Warzone players demand cross-play changes as hackers make it “unplayable” - Dexerto
Warzone players have called for major changes to the way cross-play works as hackers continue to ruin the battle royal experience.
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Dexerto: Warzone players demand cross-play changes as hackers make it “unplayable”
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It would help if Warzone players stop acting like "cheating" is specific to PC. We already know about the Cronus Zen and that other new "ai" that's supposed to aim for you.
It is, but it's limited to your console's ecosystem only, or everything. People are asking for a console only toggle to eliminate PC players.
It was a toggle, but I'm thinking it's more bureaucratic than this.
Afaik only PlayStation has an in-game toggle to turn it off in Warzone, but I'm not 100% sure on that. It's also a simple on/off toggle, there's no console-only cross-play option.
That should've been a feature since Day 1.
Crossplay is great, but not if it puts you against people with superior input methods. Console Crossplay should be an option alongside full platform Crossplay, irrespective of the cheating which plagues the PC version.
Crossplay is great, but not if it puts you against people with superior input methods. Console Crossplay should be an option alongside full platform Crossplay, irrespective of the cheating which plagues the PC version.
I never wanted crossplay with pc anyway
the inherent mouse advantage is too stupidly good and the cheating is too much. Last time i played warzone I somehow made it to top 3, and died to a hacker. As someone who doesnt play that well, it sucked
If its not the stressful sbmm, the hacking will sour u completely
the inherent mouse advantage is too stupidly good and the cheating is too much. Last time i played warzone I somehow made it to top 3, and died to a hacker. As someone who doesnt play that well, it sucked
If its not the stressful sbmm, the hacking will sour u completely
insert joke about how console players use aim assist
I play on PC and I haven't really noticed this as being much of an issue, and I play a fair amount so I wonder how rampant it actually is. I know on the PC version of the COD base games, you can turn crossplay off. Is that not a thing with the console versions?
I play on PC and I haven't really noticed this as being much of an issue, and I play a fair amount so I wonder how rampant it actually is. I know on the PC version of the COD base games, you can turn crossplay off. Is that not a thing with the console versions?
I believe it is required to be on to play Warzone. You can toggle it off for standard multi-player.
Just because you play keyboard with mouse does not make you a Faze player so it's tired to blame your poor gameplay on people input method especially when so many pc players play with controller and shitty rigs.
Most cheating claims in FPS games are people comming to reddit or twitter and complain about getting killed in a way they cant explain. most of the time its a simple explanation though.
the opponent knows the game better and is general is better at the game.
but people nowadays barely except better players and rather call them cheaters. (especially with crossplay where console players have PC pros that flick shot them due to a more precise input method)
with so many people claiming that they have been killed by hackers (in many FPSs and not just Warzone) on reddit and so on without any evidence or a video that barely shows anything, you get the general impression that its flooded with hackers while cheaters actually are just half as big of a problem as people make it out to be.
In Warzone in a few hundred hours of playtime I met maybe 2-3 hackers which werent 100% proofable though.
In PUBG back then I met 1-2 obvious hackers (that killed the whole lobby from the pther wnd of the map) in 600 hours.
In EFT in 300 hours I have yet to meet a obvious hacker.
Obviously they are there and more prominent on PC and thus via crossplay reach also consoles.
But hackers are nowhere near as big of a problem as reddit and others make it out to be.
the opponent knows the game better and is general is better at the game.
but people nowadays barely except better players and rather call them cheaters. (especially with crossplay where console players have PC pros that flick shot them due to a more precise input method)
with so many people claiming that they have been killed by hackers (in many FPSs and not just Warzone) on reddit and so on without any evidence or a video that barely shows anything, you get the general impression that its flooded with hackers while cheaters actually are just half as big of a problem as people make it out to be.
In Warzone in a few hundred hours of playtime I met maybe 2-3 hackers which werent 100% proofable though.
In PUBG back then I met 1-2 obvious hackers (that killed the whole lobby from the pther wnd of the map) in 600 hours.
In EFT in 300 hours I have yet to meet a obvious hacker.
Obviously they are there and more prominent on PC and thus via crossplay reach also consoles.
But hackers are nowhere near as big of a problem as reddit and others make it out to be.
If those are true, it's really shitty to not have this option. Xbox + PS population should be more than enough to have fun in Warzone.
Good.
Get that pc hacking shit OUT.
I play on console, and that should be our main advantage. Not having to deal with PC hacking.
Get that pc hacking shit OUT.
I play on console, and that should be our main advantage. Not having to deal with PC hacking.
Most cheats such a aim bots are designed to make it look not like a bot, chances are you've run into them far more often then you think as it will just look like a top tier PC player unless they crank the bot settings up to insane levels.
It's not. But let's not pretend like it's not way WAY more common on PC.
