made."
I love these movies.
i mean maybe these aspects are done really well? tim rogers at kotaku (who loved the game) called it the gran turismo of walking simulators
Did you even watch the video or decide it was a great idea to call it content bias as a knee jerk reflex?
Calling other people kids is sure helping getting this false message across.
It will be insane if this game makes walking simulators mainstream and something few other AAA studios will pop out over next few years.
Sounds appealing to me but I think it would become as hated as the QTE after it was popularized by Yu Suzuki. You know… how can something that isn't gratifying violence, be worthwhile?
I've seen some takes that this game will influence traversal in future open world games, changing it from filler to engaging gameplay on its own. Remains to be seen if it'll happen.
Another take I've seen (which may also have been Tim Rogers, not sure) is that this game is Kojima closing out this decade of gameplay trends in a neat little package, combining walking as a central mechanic from walking simulators, with the crafting and survival of Minecraft and the online shared world features of Souls
It's meaningless. In the Giant Bomb Quick Look, Brad was able to give 474 likes to an item in under 15 seconds. That whole system sounds completely broken.
that is pretty cool meta dig at the (lack of) meaningfulness of social media engagement stats
I don't see how that makes it meaningless. From what I understood you don't gain anything with the likes, so it's not something that's exploitable, and if someone decided to give your structure extra likes, that certainly means something...
Not that it matters, but that tag is based on sales over the last 24 hours. It's very common for a game to hit number 1 on that chart at some point around it's release.
Doesn't seem like sales were affected by reviews at least.
I've seen multiple reviews state that it's actually currency that is used to purchase and upgrade items, you don't only get likes from other players but as a reward for completing missons from NPCs. The further the player has progressed in the game the more likes at once he can give to a structure. But to say any random number makes it exploitable is weird. It's a currency in a videogame which means it was somebody's job to balance those numbers and make it work into the progression of the game.
Is that the point of the system? Wouldn't it contradict the clear 'connection' theme of the game? I haven't played it, but this feels like a potentially odd equivocation.
I think peoples reaction when actually playing the game is far more important than the supposed verdict of history.
Quite. Time also distances people from the experience, meaning other factors come into play. Hindsight is infinitely more helpful than stupid hype, but it's not perfect.
How is it broken? Games must depict Facebook likes the same as the real world but must not depict carrying heavy packages over difficult terrain the same?
The ign review really did hurt the reception the reaction to the game would have been so much different
Their review text already gives a detailed reason why they gave it a 6.8. Not sure why you had to link to a thread of toxic fanboys.
Their opinion is very much in line with several other reputed reviewers.
People don't just like the video because its really positive about the game, they like it because it breaks down a lot of the elements, big and small, that make the game special and unique.
People are fucking stoked for the Microsoft Flight Simulator and its adherence to the reality of flying a plane. Farming Simulator is a million plus seller about doing farmwork without the veneer of a AAA powerhouse budget and graphics. Even fantastical games like Elite Dangerous can focus on "mundane" activities like shipping cargo from one place to another for a lot of people. I'm not sure why folks are surprised or confused that their is an audience for games that go in depth on the more everyday actions we take and gamify them when there are tons of games out there with ardent fanbases already doing that in some form or another.
It's a big sticking point for many casual players or those on the fence yes.
If that score came from some newspaper no one would really bat an eye.
Even a 7/10 wouldn't have caused as much drama.
Weirdly the review itself feels a lot more complimentary than some of the higher scoring reviews.
Yeah I know it is toxic. It is just bad how they argument why IGN gave this bad score.
that is on Amazon I take it? I preordered elsewhere.
Doesn't seem like sales were affected by reviews at least.
Yep. IGN is such a massive outlet that even if the game has gotten the most perfect scores of anything released this year it was always going to skew the discourse surrounding this game. A lot of people did not like it from the get go and even if it had gotten a +90 on meta they still would not have liked it, but IGN was the validation they needed.
Edge magazine would probably give even lower score based on comments, but sadly or fortunately the person won't finish it and won't give it a final score, so not gonna impact metacritic
Moneyhats!1! /s
No but seriously, that threw me off too. All I could think of was how ruthless the score would be if this was an indie or an average developer.
I play games before bed to relax and wind down. The idea of this game alone sounds perfect to me. I spent most of my time in BOTW just... walking. Got around to finishing the game eventually. You're not alone in your sentiment.
As sarcastic as you are it's really not too hard to believe how big of an outlet IGN is and there influence on mainstream reviews
People caring about MC should be happy about that as EDGE reviewer seemed to really hate the game.
Is it confirmed they absolutely won't be scoring the game at all?
I remember seeing mention that review guidelines say that you have to had finished playthrough in order to review the game.
How they would check on such thing who knows.
I remember seeing the tweets from the Edge guy saying the review won't be in the next issue, but I assumed it would be in the issue after that.
Either way I feel if Edge do score the game that'll lower the meta further.
What? I'm not being sarcastic in the slightest mate. How did you read sarcasm from my post?
The difference is fan reaction. Nobody invests these games with the mythos of Kojima. Of course, none of these games also feature the typically overblown, thematically heavy stories, and I reckon it's that combination ('mundane' gameplay and Kojima's style) that causes the fuss - positive and negative. Ditto the 'AAA' label which imo is such an unhelpful, distorting influence.
He said not to expect review in next issue or issue after that.
And I find that completely fair. He/she hated it and couldn't bring themselves to finish so they could not give a difinitive score.