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Donald J. Trump has been impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives.

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nintendoman58 said:
What are you even trying to insuate with this? That his support will magically increase when he spent his his entire presidency with his approval in the range of 35-42%?!?

That article you linked literally means nothing because his support has always been at that level.
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Polls. He was at 30% in dec 2015. That article says he will dwindle based on the polls. He did the opposite. Polls in October 2016 had Clinton running away with the Presidency.
Polls 11 months out mean nothing.

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You also proved my point that no one reads pass the title. Thinking it was about the 2020 election lmao
 
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Netherscourge said:
Typical Trump - criticizing the Security and Police at his rally tonight for being too professional toward a protestor as they escorted her out without any violence.

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This man is dangerous. I'm upset that he's captured the minds of my fellow citizens in my state. Does the man actually speak of plans for 2020 or does he just spew hate speech? Please wake up Michigan.
 
Wrexis

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I heard some Republicans are saying Trump should be campaigning to be the first impeached President to be re-elected.
 
Funky Dude Sparks

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Yes there's a whole shit load of establishment symbolism and we can all bemoan that

but impeaching the president in his first term is pretty impressive even if it is Nancy Pelosi
 
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nintendoman58 said:
What are you even trying to insuate with this? That his support will magically increase when he spent his his entire presidency with his approval in the range of 35-42%?!?

That article you linked literally means nothing because his support has always been at that level.



How are we still doing "But polls in 2016 said..." in 2019?

Yeah Trump was unlikely to win in 2016, but he managed to barely squeak through thanks to low Dem voter turnout in three key states. His victory was within the margin of error of those polls. It doesn't make those polls wrong.
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You are wasting your time. I'm not gonna bother wasting anymore of mine. It's straight up concern trolling and they have no intention of stopping.
 
Funky Dude Sparks

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I grow tired of pessimism from people here

I also grow tired of the liberals wanting to go back to normal

the differing side of the brain worms is mutual I guess
 
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Lautar0 said:
I kinda took a break from lurking in this forum a while ago (because my country was going thru some rough stuff) but I can see the same types of demoralizing posts still continue.
I wonder why a person that feels that nothing will work against Trump (not even impeachment but also elections) would feel the need to constantly trying to infect other people with their defeatism. You don't have energy to protest or anything but somehow have energy to tell everyone else every day that nothing will work. Curious.
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Fucking thank you. I blame it on Era's insistence to constantly see the negative in situations. I have no idea how we cultivated such an ass backwards habit, but it infects nearly every thread on this forum.


Awesome Kev said:
Yes. Lose the battle, win the war and all that.


Win 2020 by not looking like idiots doing useless shit like this. When he doesn't get removed from office, this will be an L for the Dems and Teflon Don is going to throw in their face.
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It's crazy that you believe ignoring impeachment and not doing their job would achieve anything besides demoralizing and depressing dem turn-out in 2020.

Actually crazy, and runs counter to current polls and conventional wisdom.
 
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efr said:
See my post above.
Polls said Trump would fade in 2016. Thanks for talking down to me and dismissing me! I love talking to people who talk like Trump
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Polls do not predict the future. They state current voter intentions. Please educate yourself.
 
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efr said:
Polls. He was at 30% in dec 2015. That article says he will dwindle based on the polls. He did the opposite. Polls in October 2016 had Clinton running away with the Presidency.
Polls 11 months out mean nothing.

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You also proved my point that no one reads pass the title. Thinking it was about the 2020 election lmao
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The polls showed that Clinton was likely to win the presidency. It didn't say it was a guarantee.

Trump's victory was still within the margin of error, and I say again, he managed to squeak by in three states that he lost support in in 2018.
 
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Netherscourge said:
Typical Trump - criticizing the Security and Police at his rally tonight for being too professional toward a protestor as they escorted her out without any violence.

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I think if Trump had total power, he would be "an eye for an eye" person and would let anyone take barbaric means to fuel themselves. He did say at one rally that he would pay for anyone's legal fees if they punched a protester.
 
