I would be so down for this. Thankfully, unlike The Phantom Pain's Kaz, we know Nero's not lost the rest of his personality.
I would be so down for this. Thankfully, unlike The Phantom Pain's Kaz, we know Nero's not lost the rest of his personality.
Nero: "Dante, I'm already a demon"
Dante: "Uhhhh we established that 10 years ago"
I feel like Nero vocally expressing his grudge against Vergil in this trailer already makes this a better tale of revenge than MGSV was. If they were doing this MGSV style it'd be Nico super mad at Vergil and Nero just kind of being an errand boy the whole game :P
I would be so down for this. Thankfully, unlike The Phantom Pain's Kaz, we know Nero's not lost the rest of his personality.
TFW you realize Dante is pretty old and Nero is probably a millennial
I was so relieved to get those burger tapes cause that was the only bit of the old Kaz that we got. And yeah, I know it made perfect sense given the story, but it still disappointed me that we only got to see that old side of him in one series of tapes. Would have been nice if we got a little more than that.You can still see some of the old Kaz with his burger experiments on Code Talker but other than that his personality shift does make sense both for his character and the story. And it connects directly into the MSX Metal Gear (?) where he called Big Boss a monster etc.
I was so relieved to get those burger tapes cause that was the only bit of the old Kaz that we got. And yeah, I know it made perfect sense given the story, but it still disappointed me that we only got to see that old side of him in one series of tapes. Would have been nice if we got a little more than that.
Hmm. Fair point...True but honestly if you want more of that then just listen to the Peace Walker tapes again on youtube, there is a ton of that stuff in that game and its really good. It didn't need a round 2.
Seriously? Shit. Well, at least Devil Trigger is still there...So Spotify removed DMC music. Sigh. Devil Trigger and DmC stuff are still there.
Yep. Ruined my Devils Never Cry - Never Surrender-Devil Trigger thing I had going . :pSeriously? Shit. Well, at least Devil Trigger is still there...
Weird, it's still there for me.So Spotify removed DMC music. Sigh. Devil Trigger and DmC stuff are still there.
For some reason. It won't open in the Spotify app. Not available in my country? (US)Weird, it's still there for me.
https://open.spotify.com/album/3RtEod2oUctaS54jTA2ELI?si=cgESzXayToyoWTRddUT0-Q
Aww, that sucks!Yep. Ruined my Devils Never Cry - Never Surrender-Devil Trigger thing I had going . :p
Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize how fucked up Nero most be in DMC5. Like seriously just picture this:
"You are a member of Order of the Sword. An organization that specializes in protecting people from demons.
Due to a string of events, you realize that others in your organization are demons trying to open the hell's gate on a stupid quest to rid the entire world from demons.
Along the way to stop them you'll fight a bunch of powerful demons, awaken your inner devil, fix and acquire one of the most powerful weapons/swords in the world (that you later on realize was used by Sparda's first born), fight with Dante the other son of the legendary Sparda twice, get his approval to use his brother's sword, realize that you are also a descendant of Sparda, beat the leader of the Order who has Sparda's power/weapon and save the girl you love and probably the entire world in the process.
Dante trusts you with Yamato for good. Sends you a Devil May Cry neon sign so you could start your own demon hunting business. You put the sign on a van and get on to demon hunting, making Dante proud and earning a living.
Several years have gone by since then. You are a pro at hunting demons now. You've managed to built a nice home for yourself and your lover close to sea.
One day when you are at home, the safest place in the world for you and your loved ones, someone/something sneaks up on you in your garage where you are fixing your van. He rips off your devil arm (the main source of your power) in mere seconds with his bare hands and leaves you bleeding to death. Your lover hears the noise and comes to see what has happened and all you can do while crawling towards the hooded demon/figure is to scream "KYRIE, GET BACK INSIDE NOW" totally helpless to do anything if the demon was to attack your lover.
A demon comes to your house, in your garage, rips off your arm (and steals the weapon that was trusted to you by Dante in the process) and all you can do is scream and beg/pray that he doesn't hurt your lover.
