Destruction All Stars introduces online bots due to low player count (you still have to pay for online multiplayer)

Arukado · May 30, 2021

Ryuhza said:
A pity, but the game just doesn't feel well thought out.

Dead Prince said:
the gameplay loops is just not fun.

These. No only is barebones in terms of content, but the gameplay loop is just not fun (it feels like the game mechanics were mashed together hoping that they would work). I think i played 3 rounds and uninstalled it afterwards.

And i am not surprised, because the game had bomba written all over from the start.

Chief Malik · May 30, 2021

They need to port it to PS4

Dyno · May 30, 2021

Arukado said:
These. No only is barebones in terms of content, but the gameplay loop is just not fun (it feels like the game mechanics were mashed together hoping that they would work). I think i played 3 rounds and uninstalled it afterwards.

And i am not surprised, because the game had bomba written all over from the start.

Tbh I think the concept had promise but they totally missed the mark on execution. They needed to lean into the cars having a good physics system at the very least but it feels absolutely awful. Everything on foot was too barebones to be included. Game needed more time and a bit more ambition.

Lys Skygge · May 30, 2021

This game has a really good foundation, and I enjoyed the couple of hours I put into it, but it didn't have much to keep me going.

Fdkn · May 30, 2021

I had my fun with the game and got the platinum, but it never seemed like a game that would have a long lasting community.

Waggle_free · May 30, 2021

It's really pretty and cool game. But 5-minute matchmaking is just not acceptable. Bots or any way to bypass waiting times could have saved the game, though now I'm afraid it's too late.

Kinthey · May 30, 2021

GungJoe said:
Also as for this game, it's not just a lack of content letting it down. The gameplay is shallow as fuck.

Honestly Sony should let Lucid have a go at the Twisted Metal IP. Prior to Destruction All Stars they made Switch Blade which has much better, and much more in-depth gameplay than DAS.

Yeah, there is simply no reason to stick with the game

Liam Allen-Miller · May 30, 2021

Here's a link to all the update notes since OP didn't post one; https://www.reddit.com/r/DestructionAS/comments/nmvxml/friday_28th_may_dev_update_blog/

Kinthey said:
Yeah, there is simply no reason to stick with the game

My girlfriend and I still play it almost daily just because we enjoy it. There's a small community and enjoying something is more than enough reason.

M. Wallace · May 30, 2021

Not surprised. It's not very fun.

Doctor_Thomas · May 30, 2021

I played the tutorial and a match and was done.

I think it's a well made game, it makes really good use of the haptics on the DualSense, it looks great... but it's just not very engaging.

Sony have two franchises - Destruction Derby and Twisted Metal - that, on name alone, may have been enough to get some old school people on board with. Instead they opted for a new franchise, that's very like a toned down Twisted Metal with "Destruction" in the title.

Everything about it is, honestly, sterile.

MoosGoMoo · May 30, 2021

Doesn't surprise me, it's a bad game.

Thank God it was given away for free

Tobor · May 30, 2021

I just do not understand why this wasn't a new Twister Metal game. It's baffling.

Vormund · May 30, 2021

Game aside, I do like the idea of putting bots in servers to fill slots.

DarrenM · May 30, 2021

elenarie said:
It goes far beyond just sustaining a player count. It helps ease people into multiplayer experiences by first offering them a safer environment to get more familiar with the game first, before jumping into the real thing.

Campaign mode confirmed for BF6, thanks Elnarie, the Spaghetti is on me.

Kuro · May 30, 2021

Character design and animations are great but the gameplay was really unsatisfying for me. Arenas are tiny for a game with car combat and even then its kind of a pain to ram into people. The abilities felt a little buggy too.

I think I would have preferred it if the game was more like that old cartoon Wacky Races. They could have started or ended the races on foot if they wanted to incorporate that aspect of the game and differentiate themselves from Kart racers.

Liam Allen-Miller · May 30, 2021

Kuro said:
Character design and animations are great but the gameplay was really unsatisfying for me. Arenas are tiny for a game with car combat and even then its kind of a pain to ram into people. The abilities felt a little buggy too.

I think I would have preferred it if the game was more like that old cartoon Wacky Races. They could have started or ended the races on foot if they wanted to incorporate that aspect of the game and differentiate themselves from Kart racers.