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UrbanDandy said:
I think if Trump had total power, he would be "an eye for an eye" person and would let anyone take barbaric means to fuel themselves. He did say at one rally that he would pay for anyone's legal fees if they punched a protester.
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Hahaha "pay". That would be hilarious considering how often he didn't pay for his own lawyer fees.

He doesn't give a shit.
 
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Funky Dude Sparks said:
I grow tired of pessimism from people here

I also grow tired of the liberals wanting to go back to normal

the differing side of the brain worms is mutual I guess
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People need to realize that normal has flown out the window and is never coming back.

The GOP isn't going to wake up one morning, admit their wrong and things go back to how they were.

They're going to continue down this path because it's the only way they can placate their moronic base.
 
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Funky Dude Sparks said:
wow

do you think any working class/lower middle class american is worried about their healthcare or the president? I mean in terms of future uncertainty


The Real America bullshit tends to run interference to the fact that there actually there is tone deaf approach that the liberal/political establishment tends to give the average american (not just white american, every american) It's just like fucking ECONOMIC ANXIETY that every liberal here tends to make fun but either fatefully ignore or just write off there are actual areas of americas (entire counties, maybe even states) where they are bleeding money because austerity and other conservative fuckery that will never be addressed because the liberals don't want to face those issues.
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Acting like corruption is just metropolitan elite liberal concern is bullshit. Actual real Americans care about this. The polling confirms it.

You sound like a Republican when arguing that real Americans don't care about this.

efr said:
See my post above.
Polls said Trump would fade in 2016. Thanks for talking down to me and dismissing me! I love talking to people who talk like Trump
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Polls did not. They, in fact, got the result of the election exactly within their MoE.

Again, if you don't know how to read a poll, it's fine. But you're doing peak Dunning-Kruger right now and it's pretty grating.
 
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KoopaTheCasual said:
Fucking thank you. I blame it on Era's insistence to constantly see the negative in situations. I have no idea how we cultivated such an ass backwards habit, but it infects nearly every thread on this forum.



It's crazy that you believe ignoring impeachment and not doing their job would achieve anything besides demoralizing and depressing dem turn-out in 2020.

Actually crazy, and runs counter to current polls and conventional wisdom.
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Not as crazy as Dems are going to look when nothing comes from this impeachment.

Anyway, I've said my piece, we're just talking in circles now. Congratulations to the Dems I guess, I hope this was all worth it.
 
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Trump is a symptom of well known sickness in american politics. A sickness that has been weaponized since Nixon. A doubled head sword that hurt everyone even it's welder. The cure for this sickness is not pessimism but go out and protest and give a damn even if it hurts you to support the dems in this administration support them because some of them might actually give a damn about what's going on.
 
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nintendoman58 said:
How are we still doing "But polls in 2016 said..." in 2019?

Yeah Trump was unlikely to win in 2016, but he managed to barely squeak through thanks to low Dem voter turnout in three key states. His victory was within the margin of error of those polls. It doesn't make those polls wrong.
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Because thats when the last Presidential election was and polls were wrong. You brought up polls and 2018. Which have 0 change on Trump.
You think those "Dem" voters are showing up 4 years later, when they didnt show up to win the Senate? You think people magically smartened up and arent falling for fake Facebook ads and onion articles? Same dumb people voting for the same interests against themselves.

Read the thread of evidence outside your group of like minded people.

People dont care enough to educate themselves on what impeachment actually means or what Trump actually did. These people think collusion is illegal. These people think the Mueller Report exonerated Trump because Republican news is louder than the facts.

You expect them to vote for Biden, the guy tied into impeachment because Republicans made it the narrative?

Come back to reality. It aint happening if Biden is the nominee
 
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Antrax said:
Acting like corruption is just metropolitan elite liberal concern is bullshit. Actual real Americans care about this. The polling confirms it.

