My first S Rank in my current DMC3 playthrough (as Vergil) is Vergil 3 on Hard.
Like, what?
EDIT: Oh Nelo Angelo DT feels so good
Like, what?
EDIT: Oh Nelo Angelo DT feels so good
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The option to choose between 2/3/4 weapon switching systems is the ideal for me. I don't want to be stuck with only one system because some people prefer something else. Options and quality of life improvements should be a major focus of every DMC game going forward.
Hope you're right about that. Then again, I did get used to Nero again fairly quickly. Dante's much trickier, though, since he's got style and weapon switching too.
I hope I won't suck as much with the other three...
The others are much easier to get a handle on, though Trish's moveset changes and lack of mobility can be tricky. Same with Lady's emphasis on guns and lack of mobility as well. They both make up for it in zoning and raw power. Vergil is all around much easier.
But that's not how the post was worded. You were saying that you wanted a vastly more complex and bigger system. Switching between multiple systems is one thing, having one massive one as you suggested feels overbearing.
Well, that's a relief. He's the one I want to play as the most. Lady seems really tricky, though, because of the switch up between melee and ranged...
Oh, I'm having trouble with the lock-on, though. I can't seem to switch it when I'm already targeting something? I'm playing on Steam with a DualShock 4, if that helps.
Switching is L3. And Vergil's not as easy as Nero. Regardless, Dante's the most difficult character
Yeah, I figured. Weapon switching makes things more complicated for me.
I'm pretty sure I've tried that before... But I could be wrong. Will give it another try then. Thanks!
It took a while for Lady to click for me, but once she did I was SSSing all over the place. Never did quite get the hang of Trish, I always end up doing that upside down spinning kick move more than anything. That or golfing with the Sparda.
Vergil is so good he's like a difficulty override, where playing him cranks down the difficulty a notch or two.
Not me, although the complex system the other poster talked about was basically what a 4 weapon switching system would be. There are a few different ways of doing a 4 melee/4 ranged weapon switch system, and that's another thing that could be included. Personally I don't approve of having only one system, complex or no.
Not me, although the complex system the other poster talked about was basically what a 4 weapon switching system would be. There are a few different ways of doing a 4 melee/4 ranged weapon switch system, and that's another thing that could be included. Personally I don't approve of having only one system, complex or no.
Lady is easy to get big style ranks because she does so much damage to so many at once. She just lacks the mobility which can make bosses rough.
Trish is odd because she has two melee sets, and a third when she doesn't have Sparda. I'm amazed that they didn't give her Air Raid and/or Charge Shot. For some reason I have more difficulty with her Pandora than I have with Dante's.
My bad. I apparently can't read names.
Still, multiple systems is fine, but I don't think having something as complex as that as a starter, or the only system, is a good idea. Part of what makes DMC good is that the system is accessible, but there's a lot of depth that makes it tough to master. Dante in DMC4 is very obtuse if you're a first timer with DMC as a franchise (as I was).
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I've been wondering about this topic for while and I wanted to get some opinion.
Do you guys find DMC games difficult? If not, do you think DMCV would/should have tougher enemies (on base difficulty)?
Do you guys find DMC games difficult? If not, do you think DMCV would/should have tougher enemies (on base difficulty)?
I like the difficulty just fine, but I hate getting ambushed by enemies just out of sight of the camera. Assaults are the worst with their diving and burrowing moves and when they're turned into Chimeras, you got yourself my most hated enemy in the game.
Yes, but not unfair, so it doesn't feel difficult. Does that make sense?
Chimera Assaults are shitty. It's why I hate the Untouchable secret mission so much.
But enemies always make specific sounds before they perform certain attacks, so you gotta listen.
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There should be 3 difficulty modes like there almost are.
Easy mode: This is for people who are just in it for the story/characters. Make it so easy that my grandmother can beat it without a stretch.
Normal mode: Aimed at the casual but regular gamer these days. Not coddlingly easy but they will die here and there.
Devil Hunter/Hard mode: This is actually pretty damn hard. Even long time DMC fans will be challenged and die quite a bit.
This way people can play what they want. Reviewers can play on normal and feel like a bad ass. People who want challenged can be challenged.
Also throw in Turbo/Hardcore modifiers for even more challenge.
The difficulty is scaled perfectly. At least in DMC3/4.
The biggest downer when it comes to DMC4 is that the bosses are like, still pretty easy. Credo, Sanctus, and Bael/Dagon especially. Echidna, too. Honestly, the bosses in DMC4 are kinda lacking.