There was actually a survey they sent out privately recently and one of the major features they floated in it was a new racing gameplay mode! Probably not a short-term feature (if ever) but I do hope it happens!

Greywaren · May 30, 2021

Such a shame to hear this. It looks fun. Maybe they should consider releasing it on PC and enabling crossplay to lure in more players. It being a PS5 exclusive probably isn't helping because of the lack of stock and everything.

vixolus · May 30, 2021

Greywaren said:
Such a shame to hear this. It looks fun. Maybe they should consider releasing it on PC and enabling crossplay to lure in more players. It being a PS5 exclusive probably isn't helping because of the lack of stock and everything.

They should just consider releasing it on PS4 tbh. Nothing about the game seems impossible on last gen.

bushmonkey · May 30, 2021

I was really looking forward to this game but I didn't like the controls and the matches are too chaotic for me. I gave up pretty quickly. It's a shame as the ideas behind it are solid and I like the graphics, I just couldn't enjoy the moment to moment gameplay.

IMCaprica · May 30, 2021

Feels bad, honestly. There's such a cool idea there, and I enjoyed what they put out. There's just not enough. Obviously, I don't know what the development was like, but they probably could've scrapped several modes if it meant focusing on quantity of things to unlock.

Deleted member 4976 · May 30, 2021

Did they say bots were introduced due to low player count?

poklane · May 30, 2021

I'm still mindblown that out of all Sony's games this one wasn't cross-gen. You would think that if you have a multiplayer game which will rely on sustaining a big active playerbase that's the one you make cross-gen, but nah for some unexplainable reason someone thought going PS5 exclusive was a smart idea.

RivalGT · May 30, 2021

Bots are great option to have, I still remember when cod used to have them, they even had lan support back then.

Actual bots in games is something I'm more familiar with in mobile games. It's also a good option, as it let's players learn the game at their own pace.

Budi · May 30, 2021

elenarie said:
Every game needs to have bots in online / training modes / whatever. And I'm saying this as someone that mostly works on games that don't do that. :D

It goes far beyond just sustaining a player count. It helps ease people into multiplayer experiences by first offering them a safer environment to get more familiar with the game first, before jumping into the real thing.

(I don't know if this game had this already, never had any interest in it to check.)

Agreed with this. I have no comments on this particular game or it's health though.

Smash-It Stan · May 30, 2021

Hopefully should make getting the plat a cakewalk

Thorn · May 30, 2021

I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

JhOnNY_HD · May 30, 2021

The worst PS5 platinium so far me.

The game is so broken that even boosting with players in line the trophys dont pop.

To many desing flaws to save the game TBH

Deleted member 12352 · May 30, 2021

I was under the impression that bots were a fairly common thing in online games.

Did they actually say that they were adding them due to low player count?

Simon-chan · May 30, 2021

Hopefully Sony will choose better partnerships in the future.

Thorn said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

PlayStation's Bleeding Edge.

Disco Infernal · May 30, 2021

cw_sasuke said:
Thats good news, not every game will be Rocket League or Fortnite.

Its averaging around zero streams a day on Twitch. You're right that not every game will be huge, but not every game will bomb as hard as this one did either. Bots are a necessary addition since no one is playing it, most likely too late though.

Wolfman said:
I was under the impression that bots were a fairly common thing in online games.

Did they actually say that they were adding them due to low player count?

They are. Even hugely popular games like Tetris 99 and PAC Man 99 use them to fill out a match.

Thorn · May 30, 2021

Simon-chan said:
Hopefully Sony will choose better partnership in the future.

PlayStation's Bleeding Edge.

Oh lord you nailed it. Is it just like...trying to get the Fortnite crowd with that aesthetic or am I just becoming a cranky old man?

justiceiro · May 30, 2021

I mean, all things considered, the paid online is here justified, because the bots actually consume resources from Sony servers.

JaseC64 · May 30, 2021

Sony this is they type of game you throw at PC gamers and get some bonus points. Lol

In seriousness, can we still get the platinum with bots? I want to work on that and then delete this game lol.

Liam Allen-Miller · May 30, 2021

Thorn said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

I would say it's more inspired by hero shooters and the like, rather than Fortnite. That being said, they're really charismatic in motion!

