Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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With Sanders and Warren off the ticket, any obligation I had in voting in the GE is effectively gone.
Good luck Biden and the D's; you'll need it.
That was mostly a Biden supporter thing, ironically.
Give dreamers citizenship, enforce the laws on the books, deport violent criminals.
Imagine thinking the debates won Trump anything. ROFLCOPTER.
At this point Warren should just back Biden and make a play to be his VP (which given his current condition could easily become a Prez position down the road).
At least she could keep him from going too far right.
She hasn't had both feet planted firmly with the progressive cause most of this entire primary so this play wouldn't seem that inauthentic.
At least she could keep him from going too far right.
She hasn't had both feet planted firmly with the progressive cause most of this entire primary so this play wouldn't seem that inauthentic.
Clyburn was huge for Biden. That surge did help Biden. It would have been closer if not for that (still Biden wins). All you're doing is defending corporate interests by making the voters and that interest synonymous. You don't want us to attack those corporate interests? That's antithetical to being a progressive.
Would be nice if instead of trying to get petty hashtags trending and feeling proud of themselves they would instead go out and actually, you know, vote?
Apparently they seem uninterested in actually affecting change and just enjoy complaining instead.
You have to sign a legally binding contract to run for president as a Democrat saying you will be officially registered as a Democrat nationally for as long as you represent the party in the primary, general, and as president.
Also that's a pretty shitty excuse when Biden literally prides himself on conceding to Republican demands.
Never seen people so willing to disenfranchise themselves.
That's exactly why she'd be a good pick as an intra-party olive branch. People's biggest concerns with Biden are on financial policy because he was the Senator representing Delaware for decades. It'd be less about electioneering and more about shoring up internal concerns, much like how Pence got picked for Trump.
It's not going to be Pete. Pete doesn't add anything, doesn't have the background to take over as President, and while none of the candidates are fantastic on racial issues, Pete's spectacularly awful in a way that would likely hurt turnout.
that bernie florida ad is so fucking funny to me. in what context did obama ever say 'thats right feel the burn' again?
Yup just read the article- it looks completely up in the air as far as what she actually does once she gets out.
That's his policy plan. Obviously the enforcement has its own context with ICE and the DHS.
You really have no idea whether or not people spreading a hashtag voted or not. This is all pure conjecture. What's even the point of complaining about it? Plenty of people don't like Joe Biden. There is plenty of reason to dislike him. Go ask Anita Hill how she feels about the man.
Didn't these "35%" numbers exist from when Pete and Amy were still in? I don't believe 65% of Warren supporters were going to end up going to Biden and Bloomberg
If Clyburn endorsing Biden is the establishment Bernie is fighting against in action then he's delusional.
I want you to realize that the reason Bernie lost is because of Bernie. There's no existentialt threat that caused him to underperform last night. The youth vote didn't turn out and he preformed poorly with African Americans. That's why he lost.
I too like to make large assumptions based off nothing.
Anyone that wins would find it difficult to get anything done. The same left moderate right power structure will exist. If Bernie goes away, that doesn't make it more likely for Biden to get anything done. The moderates are as moderate as the Republican base allows them to be, hence why they're moderates. Meaning that just because Biden is more in line with them now (due to Bernie being left and Biden being right in this specific race), doesn't mean they will be in line with him when he's the left representative. The corporate interests will naturally want to preserve their wealth, and if Biden is the most left, they will side with whoever preserves their wealth more (the right or moderate).
This same debate was played out under Obama. It's the same reason why many who defend Joe say "Biden will be to the left of Obama." If you apply that logic to today, just because Obama was to the right of Biden doesn't mean that it's somehow easier to pass his agenda than Biden's agenda. The same left moderate right power structure was there.
Agree to disagree then. Its very clear the democratic establishment is both trying to send a message to the progressive branch of the party, while the millionaire/billionaire class are ensuring that the policy positions of the candidate are as moderate as can be while appearing 'progressive' at first glance.
Trust - the only way the Democrats are gonna get me to vote for them now is if they put someone like Warren or Bernie on the ticket even in the VP capacity. Perhaps they'll do it as an olive branch, but my cynicism in the ruling class of the country tells me they will not go for it.
Hope you're voting in a safe Dem state, look into local or state politics to see what you can do to continue the progressive agenda. US politics isn't determined solely by the presidential seat
Yeeeaaaaaahhh, it's kinda ironic.
Just in case this wasn't rhetorical, it was during the 2016 convention where Obama was trying to extend an olive branch to Bernie supporters. Also, the visual was when Obama was basically telling Sanders to ease off the attack ads on Hillary when he was mathematically eliminated.
