I often find the publication history (or just in general why and how those decision were made) to be more interesting than the the in universe "history" itself, but it's so much harder to find that info.
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Disney asks LEGO to rename Slave 1 to Boba Fett's Starship
- Thread starter Saucycarpdog
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Star Wars has been for kids. It's just that adults want the franchise to grow up with them.
Star Wars has always been a children's franchise. Fans didn't whine about George Lucas "raping their adulthood."
I'm in agreement. While it's not worth making a big stink about, it often feels very counter productive to whitewash evil or immorality in fiction. Those things are in fiction for a reason, as moral absolutes to which our heroes strive for or against. When you keep dulling down the evil acts or practices of antagonists because of their real world parallels not only do you diminish the impact of the narrative, more importantly you set a precedent that these evils are to be ignored rather than discussed.
Max Rebo cares, that's who. You want to tell Max Rebo that it doesn't matter? Go on, tell him:
thats actually salacious crumb
"george washington already did that dear, would you settle for slave-9065435?"
Anyone upset about this is on par with the people dying on the hills of "you can't cancel Dr. Seuss!" and "he'll always be MISTER Potato Head to me!"
People losing their minds that they won't see the name on toy packaging anymore... wild.
The very adult franchise that Lucas brilliantly locked-up the toy rights to, and made a fortune on. Featuring such mature characters as the Ewoks, and Jar Jar Binks.
It seems like they're going out of the way *not* to rename it, they just don't want to sell a toy with "Slave" in the name.
Lord almighty, people.
Lord almighty, people.
I've a vague impression, probably from Tales of the Bounty Hunters, that Boba called it that because he slaved it to a remote device - it's a computer term.
This predated Jango's existence and Boba being turned into a clone.
Probably there are other in-universe explanations from different authors.
This predated Jango's existence and Boba being turned into a clone.
Probably there are other in-universe explanations from different authors.
Same reason they have a corner of Galaxy's Edge dedicated to selling First Order/Imperial propaganda merch. They need the fascism etc to seem "fun".
By the same logic, shouldn't the name of Boba Fett's ship not be nice??
No no, you misunderstand. They are prisoners with jobs.
Yeah if you're mad about this idk. It's not that important.
Like, you can still call itself that all you want. That's still its name. But for marketing/toy purposes it's Boba Fett's Starship. Only us nerds knew what it was called anyways.
Like, you can still call itself that all you want. That's still its name. But for marketing/toy purposes it's Boba Fett's Starship. Only us nerds knew what it was called anyways.
You know what else has caused untold misery throughout history? Wars. The thing that is the second part of the series title. Who perpetrated some of that? Knights. The title of the warriors within the order most fundamental to series.
The renaming of Slave 2 is an arbitrary thing to change; if that logic was taken to its ultimate extent, would result in the entire series not being suitable for children.
The renaming of Slave 2 is an arbitrary thing to change; if that logic was taken to its ultimate extent, would result in the entire series not being suitable for children.
Let me start by giving a general 'fuck Star Wars', in part for trivializing slavery as such a throwaway theme in its universe. When the fandom's closest association to the word 'slave' is 'Leia', you've probably done a really bad job of talking about slavery in your fiction.
But let me also say that I'm continuously disappointed in Disney for trying to have it both ways with Star Wars villains, who invoke slavery and Nazi imagery in one frame, and theme park appearances and toy sales in the next. Don't try to fuck around with these serious topics if you want people to join the Empire in your videogames.
But let me also say that I'm continuously disappointed in Disney for trying to have it both ways with Star Wars villains, who invoke slavery and Nazi imagery in one frame, and theme park appearances and toy sales in the next. Don't try to fuck around with these serious topics if you want people to join the Empire in your videogames.
Oh come on, people like First Order because of the cool white armor and the fact that people like bad guys in scifi shows, you don't really think it's popular because of fascism? I've hated fascism all my life, I've been against right-wing politics since I knew anything about politics, and still I find the First Order, Darth Vader, Kylo Ren - all that - very cool. I don't see any symbolism there, it's a made up faction in a made up world. "Propaganda merch"? :D Lol.
It's like saying Diablo fans like it because of satanism, lol :)
Ha, reminds of another 'slave' related part of Star Wars they don't seem to be in any hurry to alter.
I take this as part of their attempt to turn him into an anti-hero of sorts.
Not that big of an issue but truth is that Slave 1 was a great name. It hilighted how much of a prick he was. That he didn't care for the standards of decent society. That his ship was unique (even though Firespray is a class).
Not that big of an issue but truth is that Slave 1 was a great name. It hilighted how much of a prick he was. That he didn't care for the standards of decent society. That his ship was unique (even though Firespray is a class).
Because obviously Star Wars doesn't take any inspiration from real world fascism or historical allegory...
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Ha, reminds of another 'slave' related part of Star Wars they don't seem to be in any hurry to alter.
Do they still sell "Slave Leia" merchandise?
the name wasn't what made me like it. It was that cool flippy mechanism it does when it takes off and lands.
Official? Pretty sure no. And I don't think they refer to it as Slave Leia anymore. It's been talked about earlier in this thread.
These shots in the movie are direct references to Nazi propaganda films. It was intentionally made that way. Which would be fine if the intention was only to make anti-fascism commentary. But they turn around and sell these guys as toys and fun character experiences at the parks. You join their ranks in Star Wars games. It's all just one big both-sides farce.
But this didn't start with Disney so it's odd you're only pointing them out.
These shots in the movie are direct references to Nazi propaganda films. It was intentionally made that way. Which would be fine if the intention was only to make anti-fascism commentary. But they turn around and sell these guys as toys and fun character experiences at the parks. You join their ranks in Star Wars games. It's all just one big both-sides farce.
But regardless of the name or not, he does deal in slaves. His major moment in the OT that got him his popularity is literally selling Han Solo to Jabba the Hutt. Changing the name of the ship isn't going to change that fact.
I feel like saying Boba Fett sold Han Solo to Jabba the Hutt as a slave is a stretch. He was fulfilling a bounty, one sanctioned by the guild.
I guess it's all semantics at that point. How would you call a situation where one human (or Mandalorian, or whatever) being sells another human being for money against his will to someone else?
I mean, using your "Fett was a bounty hunter, Han Solo was a bounty, nothing to do with slavery" argument, someone could also argue the same way that slave catchers also had nothing to do with slavery itself. After all, they were also basically just bounty hunters that hunt people that got a bounty on them, they just were specialized a specific type of bounty.
Boba Fett is a villain that regularly dealt with fascists (The Empire) and definitely has handled in slaves/sentient beings and his appearance in Empire Strikes Back confirms this and honestly I feel a bit weird how Lucasfilm/Disney is now trying to turn Boba Fett in a hero. Of course, Disney properties have been shoddy with this kind of thing before. See for example how Yondu is somehow considered a good guy in Guardians of the Galaxy despite kidnapping and selling young children for years (and who knows what else).
Disney has owned Lucasfilm since 2012 and they basically rebooted it when they took over. There isn't another relevant party to point to.
