Disney produced an unprecedented 80 percent of the top box office hits this year
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For sure, I think I was just noting that there's still viewership and appeal outside Disney.
Loved End game, and your not wrong with this. Great story.
I'm not denying those facts, I just feel that the Fox merger had minimal to non-noticeable effects on Disney's success in terms of box office success so having OP talk about that with this doesn't seem relevant (I'd personally wager that Fox was a theatrical stain for them this year with Dark Phoenix and Stuber).
What does capitalism have to do with quality?
A movie studio making the majority of box office hits for the year which audiences want to see is NOT a monopoly.
A movie studio which also controls the means of distributing content through their internet telecommunications companies (AT&T/Warners or Comcast/Universal) is a monopoly.
And don't forget that Comcast wanted to buy Fox which would have been a much worse result, and people were rooting for this due to their hatred of Disney.
A movie studio which also controls the means of distributing content through their internet telecommunications companies (AT&T/Warners or Comcast/Universal) is a monopoly.
And don't forget that Comcast wanted to buy Fox which would have been a much worse result, and people were rooting for this due to their hatred of Disney.
They fired the Dark Phoenix marketing team, that movie was burried.
No, you are wrong on this. I have neither AT&T or Comcast, yet I'm able to see their content really really easily and legally. Even if it was the case, neither AT&T or Comcast has significant control over the general movie business. Unlike Disney which by now completely dominates all their competitors. You are almost saying Bing is a monopoly because it is owned by Microsoft which also does the OS for PC, while Google doesn't so it isn't one.
I don't know about that. I've been to Disney World.
Without a monopoly, how could they have built all those hotels?
Nothing, I would say if only one studio producing them can be bad.
None, the most successful Fox movie is at number 27
It's disney's Fault that people enjoy/connect with their IPs compared to all the other studios. /s
It's not just owning the IP, it's executing
people dont appreciate that
Think the unfortunate reality of this is that they now have a leg up to control the market place. It's not enough just to make an amazing film, people have to see it too.
And when Disney has enough financial support to dominate the market place by making their films more prominently displayed at theaters, ie encouraging longer runs for their films at the box office, having their own streaming service, as well as featuring their titles on multiple storefront due to their bottomless well (comparatively) of money they can dump into the marketing department, they force people to have to search for other titles. People tend to not want to search through numerous films when on the front page is a Disney movie that everyone is talking about.
It's not about quality, it's about the ability to stand so far above the competition that they control the market.
And when Disney has enough financial support to dominate the market place by making their films more prominently displayed at theaters, ie encouraging longer runs for their films at the box office, having their own streaming service, as well as featuring their titles on multiple storefront due to their bottomless well (comparatively) of money they can dump into the marketing department, they force people to have to search for other titles. People tend to not want to search through numerous films when on the front page is a Disney movie that everyone is talking about.
It's not about quality, it's about the ability to stand so far above the competition that they control the market.
Honestly - I don't really care if Disney owns all the blockbusters as long as they do a good job with them. They had a few stumbles like TRoS but overall the quality has been fine.
I don't know whether you remember, but pre-Disney acquisition, Marvel had to rely on licensing and third party movie and television distribution because they were a comics company with no internal media distribution assets. Marvel Studios initial deal with Paramount was from Iron Man to Avengers. Viacom/Paramount had the opportunity to outright buy Marvel but didn't even bother.
And Disney Animation returned to quality because the heads of Pixar restructured the company's management, release slate and changed the corporate culture of Disney's flagship animation studio to be more like Pixar's.
Even ignoring those major facts, Warner Bros and Universal release more movies than Disney does anyway.
Dark Phoenix was dead on arrival from the moment the movie was greenit to production.
It's insane how Disney actually made their fanboys believe that they consistently release good movies. No wonder auger is so concerned about Scorsese's comments.
People go to the cinema to watch brands now, and there's barely any brand stronger than what Disney owns.
People are so deep in free market capitalism that they are saying 'at least it ain't comcast' as if the only way to live is under a feudal corporate system or 'well, it must be because of the quality!' even though all their movies are now lowest common denominator fan service and nostalgia. Remakes and reinterpretations.
We dont have to live like this.
We dont have to live like this.
This makes me think about the Tarantino interview where he talked about how Disney practically forced a cinema to show Star Wars on Hateful Eights timespot. If they didnt show it at that time and date they wouldnt be allowed to show the Star Wars movie at all.
So yeah its technically not a monopoly, but if Disney can basically control the cinemas then theres a big problem.
So yeah its technically not a monopoly, but if Disney can basically control the cinemas then theres a big problem.
Disney released 13 movies this year. Then you have studios like Sony that released 22 films and WB which released 28. Don't really understand what's going on with other studios when they have IP just as valuable as the ones Disney has.
Story is wrong and has been disproven multiple times. Disney made a deal with the theatre months in advance. Tarantino didn't know about it and went on a rant without knowing the details.