Warren drops out, endorses Bernie. Bernie picks Ayanna Pressley as VP. Wins every remaining state.
#MakeMyFanFictionReality
#MakeMyFanFictionReality
Except that we have tangible data from last night showing that younger voters, the people who peruse and consume social media like twitter more than any demographic, were a smaller percentage of the electorate last night in comparison to 2016.
Nah, they ain't turning out like they should be.
The admin directs ICE and DHS activities. He previously served in administration in which that was clearly NOT the limited , very specific directive of ICE and DHS. Even then, anyone actually convicted of a violent crime won't be getting deported any time soon since they, you know, have to serve their sentence. Doesn't really track with the 3 million deportations in 8 years under the admin Biden was VP of.
I'm basically saying that believing that line is bullshit.
Which negates none of what I said. Why are you whining about people complaining about Joe Biden?
Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie Sanders' losses
Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016.
www.usatoday.com
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How's that? Trump literally said he could shoot someone on 5th ave and his base would still vote for him (or something to that effect).
Your first sentence is an opinion shared by many, but your second makes no sense. Why wish them good luck when you don't want them to win?
I mean Kirblar is right that Pete adds nothing to the ticket.
That's very petulant sounding. It's disappointing to see.
Must be nice to be so privileged that you have zero problems with 4 more years of Trump.
Oh, you do have problems with that? Then fucking vote.
You don't find it the least bit shifty that he remained in the primary in 2016 continuing to accept donations knowing full well he'd never be the nominee?
He constantly tried to fool people into thinking super delegates would pick him or there was absolutely some way he could win, so keep the cash flowing. I saw it as very predatory and misleading to keep collecting money by lying to people about his chances to be the nominee
Schtick? Jesus....
this is how I feel
With regards to DACA I would be surprised if very many come forward for it who weren't already known. Seeing how quickly it can go away would keep people from coming forward I'd think. One more reason we need to flip the Senate and nuke the filibuster, so we can get it legislatively.
I'm gonna guess that most of the people spreading that hashtag do not live in Alabama, North Carolina, Virginia, or Tennessee.Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie Sanders' losses
Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016.www.usatoday.com
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I don't have a problem with a candidate staying in if it forces the other candidate to make concessions for the good of the people.
Crazy how easily Democrats are manipulated by Republicans. We are so weak-willed that we'll just sit around and jack off on our own self pity while Trump strolls into term 2. Democrats are pathetic.
This isn't hard. If you're not happy about Biden, and I certainly am not, wouldn't it make sense to vote and ensure he doesn't win the nomination? It didn't happen last night. Voters who sat out 2016 went overwhelmingly to Biden. The voteshare of the 18-29 demographic was down compared to 2016. If you're going to whine you sure as hell better vote and make your voice heard when it actually matters too. That didn't happen.
Not sure why you're being so argumentative about it.
See, the race that made me basically give up on American politics as a voter wasn't even this primary. Its the current House contest going on in Texas, where a house 'democrat' who is a Republican and literally goes out and stumps for GOP politicians in Texas is running against a democratic progressive challenger, and you have folks like Nancy fucking Pelosi supporting the fucking Republican in D-clothing.
The fact that so much of the establishment democratic system is putting money towards ensuring this asshole keeps his seat, a politician who takes tons of special interest money and then votes with/for Trump over 75% of the time in the last nearly 4 years, then you have the heads of the democratic party going out and endorsing this clown, made me realize that the fight over national politics simply doesn't matter. This is barely about left & right; its about rich versus everyone else. And they will divide us along race, class, and politics to ensure they keep theirs. And Americans are simply too fucking stupid to ever fight back.
Seeing the weight of the democratic establishment used in all manners against Bernie & Warren, and then seeing the American people refuse to take stock of the situation they are actually in, made me realize there is simply no end to this. The best thing to do is to make as much money as possible while you're young.
It's idiotic to generalize Trump's 63 million voters as all stupid just the same as it is wrong to generalize Biden's black supporters just because they voted for him. Let's try not to generalize tens of millions of people mkay?
Enjoy your privilege fool. nothing wrong with being upset at the results so far, but fuck off with this attitude.
You are using two stats(Twitter,youth turnout) without doing any sort of research that people who complain about Joe Biden are less/just/more likely to vote or less/just/more young. Just large assumptions based off nothing.Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie Sanders' losses
Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016.www.usatoday.com
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he literally told people he could still be the nominee even though he fully knew he could not be. All while continuing to ask for donations for a campaign he knew was never going to happen
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