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Does "barely legal" pornography normalize pedophilia/reinforce misogyny?
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2 things to note here:
1) "Barely legal" still means legal, in other words 18 or 18+ years old.
2) Being attacted to 18 or 18+ year olds is not pedophilia, therefore it does not make sense to ask "Does "barely legal" pornography normalize pedophilia"
1) "Barely legal" still means legal, in other words 18 or 18+ years old.
2) Being attacted to 18 or 18+ year olds is not pedophilia, therefore it does not make sense to ask "Does "barely legal" pornography normalize pedophilia"
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Oh no, you guys do ban people for genuinely having bad opinions
While I don't think that's a problem, it IS something ya'll do alot
It's the term that's weird. It doesn't matter if they're 25. It's communicating to the (potential) viewer that "we would go younger if we could, but this is as young as we can get that's still legal." That's creepy.
How are the tubes with this? I always thought that their moderation is strict with this.
Also I guess that pedos are not dumb enough to upload CP in pages that are not part of the deep web
It's okay to be attracted to them (people done with puberty), it's wrong to act on it.
As for the porn, I agree it sort of promotes pedophillia. However I also think a distinction needs to be made between fantasizing and acting on your impulses. If every porno we watched resulted in us doing the actual act, this world be 1000x more times fucked up than it actually is, and eating ass would be universal.
As for the porn, I agree it sort of promotes pedophillia. However I also think a distinction needs to be made between fantasizing and acting on your impulses. If every porno we watched resulted in us doing the actual act, this world be 1000x more times fucked up than it actually is, and eating ass would be universal.
Most of the Tube sites are basically owned by the larger porn companies, many of which are based in America. Any CP on the sites would be at the liability of the owners, so, they'd be arrested/raided. If you look up Wiki for the sites you'll see where they are/who owns them.
If we're talking Pornhub specifically, if you're watching a verified user, the checks are usually in place, but anything that's randomly uploaded generally has no paperwork attached, so no one has any proof of what age the performers are or aren't. The further down the tube site rabbit hole you get, the worse it gets (with the person I mentioned earlier, Traci Lords, being a good example of this).
Actually, most of the tube sites that people actually visit are owned by ONE company, and that company has never been based in the US. Mindgeek/Manwin/Mansef started out as a Canadian company based in Montreal, and then got bought out and moved their headquarters to Europe. Most of the other tube sites out there aren't based in the US either.
The HQ of mindgeek, yes, but the HQ of some of the individual tubes are in the States. Most porn creation goes on in America. Slightly ironic given America's puritanical roots, Bible Belt and continued views that sex and sexuality is more offensive than fictional violent media.
Pornhub is the biggest, which has its HQ in Canada, but when that poster referred to "Tube sites" I assumed outwith Pornhub. Even the smaller ones which you might think have less eyes watching them, are still often based in America, or at least in other European countries with the age of porn production at 18+.
The greater point for that poster is no, none of the known Tube sites is going to be hosting CP because it's illegal and they are all based in countries where they'd be arrested and criminally charged. Or they could be extradited too.
If you're on this site, you're part of "you guys." Unless you're some troll from another website, which surely you wouldn't be? No, impossible.
That is ture, but I don't do the banning and the moderation, so that's why I said "you guys"
My apologies
This.
There's nothing inherently wrong about pornography of 18~20 year olds. They are adults, period. It's marketing such porn as them being just barely old enough to not get you arrested, implying "hey you really should want even YOUNGER people, wink".
I'm sure there are some people into this type of porn who really do just like the breaking of taboos itself, and not so much the "they're VERY young" aspect, but the fact so many of these pair the actors/actresses with, like, teddy bears and such, and rarely feature the subject women with large breasts or subject men with significant facial hair indicates the producers at least think otherwise. Not saying small chested women or twinks are inherently non-adult, no sir, but I mean, when they're paired with "barely legal" and the trappings of naivete or childhood, it's a bit weird.
It's creepy. It's one thing to be attracted to and turned on by someone its another to specifically look for individuals that would have landed your ass in jail a short time prior. Essentially it feels like if you're looking specifically for men and women in this category you have specific desires that you choose not to act on simply because of an arbitrary date.
You mean the not your mother, not your aunt, not your cousin. They way they are rebranding incest porn is crazy.
