Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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Yea I need to see more details but people are fooling themselves if they're thinking Disney didn't ask for too much in some way which caused Sony to say no dice. There are Disney shills all over Era though so no surprise.
That's too bad for Marvel because Sony is going to run the franchise into the dirt.
Maaaaaan, Disney really fucked up.
I still hope this is all PR posturing andd we will get a new deal somewhere down the line.
I still hope this is all PR posturing andd we will get a new deal somewhere down the line.
There's no way they keep Spidey out of the MCU.
It's too big of an IP for Disney to lose; they will either re-negotiate or accept the same deal as before.
It's too big of an IP for Disney to lose; they will either re-negotiate or accept the same deal as before.
So sony should swallow hundreds of millions because it's the wrong play? That' not how business works, it's not a charity.
Also I'm sorry but LOL at selling your ps4 because disney tried to screw over sony.
Now watch as the Spider-Man movies become great again but reviewed lower than previous 2 movies because they are not marvel
Feel free to explain why a company would offer to co-finance a production without expecting anything in return?
Even better; they call up Tobey to play Ben Reilly as the Scarlet Spider
BUBUBU ARROGANT SONY
The Disney shilling in Era has never been more evident than in this thread.
Yeah, doing endgame without Spiderman locked down for the next phase is a really really weird decision
Oh damn...this is rough news all around. But I say Disney folds. Sony has all the leverage. Feige went and made Spider-Man a super integral part of the MCU going forward. I don't see what's in it for Sony to give on their end of the deal.
I'm surprised Disney doesn't just try to freaking buy the movie rights for Spider-Man back from Sony outright at this point. It would cost an absurd, ridiculous amount, but Disney could do it.
I'm surprised Disney doesn't just try to freaking buy the movie rights for Spider-Man back from Sony outright at this point. It would cost an absurd, ridiculous amount, but Disney could do it.
I hope people realize that this was NOT Sony's fault.
From reading the article they were content on keeping the deal like it has been for the past few years, which saw success for both studios in regards to this property.
Since Marvel also has the rights to the merchandise (Sony sold them the rights back in like 2011 or 12 I believe) this was a windfall for both studios regardless of who got what (merchandise makes FAR more moeny then any of the movies).
However Feige/Disney wanted more, 50% of each movie (in the current deal Sony gets all money for the stand alone spidey, and marvel gets all for the MCU w/spidey in them IIRC) and it seemed like they wanted 50% of all Spidey properties (so Venom, etc not just the spider-man movies).
Seems like a case of Disney wanting to be super greedy (who would have thunk it?) and Sony just saying "Nope, we can do it ourselves again."
A Shame too, because like before Marvel/Disney LOVES to stop making shit for a property they don't own the movie rights to, so the chances of us seeing another Spidey game? I'd wager next to null, just like they did with the X-Men when Fox had the rights, they don't want to create things that made help boost another studios movie/property.
From reading the article they were content on keeping the deal like it has been for the past few years, which saw success for both studios in regards to this property.
Since Marvel also has the rights to the merchandise (Sony sold them the rights back in like 2011 or 12 I believe) this was a windfall for both studios regardless of who got what (merchandise makes FAR more moeny then any of the movies).
However Feige/Disney wanted more, 50% of each movie (in the current deal Sony gets all money for the stand alone spidey, and marvel gets all for the MCU w/spidey in them IIRC) and it seemed like they wanted 50% of all Spidey properties (so Venom, etc not just the spider-man movies).
Seems like a case of Disney wanting to be super greedy (who would have thunk it?) and Sony just saying "Nope, we can do it ourselves again."
A Shame too, because like before Marvel/Disney LOVES to stop making shit for a property they don't own the movie rights to, so the chances of us seeing another Spidey game? I'd wager next to null, just like they did with the X-Men when Fox had the rights, they don't want to create things that made help boost another studios movie/property.
The only Spider Tobey can play nowadays is a severely degenerating Kaine who's three feet from the grave.
The one where Black Panther's first solo film out performed Spider-Man.
What planet you posting from?
I don't see how that kills their current deal, if Sony is telling Disney that they would rather still be on the hook 100% cost wise, and keep the current deal in place. So this whole thing fell apart because neither side could agree on whether Sony should allow Disney to help financing the films in exchange for more control?
The Far From Home illusion scene of Mysterio was the best ten minutes of a Spiderman movie ever made
I wanna stay hopeful but we all know Sony will never do something a tenth as good as this
I wanna stay hopeful but we all know Sony will never do something a tenth as good as this
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, post Iron Man and Cap America, Marvel Studios arguably needs Spidey more than Sony does.
I suspect this is just a form of aggressive negotiation, Sony is just posturing to get a better deal I would think, since a third MCU Spidey might be a ways off, they have a little bit of time to reneg their deal, albeit in public, I can't imagine it's going to be worst case scenario here, Sony's just using its newly gained truckloads of money to squeeze Marvel a bit, hopefully there's a compromise.
I don' think Disney shills exist in the traditional sense. Reality itself is a MCU shill at this point.
DIsney knows it too. They have allllllll the goodwill from public, hell. This news becoming public kills a lot of Sony's negotiation power.
isnt holland going to be nate drake in those uncharted movies? cant imagine he'll make sony upset
You don't make a lowball offer on your first try
And Marvel pulls Feige's time (maybe others) when they could be planning the next FF4, X-Men films.
MCU is what pulled Spidey out of the garbage after ASM2
the current mcu released a movie last year starring a hero that made more money than any spider-man film on his first try
the current mcu released a movie this year starring a hero that made more money than any spider-man film on her first try
i think they'll be ok
and Sony fans be like
Yeah, if this means we get a fast tracked Miss Marvel movie I am happy.
You know Disney/Marvel is sitting there thinking that they were able to make GotG and other B tier Marvel properties into a huge success without paying anyone else.
They already have too many characters and not enough movies planned. I'm sure they figured out that they don't really need Spiderman.
They already have too many characters and not enough movies planned. I'm sure they figured out that they don't really need Spiderman.
I mean x men in games weren't related to the movie deal either. But Marvel was angry and petty. I dont put anything past them they have already shown the behaviour before.
Then at least all the old cartoons would be easy to find on physical media.
Nah, they were nobodies before. MCU already has 2 new billion dollar solos in Carol & T'Challa.
So I guess this means all those characters who Marvel created for the MCU can't be used anymore.
(From what I heard, they are now "frozen" unable to be used by either Marvel or Sony)
(From what I heard, they are now "frozen" unable to be used by either Marvel or Sony)
Well, if Sony is going through a tantrum and as a result going to damage his career... I can see it happening? Maybe? I can def see the director bowing out.
With Captain Marvel and Black panther making a billion they don't.
They can make a new face for the MCU in a minute.
Difference is that Spider-man can stand on its own as a franchise.
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