Even after you survive this attack, even if your lover survives this attack, how can any of you feel safe anymore? How can you live like this anymore? How can you not look over your shoulder every single second, expecting said demon to come back and finish the job? How can you even face Kyrie anymore? How can you ever feel safe again?"
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Like, damn dude. No wonder there are a bunch of dream catchers in the van. Nero probably still has nightmares about what happened that day.
I really hope they touch on this and show what sort of mental damage Vergil's attack on Nero must've done to him. He probably felt extremely helpless in that moment. That must've had a huge impact on his relationship with Kyrie and their life as a couple as well.
I know I'm most likely setting myself up for disappointment here, but man they can do a lot of cool stuff with this.
Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize how fucked up Nero most be in DMC5. Like seriously just picture this:
"You are a member of Order of the Sword. An organization that specializes in protecting people from demons.
Due to a string of events, you realize that others in your organization are demons trying to open the hell's gate on a stupid quest to rid the entire world from demons.
Along the way to stop them you'll fight a bunch of powerful demons, awaken your inner devil, fix and acquire one of the most powerful weapons/swords in the world (that you later on realize was used by Sparda's first born), fight with Dante the other son of the legendary Sparda twice, get his approval to use his brother's sword, realize that you are also a descendant of Sparda, beat the leader of the Order who has Sparda's power/weapon and save the girl you love and probably the entire world in the process.
Dante trusts you with Yamato for good. Sends you a Devil May Cry neon sign so you could start your own demon hunting business. You put the sign on a van and get on to demon hunting, making Dante proud and earning a living.
Several years have gone by since then. You are a pro at hunting demons now. You've managed to built a nice home for yourself and your lover close to sea.
One day when you are at home, the safest place in the world for you and your loved ones, someone/something sneaks up on you in your garage where you are fixing your van. He rips off your devil arm (the main source of your power) in mere seconds with his bare hands and leaves you bleeding to death. Your lover hears the noise and comes to see what has happened and all you can do while crawling towards the hooded demon/figure is to scream "KYRIE, GET BACK INSIDE NOW" totally helpless to do anything if the demon was to attack your lover.
A demon comes to your house, in your garage, rips off your arm (and steals the weapon that was trusted to you by Dante in the process) and all you can do is scream and beg/pray that he doesn't hurt your lover.
Even after you survive this attack, even if your lover survives this attack, how can any of you feel safe anymore? How can you live like this anymore? How can you not look over your shoulder every single second, expecting said demon to come back and finish the job? How can you even face Kyrie anymore? How can you ever feel safe again?"
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Like, damn dude. No wonder there are a bunch of dream catchers in the van. Nero probably still has nightmares about what happened that day.
I really hope they touch on this and show what sort of mental damage Vergil's attack on Nero must've done to him. He probably felt extremely helpless in that moment. That must've had a huge impact on his relationship with Kyrie and their life as a couple as well.
I know I'm most likely setting myself up for disappointment here, but man they can do a lot of cool stuff with this.
Seriously, it was kind of weird seeing realistic military/police in the DMC universe. What must be going through their poor heads?
The idea that Nero/Dante are completely oblivious that the rest of the world doesn't operate on The Rule of Cool is hilarious and I hope actually stays, especially with the more realistic setting
The last thing DMC needs is to take itself 100% seriously or to have 10-minute long Kojima-tier diatribes. Give me fun-loving cut-scenes that are succinct, explosive and paced with the quickness.
Dante's coin in DMC2 doesn't have tails tho. Both sides have heads on them. So when he flips the coin he has already decided to help that person.I don't know which one is the bigger asshole, DMC2 Dante who won't save innocents if it's tails, or DMC1/4 Dante who won't save innocents if they got the wrong password.
Oh shoot, that's in Lucia's campaign right? I guess that means, funnily enough, that DMC2 Dante is the least asshole of all.Dante's coin in DMC2 doesn't have tails tho. Both sides have heads on them. So when he flips the coin he has already decided to help that person.