Whatever the age of consent is, that's what it is. I don't care for storylines and role-play in porn. All I'm looking at is acts and bodies. I don't care for the barely legal category but if I start a porn and they confirm she's 18 I'm not going to necessarily turn it off.
In real life, even if 17 is legal in NY I just find dudes that go after young girls lame as fuck. The article nails it on the head that they want an inexperienced person they can control because they are lame and insecure. To me, highschool and college age folks are just immature kids with grown bodies. Older women in their late 20s and 30s+ are way more attractive.
I think the category moreso normalizes misogyny than pedophilia.
In real life, even if 17 is legal in NY I just find dudes that go after young girls lame as fuck. The article nails it on the head that they want an inexperienced person they can control because they are lame and insecure. To me, highschool and college age folks are just immature kids with grown bodies. Older women in their late 20s and 30s+ are way more attractive.
I think the category moreso normalizes misogyny than pedophilia.
I actually got started in sex work when I was 18, for nude modeling and occasionally video work. I didn't really look young. However I did have friends who got very popular because they looked younger than their age. Some of the stuff they read about themselves online was V I L E.
I think the "barely legal" genre of porn is a bit creepy, but it really represents the obsession with very young women. It's legal, yes but really hits the nail on the head in societys obsession with youth and vulnerability. Like now that I'm in my early 30s, the most work I can expect to get in porn is MILF stuff, yay....
Shows like Riverdale that sexualize young people, even if played by much older adults, is definitely creepy I agree.
I think the "barely legal" genre of porn is a bit creepy, but it really represents the obsession with very young women. It's legal, yes but really hits the nail on the head in societys obsession with youth and vulnerability. Like now that I'm in my early 30s, the most work I can expect to get in porn is MILF stuff, yay....
Shows like Riverdale that sexualize young people, even if played by much older adults, is definitely creepy I agree.
We are on a gaming site. I personally find all of the Japanese games that have "young looking" women half naked a little repulsive. It seems as if it isn't a big deal at least here. I saw this one game where you were like massaging a woman's legs and boobs. In my head I'm like what is happening. Why is this being developed and who gets off on this. Just my opinion. It's legal then I guess it is what it is.
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Yes we do, pedophilia is deemed unnatural by psychologist while being attracted to older teens is not.
Calling people that are attracted to 16+ years old pedophiles just diminishes the whole thing.
A lot of people are actually more concerned about that than an industry which is one of the most regulated things in existence (the porn industry).
No mainstream porn producers are doing anything illegal or underage. Games on the other hand because of the veneer of "it's not real people", are depicting literal children or those that pass as children. Then before anyone says, "but some porn actresses look young". Well, you know for a fact they are of age, which is factual elevation from "an artist is just telling you". Something which, for better or worse, will get pointed out when one talks about the grossness of "barely legal teen". Irrespective of genuine issues with the wording/implication, no one in the porn industry on mainstream websites are under 18.
Not to mention many games and anime don't even bother to try to hide, they just straight up put 14~15-year-olds into highly sexualized situations.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I always saw the anime games kind of weird just because of how highly sexualized they are and it seemed no one cared. These developers seem to get off on making these games. I just find it creepy. I hate to be judgemental. I usually just stay away and know those games aren't for me.
Same. It's not pedophilia, don't call people who watch porn of adults pedophiles for fuck's sake.
Searching for porn with the terms that lead to porn where the actresses or actors are younger or to be believed younger can be a fine line between its ok this feels normal and its weird and creepy and sometimes or a lot of times that line is blurred or crossed to legal extent of the law.
Many people care, so much so an actual platform holder is cracking down on it. Well, 2 to be fair, Valve is acting along with Sony.
There have even been convictions
https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/uk-manga-fan-convicted-for-loli-possession/
Which is what differentiates accusations of thought-crime because words used on legal porn sites, from people being in possession of content that cannot be validated in the same way as legal porn actresses/actors can. What you are watching on pornhub just isn't illegal, or CP, no matter what crude and rude shit it gets tagged with.
Lines/ethics to ask questions around, yes, but that needs to be done without hyperbole and what I'll say is probably some hypocrisy at times (given on a forum this size I don't doubt most have watched teen porn, even into 20's and 30's). Does the descriptor (or content) of the video potentially cause a disgust response and/or you avoiding it? Yeah, sure, quite possibly so. Does it change the legality of the actor(s)? Nope.