The biggest downer when it comes to DMC4 is that the bosses are like, still pretty easy. Credo, Sanctus, and Bael/Dagon especially. Echidna, too. Honestly, the bosses in DMC4 are kinda lacking.
Thanks man.
Damn how the hell did I miss that thread. Those reactions on the first page lmao
it would be a great help if you guys could mention my name in any DMC related thread. I have access to internet once or twice every week and it's tough to follow every thread without being mentioned.
Man I do hope flux makes a return from DMC3. I mean, yeah Nero has that breaker move at the beginning, and Lady doesn't even have a DT, but rather a straight up explosion, but the brothers and Trish don't have anything. Flux adds a lot of depth to DT, which the more and more experience and time I get from the franchise, probably has more depth than any other similar mechanic in an action game. I'd say the Viewtiful Joe franchise is the only other one that does this, since it's a core gameplay concept to remain transformed. Maybe Bayo2, due to the multiple uses of the magic meter, but I honestly can't think of any other character action games that utilize their DT equivalents with such depth. And there are a lot of games like this.
Take Vergil's Nelo Angelo DT from DMC3, or Nero's Yamato DT in DMC4. Just really great by basically crafting whole new move sets.
Take Vergil's Nelo Angelo DT from DMC3, or Nero's Yamato DT in DMC4. Just really great by basically crafting whole new move sets.
They do? I haven't noticed it. Haven't played enough as them I suppose.
From a lore perspective, it is a nice touch that all the Order of the Sword bosses (Credo, Agnus, Sanctus) all have some variation of Summon Swords or a Summon Swords technique.
And I also just noticed that the Order's symbol is supposed to be the Sparda sword
And I also just noticed that the Order's symbol is supposed to be the Sparda sword
That's weird to me. The depth the DTs add to these characters is just something that's fascinated me recently, but is it something.
It's because they didn't add anyhing to Dante or Nero. The others' DT's had to be coded individually so I guess that was something they decided to add for 4SE.
I'm just saying it's weird in general and that it wasn't even a thing in standard.
I think all DTs in 5 will have those properties because of it.
Hi guys.
I've been playing the DMC HD collection on PS3 this weekend. I've finished DMC1 on normal and hard, and enjoyed it a lot. Right now I'm at chapter 4 on Dante Must Die difficulty and Nero Angelo is beating my ass but I've got an S rank in the previous 3 chapters, which is a morale boost considering how pedestrian my performances were on hard and specially normal. Still, I'm finding it more frustrating than fun because, while I know what strategy I have to pull to the bosses in order to succed, I'm still not good enough to do it reliably, so I fail a loooot of times, and considering it's the third playthrough, I'm thinking giving it a breather, and return later once I finish 2 and 3.
I'm amazed at how the game has just teached me how to properly play through the course of the game however. It's so satisfying to do things well in places where you previously struggled, and at a higher difficulty no less. And even then it still throws you new things to force you to mix it up with things like regular enemies getting devil trigger states. The mechanics have been surpassed and the camera is terrible, but it amazes me how right they got it the first time, it's still an absolutely spectacular game today.
Now unto DMC2.... Hopefully it will be brief, but I doubt it will be painless.
I've been playing the DMC HD collection on PS3 this weekend. I've finished DMC1 on normal and hard, and enjoyed it a lot. Right now I'm at chapter 4 on Dante Must Die difficulty and Nero Angelo is beating my ass but I've got an S rank in the previous 3 chapters, which is a morale boost considering how pedestrian my performances were on hard and specially normal. Still, I'm finding it more frustrating than fun because, while I know what strategy I have to pull to the bosses in order to succed, I'm still not good enough to do it reliably, so I fail a loooot of times, and considering it's the third playthrough, I'm thinking giving it a breather, and return later once I finish 2 and 3.
I'm amazed at how the game has just teached me how to properly play through the course of the game however. It's so satisfying to do things well in places where you previously struggled, and at a higher difficulty no less. And even then it still throws you new things to force you to mix it up with things like regular enemies getting devil trigger states. The mechanics have been surpassed and the camera is terrible, but it amazes me how right they got it the first time, it's still an absolutely spectacular game today.
Now unto DMC2.... Hopefully it will be brief, but I doubt it will be painless.
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DMC1 the ORIGINAL Souls game.