This is an interesting video. Especially the part about the city at the end of the trailer (Dante part) being the same city from DMC2.
This is an interesting video. Especially the part about the city at the end of the trailer (Dante part) being the same city from DMC2.
This is an interesting video. Especially the part about the city at the end of the trailer (Dante part) being the same city from DMC2.
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In the anime.
I'm aware. I meant in the context of the post. Trelll was listing things that Capcom's brought from the anime into actual canon and then mentioned the strawberry thing among those others too.
It was a thing in the anime.
Dollar store Gintoki with Strawberry milk quirk
In anticipation of DMC5 I've been practicing dante in 4, I never gave him a proper go at launch because he was very complex but thought it better to try again. Pretty happy with my progress so far.
It was a thing in the anime.
Dollar store Gintoki with Strawberry milk quirk
I think DMC5 is completely unrelated to DMC2 which is probably not considered canon in Itsuno's universe anymore. The fact that they promote the game as a direct sequel to 4 it's a prime indication. Otherwise they would have to explain Nero and Vergil's absence from 2, plus Dante's return from hell.
I don't expect them wasting game's plot explaining old irrelevant lore instead of fully focusing on what happened after Fortuna incident.
I honestly expect Dante to say "I've just been through hell" at some point and that's all we're getting.Seeing as how at the end of 4 Dante just wanders off and the language for this game says his whereabouts are unknown, slotting 2 between them almost happens naturally. Nero has to be like, "where the hell have you been all this time?" And Dante pops off with something like, "hell, don't worry about it". That is literally all that needs to be said to canonize 2.
Additionally, Vergil's return and what's going on in Redgrave could wind up being connected to Dante's time in hell.
We don't need to dwell on 2 much to work it in and tie the entire series together.
I'm aware. I meant in the context of the post. Trelll was listing things that Capcom's brought from the anime into actual canon and then mentioned the strawberry thing among those others too.
I honestly expect Dante to say "I've just been through hell" at some point and that's all we're getting.
I honestly expect Dante to say "I've just been through hell" at some point and that's all we're getting.
Ooh, cool! Thanks, didn't know about all this.Believe it or not? The Project X Zone games. While those games themselves are definitely not canon, Itsuno allegedly was consulted about Dante's (and Vergil's in the sequel) characterizations in both games in order to make sure they were legitimate, and matched the characters as he saw them. So, when Dante got antsy about his strawberry sundaes being raided in PXZ, I took that as safe confirmation that Itsuno still was honoring that much about Dante's character that stems back all the way to the old Gokeida novels. Much like how Nell Goldstein has just been reaffirmed as canon again, if the engravings on E&I didn't indicate such.
It makes the difference between something like that, which Itsuno oversaw and approved, and MvCI, where it's known that Itsuno wasn't even consulted, and the expressed disappointment, thereof.
Wonder what that meansAlso, before heading to the city during the events shown in the trailer, Dante left someone behind. That's likely relevant to the yet to be revealed third playable character.
DMC2 can be explained as a boring Tuesday for Dante. Nero, Trish, and Lady are killing demons some where else and no enemy is strong enough to take Dante down leading to him not giving a fuck. :pI think DMC5 is completely unrelated to DMC2 which is probably not considered canon in Itsuno's universe anymore. The fact that they promote the game as a direct sequel to 4 it's a prime indication. Otherwise they would have to explain Nero and Vergil's absence from 2, plus Dante's return from hell.
I don't expect them wasting game's plot explaining old irrelevant lore instead of fully focusing on what happened after Fortuna incident.
Was this little tidbit mentioned?
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/06/21/famitsu-devil-ma
Wonder what that means
I think PlayStation Lifestyle is getting things mixed up there. The Famitsu article says Nero left someone (Kyrie?) behind, not Dante.Was this little tidbit mentioned?
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/06/21/famitsu-devil-ma
Wonder what that means
That makes more sense.I think PlayStation Lifestyle is getting things mixed up there. The Famitsu article says Nero left someone (Kyrie?) behind, not Dante.