Deleted member 13798 · May 30, 2021

Thorn said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

They have a lot of parallels to Apex Legends and some Overwatch too. I hate this aesthetic personally. The dodgeball game is like that too for me.

vixolus · May 30, 2021

Fury451 said:
They have a lot of parallels to Apex Legends and some Overwatch too. I hate this aesthetic personally. The dodgeball game is like that too for me.

I don't like a majority of the Knockout City character faces, but at least everything is customizable and there's even headgear that's unlocked.

Perfectsil · May 30, 2021

pretty sure other (non-ftp) multiplayer games with bots all need ps+

IneptEMP · May 30, 2021

Thorn said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

The hyper-colorful Dreamworks smirk character design is definitely reaching a saturation point

similar to the grey bald space marine of yesteryear

JaseC64 · May 30, 2021

Thorn said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who hates the character designs / aesthetics of this game and was turned off by it.

I can't tolerate these...I dunno...Always Smirking, Colorful, WACKY character designs. I guess its because its how Fortnite looks?

Half are ok at best. The rest are just so bad.

Reminds me of ON-RUSH, another game with horrible character design. Gameplay is more fun though I'll say.

These companies need to stop trying hard with the designs.

Flandy · May 30, 2021

I stopped playing because there was no music during matches. Felt weirdly empty

TooBusyLookinGud · May 30, 2021

I remember the State of Play thread here. People were acting like it was the next big thing and the game looked like ass.

jsnepo · May 30, 2021

Lower the price to $20 or make it F2P then release on PC with crossplay.

Liam Allen-Miller · May 30, 2021

JaseC64 said:
These companies need to stop trying hard with the designs.

Are you suggesting they should… not try?

Disco Infernal · May 30, 2021

DumpsterJuice said:
I remember the State of Play thread here. People were acting like it was the next big thing and the game looked like ass.

Was that back when it was still slated to be a 70 dollar release? Credit to Sony for realizing early on how off the mark they were on that.

Thorn · May 30, 2021

Fury451 said:
They have a lot of parallels to Apex Legends and some Overwatch too. I hate this aesthetic personally. The dodgeball game is like that too for me.

yeah Knockout City also turns me away with its aesthetic.

STOP SMIRKING PEOPLE YOU LOOK LIKE DREAMWORKS CHARACTERS

RisingStar · May 30, 2021

1. Why was this exclusive to PS5? Should've been cross-gen.
2. Why isn't it just F2P at this point? Do they have enough customization options through micro transactions to enable it?
3. Is there any specific reason why its not biting any players?

Josh5890 · May 30, 2021

It is a fun game when you have 16 people but it gets boring very fast if you don't have a full group.

I don't expect the servers to stay open more than a few years. Sony has had a lot of hits over the past couple of years but this one is a dud.

Dead Man Typing · May 30, 2021

Danielsan said:
It's beyond dumb that they only made it free on PS+ for two months while no one was able to get their hands on a PS5. Would try it out for free but definitely not paying 20 bucks for it.

I didn't realise it wasn't included in PS+ any more.
Maybe that news did the rounds and I missed it.

Making it a PS+ inclusion seemed like such a smart move. I don't understand the logic in trying to charge $20 after the fact.

Spork4000 · May 30, 2021

RisingStar said:
1. Why was this exclusive to PS5?
2. Why isn't it just F2P at this point? Do they have enough customization options through micro transactions to enable it?
3. Is there any specific reason why its not biting any players?

1. Sony made it, I know, not a big reason in modern day, but if they say it can't be done on PS4 I'll believe them even if I don't see it.

2. no earthly idea.

3. It isn't very good and constantly tries to get you to put more money in it in a world where there are literally half a dozen other games trying to get that same persistent revenue.

Hybrid Rainbow · May 30, 2021

MoosGoMoo said:
Doesn't surprise me, it's a bad game.

Thank God it was given away for free

lol Holy shit. No wonder devs hate interacting with this forum. You can not like the game, but hot takes like these just feed into the narrative that gamers are entitled manchildren.

DumpsterJuice said:
I remember the State of Play thread here. People were acting like it was the next big thing and the game looked like ass.

Lol What kind of revisionist history is this? It honesty seem like some of y'all are almost gloating about this situation.

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