Tends to happen when you make movies people want to see, and understand your market.
For all those talking about them buying their way in, lets take a look at when Disney bought Marvel. The end of 2009. What Marvel films were out at that time? Just Iron Man and Incredible Hulk. Iron Man was a huge success of course, but Hulk was a disappointment, only making its money back with video. If Disney hadn't bought Marvel, it's unlikely we'd be anywhere near where they are today.
How about when Disney bought Star Wars? The sequel trilogy was just an idea in Lucas's head, the Extended Universe was in a horrendous spot with the New Jedi Order, and the only media was Clone Wars. I know the Episode IX hate is approaching TLJ levels, but the chances of Lucas's sequel trilogy doing anything close to what Disney did is laughable considering Lucas's writing/directing.
Fox's contribution to the bottom line this year? Little to nothing.
Disney having bought IP doesn't mean they bought their way to the top. They still built the universes, developed the films, and spent the money. The question we should be asking is why every other studio's offering, with a few exceptions, failed to attract audiences.
There were hundreds of movies released in 2019. Disney released... Eleven. Less than one a month. Such a monopoly.
For all those talking about them buying their way in, lets take a look at when Disney bought Marvel. The end of 2009. What Marvel films were out at that time? Just Iron Man and Incredible Hulk. Iron Man was a huge success of course, but Hulk was a disappointment, only making its money back with video. If Disney hadn't bought Marvel, it's unlikely we'd be anywhere near where they are today.
How about when Disney bought Star Wars? The sequel trilogy was just an idea in Lucas's head, the Extended Universe was in a horrendous spot with the New Jedi Order, and the only media was Clone Wars. I know the Episode IX hate is approaching TLJ levels, but the chances of Lucas's sequel trilogy doing anything close to what Disney did is laughable considering Lucas's writing/directing.
Fox's contribution to the bottom line this year? Little to nothing.
Disney having bought IP doesn't mean they bought their way to the top. They still built the universes, developed the films, and spent the money. The question we should be asking is why every other studio's offering, with a few exceptions, failed to attract audiences.
There were hundreds of movies released in 2019. Disney released... Eleven. Less than one a month. Such a monopoly.
I do remember. My suggestion to this issue is when the split happens is to make one of the companies Marvel Media, which would have said assets. Would that not solve the issue if there were a split?
Shhh we'really not allowed to talk about how other studios are to blame for making movies nobody want to watch.
Let's also not mention how WB is owned by Time Warner which is even more powerful than Disney. That doesn't fit the Disney is a monopoly narrative thought so it goes unsaid.
There becomes a point where you can own so much IP/studios that it almost becomes irrelevant what the competition does, they simply won't be able to compete.
I don't really feel like Disney is at that point. They don't own Pokemon, DC, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Hello Kitty, etc. And this year they've put out fewer films than their competition have, it's just that the ones they did put out were the ones people wanted to see (irregardless of quality, which isn't really relevant).
Yup. Multiple stories about people being able to buy tickets at the dome, months before Christmas
Technically, Warner Bros is now owned by WarnerMedia which is an AT&T division. But the primary point you make is still correct, WarnerMedia owns so many television brands but nobody questions WarnerMedia because it doesn't have the theatrical popularity that Disney does.
Warner Bros Studios:
Warner Bros Pictures
New Line Cinema
DC Films
Warner Bros Animation
Also own DC Comics, Warner Bros Interactive Entertaiment (which own a number of video game studios as well), TV channels, and theme parks! And this is without mentioning the other stuff TimeWarner owns like sports channels.
Hmm look at all that junk they have. Some would say they might be even bigger than Disney!
I think it's obvious Disney is not stopping them from having the same type of success. Maybe if they made better movies they would have more success at the box office. But that Disney monopoly tho!
Crazy to me people say this. I feel like whenever someone has this opinion theyre only speaking about the big blockbusters and ignoring the fact that every we get insanely good movies by talented filmmakers, but because theyre not blockbusters they get ignored.
This is how I feel. Disney have made acquisitions that have paid off for now, but the other studios are just making bad decisions. No one is stopping them from making good movies or putting the effort in to try and set up better franchises.
Ironically by this definition, Disney had a monopoly before buying FOX
Yeah, but if you care about the quality of said IP, giving them to Comcast is the worst possible choice. Comcast already owns NBC/Universal, so I believe it's better if a non telecom owns Fox.
Disney just knows how to use their IP in that article you quoted they even explains this "Contrary to popular belief, Disney doesn't own all the important IP. Warner Bros. has Harry Potter, DC Comics, and Game of Thrones. Sony has Spider-Man. Universal has the Fast and Furious and Despicable Me franchises. The biggest difference is Sony and Warner Bros. have suffered a series of critical failures whereas Disney's films (especially Marvel titles) have largely done well enough. If the quality of Disney movies starts to slide, so will box office tickets."