You sound like a Republican when arguing that real Americans don't care about this.
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Right. I work for a city right now and the amount of people who are pissed about the local corruption is high. People hate it and those person underestimating the power in it really have no fucking clue. Literally that's what trump ran on. And look at how corrupt the bastard is. This impeachment will resonate with Americans.
 

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ok this is not super relevant but the comparing politicians to star wars characters is super corny. democrats online love to reference star wars and game of thrones and it's hella lame
 

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Oh no! Democrats used their last action point in Impeachment, now they cannot use the Campaign action until the next turn in 2021. Noob move right there!

/s just in case
 
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Wrexis said:
I heard some Republicans are saying Trump should be campaigning to be the first impeached President to be re-elected.
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I have seen folks say it too. He'd be the first President to be impeached and win re-election

But...I mean...it's probably gonna happen. His supporters and the silent majority are too goddamn stupid not to vote for him. To them, the economy is doing well just enough to give him a second term. He's already called this whole thing a witch hunt and a hoax. He's made himself into the victim and the Dems as anti American, far left, socialist radicals.

Everyone's mind is pretty much made up. But don't do what myself and others did in 2016, which is to underestimate the level of poor judgement people have in this country. Be prepared for another 4 years of this orange piece of shit.

But take solace in that we have his impeachment on record and in the history books until the end of time. He'll be remembered as a corrupt charlatan, unfit for office and illegitimate in nearly every way
 
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Boy I tell you what, I quoted the first two paragraphs of the threadmark to my Republican friends and they, defenders of the constitution, stumble to reply.
 
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To an extent I can understand some of the pessimism being felt by some people, but shit, a year ago I thought it would be unlikely that impeachment charges would ever be brought against Trump for anything. We're in uncharted waters for a modern president right now and anything is possible, so right now I'm feeling a type of vigor that I haven't felt in a while. I think Trump's impeachment is gonna go a long way in curtailing the political apathy that some people have developed over the past few years.
 
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Kyra said:
This was the right political move even with him not being removed.
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Democrats had no choice. Impeach him to set the record straight that we will not tolerate abuse of power by the President, or do nothing and create a dangerous precedent stating that we don't care what the President does at all.
 
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-PXG- said:
Democrats had no choice. Impeach him to set the record straight that we will not tolerate abuse of power by the President, or do nothing and create a dangerous precedent stating that we don't care what the President does at all.
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It's really as simple as that. But some are taking nuclear level takes instead.
 
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-PXG- said:
I have seen folks say it too. He'd be the first President to be impeached and win re-election

But...I mean...it's probably gonna happen. His supporters and the silent majority are too goddamn stupid not to vote for him. To them, the economy is doing well just enough to give him a second term. He's already called this whole thing a witch hunt and a hoax. He's made himself into the victim and the Dems as anti American, far left, socialist radicals.

Everyone's mind is pretty much made up. But don't do what myself and others did in 2016, which is to underestimate the level of poor judgement people have in this country. Be prepared for another 4 years of this orange piece of shit.

But take solace in that we have his impeachment on record and in the history books until the end of time. He'll be remembered as a corrupt charlatan, unfit for office and illegitimate in nearly every way
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You cant say stuff like that! Have you read the thread? Thats concern trolling. Polls matter...until they refute my point! Educate yourself! Lmao
 
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I've had a few people ask me tonight if this means Trump is now out of office. explaining the Senate trial sucks. There is alot of people out there who really know nothing about impeachment.
 
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In 3 months the senate finds Donald J Trump not guilty. That becomes his ammunition for the election.

He wins 2020.
 
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One thing that can happen now is a lot of the things tied up in court, like whether witnesses defying subpoenas have to testify, can now be made by Chief Justice Roberts in the trial. Chuck Schumer has already indicated that Roberts will be asked to make a decision on several evidence and witnesses that is not being turned over.

so even if Trump is not removed he can still take a lot of damage via the trial.
 
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