Doctor Who: The Fifteenth Doctor |OT| Ncuti Stars (Season 1 debuts on May 10th/11th)
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Yeah, because they leave EVERYTHING ambiguous. We see Ruby seeing from the woman's perspective. That's all we get.
He wrote some of the best episodes of the entire show. He ran one of the most popular runs the show ever had. I have my issues with him too but come on.
This made me laugh. Just tossing a grenade into the thread.
idk i just think he writes profoundly terrible television. i think uncritically enjoying what he makes and being a fan of his run on dr who is actually a fairly big indictment of somebody's taste levels and...tbh intelligence lmao. not to throw too much of a secondary grenade but heyo.
Blink was some kind of insane fluke and might be the only good media he ever created.
he truly writes some of the dumbest television i've ever seen. he is so bad at it
Blink was some kind of insane fluke and might be the only good media he ever created.
he truly writes some of the dumbest television i've ever seen. he is so bad at it
lmao this is one of the most condescending and arrogant posts I've seen in a Doctor Who thread. Speak your truth on Moffat's writing all you want, many of us do, but this "it really speaks to people's intelligence when they like the most popular episodes of the entire show" is so silly. Get over yourself just a tad.
lmao. It wasn't that bad, just typical Moffat Doctor Who, but I agree with your first statement. We need a younger RTD to take the reins of the show.
In all seriousness, i think Moffat is the same as RTD in that he's very much a mixed writer in that he can write bangers but also suffers from his own writing quirks and charcter archetypes.
Personally i see RTD staying on board for 4-5 more years and building up a new sucessor.
Uh, alright then. I agree that I didn't like the mine episode, but that's way over the top, it's definitely not that serious and Dr. who isn't supposed to be some prestige TV thing. It's often a completely dumb show.
To paraphrase the Star wars threads recently, this is a show about a alien in a time travelling police box running around and solving problems with a magic screwdriver and should be treated with that level of seriousness.
To paraphrase the Star wars threads recently, this is a show about a alien in a time travelling police box running around and solving problems with a magic screwdriver and should be treated with that level of seriousness.
I guess congrats on insulting most of the people in this thread?
Pepole complain about the camp not realising that under RTD is where Doctor Who was its most campy and insane in the reboot era
Anyone who likes Donna as a companion is, frankly, a dumbass. Just the stupidest people out there.
This is one of the most moronic posts I've ever read on Era. Which is quite an achievement. So congrats on that I guess? But heyo.
I was going to make a joke about how just like the Doctor(s) had to play catch with the Toymaker, this is obviously hinting at playing hopscotch with "the one who waits" buuuuut...
And I think you wrote one of the dumbest posts in this thread. You're so bad at it. I think uncritically writing this post is a fairly big indictment of somebody's taste and... tbh intelligence.
lmao come on.
I'm not the biggest fan of Moffat but I recognize he can write Legendary episodes every now and then. I agree Boom wasn't the freshest episode and is unmistakably similar to what Moffat has written but that's the only criticism I can make about it.
Both RTD and Moffat have written some of the very best, and some of the absolute worst episodes in the entire 60+ years of Doctor Who. For all their differences, they share so many similarities in how they approach writing the show. It's probably one of the reasons they enjoy working together so much. I certainly understand preferring one over the other, maybe even drastically so, but that's just unhinged.
Their Birds in a very Campy Father, RTD and Moffat are. I think at points trying to be too serious and dramatic severly impacted the Chibnall era.
This is trolling in the most depressing way. I have a lot of issues with some of his seasons, but he's also done some great episodes.
And calling out peoples intelligence because of a difference in taste makes you come off as an absolute ass. Be better.
"you're trolling"
good comeback i guess moffat is actually really good at writing tv i was just being silly, you got me
good comeback i guess moffat is actually really good at writing tv i was just being silly, you got me
Like pretty much all writers, he has his hits and his misses. There is not a writer alive with a 100% hit rate, I imagine.
We were all getting along, debating if the spooky story was too vague or a nice level of vagueness. Then POW.
BOOM, even.
Casting aspersions on strangers' intelligence over liking something you don't like is a much bigger indictment of yourself.
if my job was a plumber and 95 out of 100 of my installs, while technically functional, had leaks
i would simply stop being a plumber
I didn't realize plumbing was a creative art form with a heavy emphasis on subjectivity. Dang, that's changed my entire outlook on plumbing!
You just ain't got no interest interacting with this community today, huh? Come in here, immediately start shit talking everyone who isn't you, and now you're the victim.
