Trunks goes saiyan route goten goes humanSo will goten and trunks get strong through sayian or human side?
Trunks goes saiyan route goten goes humanSo will goten and trunks get strong through sayian or human side?
That's how I interpreted it. Sounds like what the anime did just worded differently. Waiting for the Japanese version to compare though since it's based on a Chinese fansub.
There is a flashback to Whis talking in this very chapter like I just said there.
I'm not a fan of this.
It doesn't really make sense, he's as strong as he is exactly BECAUSE he's half Saiyan and half Human, and the reason he doesn't go Super Saiyan has nothing to do with not depending on being Saiyan, but because he has Ultimate. The reason his Ultimate form is so strong is because of his mixed genes.
It doesn't help that Gohan is smug as fuck, I preferred in the anime when he got rid of that.
Like that statement makes no sense cause its utterly pulling out a creed that gohan has never remotely indicated.
Someone hold me, my knees are buckling under this shocking factoid
The manga hate boner too strong in this thread that's such a nothing statement to get mad about it's ridiculous
Someone hold me, my knees are buckling under this shocking factoid
wait what lmaoThis manga chapter is pretty bad, at least from the pages I've read so far and the summaries I've seen. Big fight happens off-screen and somehow Roshi is fighting Jiren and not only that, but evading his moves as if he were evoking UI... Toyo, wow...
the art director for the moviewait what lmao
do i need to start reading the manga cause this sounds incredible
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(also who is shintani)
Ahh okay. Thanks!
Oh boy.On the Super manga, it's claimed that:
Goku used Blue Kaioken against Jiren. Looking at the page in question, Goku does have an aura after he explicitly went into Mastered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Can someone confirmed if this is Blue Kaioken?
2 guys from Kanzenshuu say it's real.
This chapter is just incredible.
It's likely just worded weird because of the translation from Chinese.I'm not a fan of this.
It doesn't really make sense, he's as strong as he is exactly BECAUSE he's half Saiyan and half Human, and the reason he doesn't go Super Saiyan has nothing to do with not depending on being Saiyan, but because he has Ultimate. The reason his Ultimate form is so strong is because of his mixed genes.
It doesn't help that Gohan is smug as fuck, I preferred in the anime when he got rid of that.
Yeah that's probably accurate. I hope.It's likely just worded weird because of the translation from Chinese.
This could just be interpreted the same as not relying on the Super Saiyan transformation, like the anime.
There's one/two panel where Tenshinhan and Krillin do mention it so i'm assuming it to be the case.It's really the Blue Kaioken? But I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else except Reddit by one user, who also posts on Kanzenshuu. I would think something like this would get more coverage.
Then again, UI Roshi probably sucked all the air out of the room.
Say what you want about Toyo but at least he draws Gohan well unlike everyone from the anime production
He really doesn't, especially Gohan's pants that he keeps making into MC Hammer's pants.
I hope so because the line is dumb the way it is and it sounds like a crappy translationIt's likely just worded weird because of the translation from Chinese.
This could just be interpreted the same as not relying on the Super Saiyan transformation, like the anime.
Well yeah Toyo is awful with anatomy in general. But his Gohan face and hair are mostly great, consistent, and different than Vegeta's, unlike in the anime
The faces are consistent, but not in a good way. They lack their own identity most of the time and it's not just with the Saiyans.Well yeah Toyo is awful with anatomy in general. But his Gohan face and hair are mostly great, consistent, and different than Vegeta's, unlike in the anime
The faces are consistent, but not in a good way. They lack their own identity most of the time and it's not just with the Saiyans.
It would be very easy to swap out the faces of Gohan in this chapter for example and stick them on Vegeta.
Same could be said for Whis, Vados and 18 - They all share a very similar face.
EDIT:
Regarding anatomy, don't even get me started.
There's one point in this manga chapter where Gohan straight up has the same Next as Jiren from 121:
I mean to be fair Toriyama's not exactly known for his wide diversity in faces eitherThe faces are consistent, but not in a good way. They lack their own identity most of the time and it's not just with the Saiyans.
It would be very easy to swap out the faces of Gohan in this chapter for example and stick them on Vegeta.
Same could be said for Whis, Vados and 18 - They all share a very similar face.
EDIT:
Regarding anatomy, don't even get me started.
There's one point in this manga chapter where Gohan straight up has the same Next as Jiren from 121:
I mean you're not wrong there but compared to Toyotarou's manga, the Z manga has a wide range of diversity in that aspect.I mean to be fair Toriyama's not exactly known for his wide diversity in faces either
I mean to be fair Toriyama's not exactly known for his wide diversity in faces either
Toyo using anime team ideas because his ideas sucks and are unmemorable
Never Forget:
This chapter is a deliberate fuck you to his few fans if the KK thing is true lol
I've seen it. Ten says: 界王拳と同じ原理か・・・I've seen a translation for the Kaioken bit that claims it's just Goku attempting to push more power beyond his limits, even though his body can't hold it. Then Kuririn says it's like Kaioken. Dunno if it's real either though, since I haven't seen any Japanese pages for that scene.
I've seen a translation for the Kaioken bit that claims it's just Goku attempting to push more power beyond his limits, even though his body can't hold it. Then Kuririn says it's like Kaioken. Dunno if it's real either though, since I haven't seen any Japanese pages for that scene.
It's something like "Similar principle as the Kaioken..."
"The same principle as Kaioken, huh..."