Was excited for this but the bad frame pacing is a no sell. As much as I enjoy Bloodborne, it's toough going back to it because of that, so I won't go anywhere near Sekiro :(
Digital foundry : Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Performance Analysis + Graphics Comparison
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John, what happens when you run the game at 1080p without downsampling from the PS4 pro.
I don't think the list of games where Pro has any significant lead over X in terms of performance is a particularly large one. The times where it does happen usually are in situations where X is achieving a large gap over Pro in resolution.
Sekiro is certainly a curious case but in all honesty when it comes to some Japanese developers releases i've come to expect this kind of thing. PlayStation, understandably, is their focus.
On my receiver, I lose sound when using 120hz with 12-bit color. Switch to 10-bit and it's fine. So there are quirks indeed.
I explained this in the video. Nothing. It's still 1800p and runs the same - just downscaled.
Me too
They literally told me that if I contacted them 2 days sooner they would have gotten it here.
They're awful because my email confirmation says I was getting 2 day release day shipping.
Same old GameStop. I regret using them every single time.
Is there any chance From Software considers adding a "Smooth" mode that would be 1080p but guaranteed (or almost) 60fps?
I'm not sure if they ever did that before, for console games at least.
I'm not sure if they ever did that before, for console games at least.
Cool. Thanks.
Very interested in seeing how scaleable the game is on mainstream cards like the 1060. 1080p/60 should be easily doable but lets see if 1440/60 is on the cards or not.
I think the problem has always been CPU related, looking at the recommended specs for PC.
At this point they should lock it to 30.
Not if you have a 120hz capable TV. Then the XB1X has a better frame rate.
I have my XB1X run through my Samsung HW-N950 - does that support 120hz?
Sorry can't watch it cause I am at work, but thank you very much for your reply and keep up the good work!
Problem with that is their shitty 30fps lock. >_<
You can't win with performance on console when it comes to From, unfortunately.
So, PC (or Stadia) it is, my 1X gets used less with every new release, devs need to give us video settings so we can get rid of unimportant things that sinks the performance or simply go with 1080p instead, this is not the type of game you want to play at fluctuating 35ish fps.
After experiencing DS3 at smooth 60fps I can't go back. All people that has a decent PC should grab this on that platform.
Guess I will play this two years from now at 60fps on the next generation of consoles. Praise be to backwards compatibility.
Not sure if patches and such have to get approved by the evil empire (aka Activision) first. But I hope so.
So basically for anyone playing on a TV (no, your 120 Hz TV does not accept 120 Hz signals), the Pro version is the way to go.
I don't think it's possible. The performance overhead just isn't there.
Sure it does. Many modern TVs accept 120hz input. The last two generations of LG OLEDs certainly do and there are many others.
Such a shame too. The game's focus on parry and deflecting can make things problematic.
I'll just play it on my friend's gaming laptop then.
Yikes. Bring out the PS5 and X-Box "4."
Performance is more important the graphics ffs. Tone it down and produce a stable frame rate please.
Performance is more important the graphics ffs. Tone it down and produce a stable frame rate please.
Like every other From Software game that has received huge critical acclaim? If these games were shit to play at these framerates then why all the game of the year awards? Smoother is better of course, but let's not make out Sekiro isn't still a great gameplay experience on console.
Dang I was really hoping for a 1080/60 mode on X. I'll probably go PC I guess but I really wanted to play this on my nice big 4k HDR TV.
I know I was able to stream DS3 to my TV via steam link at 1440p well enough. Would probably strip the HDR though if imagine.
Fuck it, maybe I'll just bring my PC downstairs for the weekend. I could probably hit 4k60 on high/mid on my PC
I know I was able to stream DS3 to my TV via steam link at 1440p well enough. Would probably strip the HDR though if imagine.
Fuck it, maybe I'll just bring my PC downstairs for the weekend. I could probably hit 4k60 on high/mid on my PC
I'm running my Xbox One X through my Samsung HW N950 Dolby Atmos Soundbar - will I be able to use the 120hz feature?
For reference, my TV is a Samsung Q9FN.
It's not really an issue for the consoles, it's an issue from developer side. This isn't really a staggeringly technically ambitious tittle, and there are developers out there who manage to deliver consistent performance while offering more ambition. Infact we've even seen smaller indie developers deliver more consistent performance.
From has had framepacing issues and performance issues since the PS360 days, they still had them in early PS4/Xbone days...and still have them now. If the framepacing isssue is caused due to lack of overhead then they could have focused on using the improvements they've made to the engine to build that overhead for rather than use it on additional graphical fidelity over what we saw in BB and DS3. It's suffice to say...it's just not a priority for them. If it was it'd have been dealt with long ago. And that's the strange part i.e. they make these games requiring quick response and based around parrying etc but do not prioritise a consistent performance.
I'm getting to the point now where if companies keep releasing these games unpolished, I just don't buy them. Or at the very least, buy them on the used market.
And annoyingly, it seems its always Japanese developers who keep getting this so wrong on AAA titles. Bloodborne, dark souls, final fantasy xv, kingdom hearts 3. The list goes on and on of titles that are just atrocious with not performance, but frame pacing. Do they have different tvs to us over there or what? Surely this is spotted at this point and just ignored because "the consumer will just lap it up anyway"
It's piss poor now and not acceptable. I decided after final fantasy I wasn't paying for games with issues like this and I'll continue to do so. Plenty more games where they get it right, or developers who correct problems down the way. Neither of which From or Square Enix etc bother doing.
And annoyingly, it seems its always Japanese developers who keep getting this so wrong on AAA titles. Bloodborne, dark souls, final fantasy xv, kingdom hearts 3. The list goes on and on of titles that are just atrocious with not performance, but frame pacing. Do they have different tvs to us over there or what? Surely this is spotted at this point and just ignored because "the consumer will just lap it up anyway"
It's piss poor now and not acceptable. I decided after final fantasy I wasn't paying for games with issues like this and I'll continue to do so. Plenty more games where they get it right, or developers who correct problems down the way. Neither of which From or Square Enix etc bother doing.
I got the impression they hid the Xbox version cause Sony got the marketing rights. They even just recently put up a Sony Underground Episode with it featured.
But yeah, I really don't know which version I want, tho I'm inclined to think the unlocked framerate is going to make PS4Pro's take off into orbit, noise wise.
Is there anything that can be done to get Sony to add 1440p/120hz output to Pro? Petition or twitter campaign? How do console-only gamers typically get something to get added?
Ah well that sucks, I'll just to deal with it then like I have with the others From games. It hasn't stopped me from loving Bloodborne, so hopefully it's the same with Sekiro.