...right
do we think they'll release this season on 4k bluray or does the beeb not touch the format?
do we think they'll release this season on 4k bluray or does the beeb not touch the format?
This analogy doesn't work at all when applied to a medium whose appreciation is entirely subjective.
Your superior intelligence is just taking hit after hit!
User banned (2 weeks): trolling over a series of posts; threadbanned from the thread
if somebody likes something that was clearly aimed at and created for, dumb people, by a dumb person
i dont think its unfair to assume that person might be dumb lmao.
nothing subjective about it, he writes objectively stupid and bad television, that on the surface level, tries to appear as if it is very smart, but is in fact severely dumb.
liking it is, imo, a big ol red flag that somebody's """""media literacy"""" (dumb and misused expression but whatever it will get my point across here), is nigh-on non existent.
RTD is camp, knows it, and doesn't pretend to be anything else. praise be that he is back in charge
what part of that post made you think i was trying to act like the victim. reading comprehension also not the best in here huh.
Nope, stop right there. You are trying to pretend that you're getting criticized for saying Moffat is a bad writer. But that's very dishonest. Sure, you are being very hyperbolic about his quality, given most people liked his seasons. But Moffat gets criticized here all the time. By many of the people pushing back on what you said, myself included.
The problem with your post is that you started insulting people for their tastes, literally calling them stupid for liking what they like. That ON TOP of the "he should be fired!!!" hyperbole is what makes your posts so condescending and nonsensical.
If you can't see how pulling a "Moffat fans must be of bad taste and low intelligence" post out of nowhere makes you come across as an asshole, then you need to really take a step back and start listening to people. Because you look terrible right now and it has nothing to do with which Doctor Who writer you prefer.
Edit: and as I was writing this you doubled down on it. Get over yourself.
Lmao AND you pulled out the "media literacy" and "reading comprehension" bits. You're not just a clown, you're the most predictable clown possible. Go back to reddit or wherever you came from and come back when you're ready to talk about media like an adult.
I...don't think this is as objectively true as you seem to think.
Steven Moffat doesn't write camp.
Also Steven Moffat:
The irony is, everyone in this thread could probably write an essay on the many faults of Steven Moffat. The person who loves and respects his work more than anyone here is Russell T Davies. That severely dumb idiot.
Also Steven Moffat:
The irony is, everyone in this thread could probably write an essay on the many faults of Steven Moffat. The person who loves and respects his work more than anyone here is Russell T Davies. That severely dumb idiot.
Stirring up all this shit and you haven't even seen the episode everyone was discussing before you came in here with your incendiary bullshit, huh.
Hoping your just get thread banned or you know, just quit posting in the thread, because I'm not sure why any community would want someone who just acts like a complete ass to anyone who doesn't share their opinion.
There's been 4k releases before, some of 13s episodes were. And I think Capaldis last episode. Though the 2023 specials would probably be the indicator and there's none for that yet.
I remembered Capaldi's last episode getting one but I missed it happening for some of 13's. Good point on the 2023 specials though, dang.
Apparently the Capaldi 4K release was a test balloon for the BBC, but didn't sell well. Hope they come to their senses at some point.
Bit of an odd one to test things with since that would've just been an upscale. Bleh...
Indeed. Odd is definitely the right way to describe many of the decisions the BBC make in regard to home media.
Thank you. Sorry if I went too far with my responses.
So, back on track, that 73 Yards, huh?
I would be interested in us taking an actual poll of what we think The Woman is.
Could've been something to do with her whole christmas/snow/orphan thing.
I agree. I've liked every episode so far, which is a pretty good success rate for a season of Who. This latest episode was a standout for me. It's probably my favourite episode of the show in years.
I just read it as being Ruby, but I guess it's not impossible they will tie it to her backstory in some way.
I hope they don't, though. The episode works in large part because of its ambiguity. The moment it would be made explicit, a lot of the surreal atmosphere that made it so special would just evaporate.
What? That's not the Woman's purpose, that's just how she ends up stopping him.
And she's being punished by the Fae for her transgression. You complaining she doesn't have any agency in fixing things is akin to saying a perpetrator should be able to choose their own sentence. Your mistake is thinking that she got cursed. She didn't. She's being punished. Fits perfectly with the stories around Fae etc.
Edit: Also, because you keep bringing up agency: Exactly what agency did Donna have? Her life sucked, someone tells her to turn left instead. That's barely agency, especially since she wasn't even aware things were off. In fact, you could argue Ruby actually has more agency, since she at least knows what happened. Hard to have agency if you're ignorant about your circumstances.
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