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I don't really see a problem here.. adults have their own prefered kinks and sex fantasies - I know women who like to have sex with young guys, I know girls who like "rape fantasies", guys who like to have sex when dressed as toddlers, etc.. if their sex fantasies don't hurt anybody and everyone agrees with the sex practices they are going to partake in and it's not breaking any law, who do I care what they do in their sex lives
I personally take umbrage with the fantasy and illusions that a lot of these barely legal porns perpetuate.
Seems to me that people are divorcing themselves from this by resting on the notion that all the actors are of age so it's whatever.
A reality style casting couch type porno that's framed as a person being "barely legal" and is trying to break into industry and gets fucked by a talent manager is different than a scene where a legally aged person is dressed up as some school girl with pigtails where the entire thing is framed as her needing to suck off her teacher so she doesn't fail social studies.
There are two types of straight men: Those who find young women (who've gone through puberty) attractive and lying liars who lie.
Ooh, telling poll results. Era showing its ass today.
"Barely Legal" is disgusting. You're literally saying "if she were any younger you'd be in jail"
For the record, i think 18 is too young to do porn. You're still in high school. You can't even buy a beer but you can get reemed out on film for worldwide distribution?
I love when localizers change the age or just remove it as if that changes the author's intent.
"Barely Legal" is disgusting. You're literally saying "if she were any younger you'd be in jail"
For the record, i think 18 is too young to do porn. You're still in high school. You can't even buy a beer but you can get reemed out on film for worldwide distribution?
I love when localizers change the age or just remove it as if that changes the author's intent.
What if I think that if the state decides that you're a legal adult at 18, that means you should be able to decide what you want to do with your own body, and that includes drinking alcohol and getting "reemed out on film for worldwide distribution"? There's a separate question that can be asked on when people should be considered legal adults, but I think's that a more nebulous question.
Well, if you want to talk about WW distribution, most people in Europe are College/Uni at 18, and the legal drinking age tends to be 18. Only America is really 21 for alcohol, and that's not even countrywide. I think a few states are 18. The age of 18 is a long considered point of maturity where someone "fully" becomes an adult. It's an arbitrary decision by humanity, yes, but we have tried to use science via biology and psychology to come to this decision.
18 is largely based off an age where full adult ownership is "handed off" to you from the state to do what you want with your body and self. You'd probably find many actresses/actors would object to you saying the state should make porn, what, 21 (or older)? Ironically speaking of College/Uni, quite a few use porn and things like those cam sites to pay for College/Uni.
So a desire to make the age higher than that of many other adult decisions gets you into the ethical embroilment with those that say they want to use their autonomy to make money from the adult industry at such an age. This is probably where intersectional clashes arrive from pro-sex feminists and those that are feminists (male or female) that have a more conservative outlook around sexual autonomy.
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I have nothing against people of legal age engaging in sex work. I have nothing against people of all legal ages finding each other attractive. I've know people with age gaps many on this site would condemn have very positive relationships. This, imo, is not the problem.
The problem is the framing, the "barely legal" aspect. It's encouraging people with desires for underage sex to get a kick from people who appear to be underage. The entire thing feels very creepy, and I don't think appealing to people who want girls who appear underage for their kicks is a healthy thing to do at all.
The problem is the framing, the "barely legal" aspect. It's encouraging people with desires for underage sex to get a kick from people who appear to be underage. The entire thing feels very creepy, and I don't think appealing to people who want girls who appear underage for their kicks is a healthy thing to do at all.
I would say that a lot of people really regret getting into porn and 18 is an age where you make stupid decisions that don't consider or care how you'll be effected in the future.
Also this. Spot on.
If you're old enough to fuck, you're old enough to make a living doing it.
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An anecdote isn't evidence of an epidemic. Lots of people make stupid decisions. In fact, most are still doing so when they are 60. I get what you're saying, but not everyone in the porn industry, or who has used cams, regrets their choices.
Yes, we live in the internet age, where the internet doesn't forget, so good education in school, especially with sex education, is required to try and help prepare people not to go and do something they regret.
But such is the choice of "free will". You can be advised, educated and even directly told, but still end up making your own mistakes. Some easy to learn from, some possibly with bigger consequences like having yourself getting fucked on camera archived online for life.
"People make mistakes" just isn't carte blanche to always be changing society for everyone. Not everyone has the same sensitivities and desires for their legacy on earth.
You gonna use this argument for teens who start having sex at 15?
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