With Nelo Angelo you really want to maximize your Devil Trigger usage. Don't try to do any fancy, whenever you are in DT you can break his guard so just go ham on him. When you don't have DT, play it safer, jump to avoid his attacks and build meter with the Grenade launcher or taunt. A well timed Magma Drive (the uppercut with Ifrit) can also break Nelo Angelo's guard.
With Nelo Angelo you really want to maximize your Devil Trigger usage. Don't try to do any fancy, whenever you are in DT you can break his guard so just go ham on him. When you don't have DT, play it safer, jump to avoid his attacks and build meter with the Grenade launcher or taunt. A well timed Magma Drive (the uppercut with Ifrit) can also break Nelo Angelo's guard.
I couldn't finish Dante's campaign in DMC2, let alone bother to start Lucia's.
Felt like it took forever.
Felt like it took forever.
Why does the cover art for DMC HD go 2, 1, 3 left to right? Is that another Capcpom to add to the list?
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It's very unlikely that Capcom would ever want DMC2 to be the front and center of a collection of the series.
Doubt it. Since the cover is broken into three parts in circular division, I think its meant to be looked in counter-clockwise fashion. (So 1.2.3)
Because DMC1 is in the center, and therefore the focal point. Then you have it going chronologically left to right.
You know what would be cool? If like, in DMC5, they go to Hell, right, but hear me out: Then Vergil fights DMC2 Dante, because time in Hell is weird and in my head Vergil would be making his way to the heart of Hell or whatever to gain ultimate power to rule Hell and destroy all the demons and claim dominion, where Nero will fight him as both of their final bosses: Nero vs Vergil. Also Lucia should team up with Vergil for funsies. I should really just play Lucia's campaign in DMC2 to say that I have played every single playable character in the franchise.
My story idea for DMC5 that I posted in the leak thread months ago:
You know what would be cool? If like, in DMC5, they go to Hell, right, but hear me out: Then Vergil fights DMC2 Dante, because time in Hell is weird and in my head Vergil would be making his way to the heart of Hell or whatever to gain ultimate power to rule Hell and destroy all the demons and claim dominion, where Nero will fight him as both of their final bosses: Nero vs Vergil. Also Lucia should team up with Vergil for funsies. I should really just play Lucia's campaign in DMC2 to say that I have played every single playable character in the franchise.
My story idea for DMC5 that I posted in the leak thread months ago:
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Vergil would never get worked by Nero.
In reality Vergil has been training hyperbolic time chamber style in hell all this time. Dante too busy eating Strawberry Sundaes, reading Playboys and eating pizzas while hunting weaksauce demons... Vergil been getting buff in hell. When they finally meet, Vergil going to smack both Dante and Nero down to size. It's going to have to be a Vergil vs Dante + Nero showdown for him to finally fall (in additional to Vergil's own ego).
In reality Vergil has been training hyperbolic time chamber style in hell all this time. Dante too busy eating Strawberry Sundaes, reading Playboys and eating pizzas while hunting weaksauce demons... Vergil been getting buff in hell. When they finally meet, Vergil going to smack both Dante and Nero down to size. It's going to have to be a Vergil vs Dante + Nero showdown for him to finally fall (in additional to Vergil's own ego).
I mean, we don't know how powerful Nero will get and how messed up Vergil is given that he exploded last time he was seen.
It's the Japanese cover for the previous one as well.
Huh, I'd never seen that before. I'm sure it is just their way of giving the big dog DMC1 pride of place on the box art, but I can't resist razzing Capcpom every now and then :P
I want to see Punished Vergil pulling some straight up ridiculous shit when he jumps out of Hell. I want him effortlessly fighting off Dante, Nero, Lady and Trish all at once, then laying them all out in one slash and telling them he was only using a fraction of his power. "There's a new Lord of Hell, Dante, and he's coming. If this is all you have, you don't stand a chance..."
*CUT TO LATE TITLE CARD*
Devil May Cry V
So has anybody had issues with weapon switching in 4SE (Steam) when using a DualShock 4? I'm kinda hoping it's just my controller because I plan on getting a new one later this month. I'd also like to think that that's why I'm not playing as well as I'd like with Dante, but I honestly just suck. I don't know why, but I didn't have a hard time at all back when I played the original. And I was playing with a keyboard for Pete's sake.
Killing basic enemies grant you a certain amount of EXP. Killing bosses grant you significantly more EXP.
So it doesn't matter how much you actually use the Style itself? Huh...