Cross play should be opt in IMO.
The problem is that games without cross play can be scarce because the majority won't bother to turn it off.
The problem is that games without cross play can be scarce because the majority won't bother to turn it off.
Do people not know about Cronus for consoles? I am not saying PC doesn't add cheaters as well but consoles have them too. If people really want to avoid cheats you almost need a cloud future. I heard a small minority talk about trying to get a stronger population on R6:Siege on Stadia to get away from cheaters.
maybe. but then we still have the issue that you barely can differentiate between a legit player and a hacker.
which again leads to people complaining about them on social media.
Eg:
on EFT reddit you have alot of people complaining about hackers. only a small part of them provides evidence by video.
and most of those videos barely confirm anything.
Whats even more funny is on the same page are people showcasing their pro plays where they one tap a group of players.
Just a few posts above you have someone crying that he and his friends have been killed in a short period of time by a hacker.
Obviously those were different occassions but the point is that it could just have been a good player with good gear.
Ya'll, cheating on PC is a real measurable thing and a serious problem.
Don't let anybody say 'console has cheaters too' as if it's even a remotely comparable thing. It's not.
All the most prominent online games routinely ban large ammounts of cheaters SPECIFICIALLY ON PC and they are very public when they do so. We know people are cheating on PC specifically and that it's a problem on PC specifically.
Don't be gaslighting saying 'people cheat on console too'. It's tacky and it's misleading
Don't let anybody say 'console has cheaters too' as if it's even a remotely comparable thing. It's not.
All the most prominent online games routinely ban large ammounts of cheaters SPECIFICIALLY ON PC and they are very public when they do so. We know people are cheating on PC specifically and that it's a problem on PC specifically.
Don't be gaslighting saying 'people cheat on console too'. It's tacky and it's misleading
I genuinely don't know but aren't things like cronus undetectable by anti-cheat?
No one is but the way you deal with cheating is implementing proper anti cheat
Wouldn't it be better just to implement a proper anti cheat system instead of splintering the player base? Seems like altering crossplay is the nuclear option that still won't solve the underlying issue plaguing the game.
My guy, popular PC games routinely drop the numbers for cheater bans. Cheating on PC isn't some myth we've invented from anecdotal reddit posts.
With the direct OS-level access a PC gives, it is pretty much impossible to implement anti-cheat that will stay effective.
Yes, but there is a world of difference between Cronus controlling your recoil and PerfectAim lasering in on heads from across the map.
PC cheating is probably bigger than it's ever been right now and unfortunately I don't see a solution on the horizon. Many of these cheat programs are paid subscriptions that generate large profits. The devs that make them are well-funded and able to dodge around the various anti-cheat implementations almost immediately.
As someone who loves M/KB gameplay it is very frustrating.
This is straight up not true lol. Fortnite has forced crossplay but people complain about it because of broken controller aim assist, not cheaters. Because Easy Anti Cheat is super effective.
My friends and I have run into a ton of obvious cheaters. You can tell when the crosshairs just snap onto you in the kill cam.
It is way out of control and the game doesn't have a good reporting system. You don't always get a kill cam for whatever reason, and once it ends you can't report them anymore? You can't look up who killed you and report them? Its crazy how early access this game still feels with the ridiculous amount of money its making.
Activision is literally doing nothing when it comes to cheaters unless content creators just stop playing this all together
People on cheat consoles since as early as I can remember. Pretty much go to any cod that isn't the current one and you'll hack lobbies every five seconds. The problem has very little to do with who's doing them but rather the lack of moderation and anti cheat by Raven/Activision. Of course the majority hackers are on pc but they've already found way to get walls and aim assist on consoles.
When it comes to FPSs I don't ever want to play with PC players. Console-only matchmaking needs to be a thing yesterday.
Apex Legends separates console and PC players in matchmaking, and forces console players into PC matchmaking only if they decide to play with another PC player. That's the way Warzone should handle it.
Apex Legends separates console and PC players in matchmaking, and forces console players into PC matchmaking only if they decide to play with another PC player. That's the way Warzone should handle it.
As always in these threads, there'll be a bunch of PC players just gaslighting saying it's not a big issue when it clearly is. Console only crossplay with PC as opt-in needs to be the standard. It should be on by default in every other genre with the exception of shooters imo.
I play enough on pc to know that there are some things that are inherently superior with a mouse.
. The hacking problem is a real widespread problem. Ive played a lot of cod but have never run into hackers until i saw it on warzone
There are tons of posts on reddit of blatant hacking with video. Literally any post about hacking that make it to the front page have a video. This isnt just people making up stories
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Honestly PC cheating isn't the only issue atm,
The entire game is starting to fall apart at the seams .
The entire game is starting to fall apart at the seams .