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Jones has talked about this a couple of times on Cup of Jones, and my understanding is that A) they would likely have to go through a third-party vendor that specializes in setting up sponsorships between podcasts and companies (would have to be done outside of Patreon); B) there are specific ways that companies want their ads to be read (i.e. harder to customize things since they would have to do it through the vendor); and C) there is not a good way to integrate these type of sponsorships with Patreon sponsorships (since the Podcast Halftime and Caught in a Frametrap segments already exist).
So because of all these, they aren't sure that it would be worth it at this point to try to do these (both monetarily and in terms of devaluing the Patreon sponsors). This is what I got out of what Jones said, so I hope I'm not misrepresenting anything. Instead, they're more interested in partnerships for events like E3 (e.g. this stream/segment is sponsored by so and so company, etc.).
Ya really, if someone decided not to sponsor because the read isn't good enough I'd like to see those receipts.
I am not sure if those companies are open to sponsor the way EZA does it right now, next to other sponsors (and on patreon). I am also not sure if the current sponsors are open to be in a podcast that has a big blue apron, Casper advertisements in the beginning and the end.
I don't think it will work with the current way they do sponsorships. So they will probably lose all or most of the other sponsors.
I am personally not sure they need companies like that to sponsor them and I hope they won't do it to be honest.
It will kill the "family' vibe I get when I listen to the sponsors. The current sponsors sponsor EZA because they like listening to EZA and because they are fans of EZA. Companies like those don't care about the content.
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Btw, I have to agree that I don't have a problem with the way Ben is handling the sponsors on FT. I think it's done well.
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I don't know if it would help or what makes a good advert, but I find Ben's reading to be fine, but always room to improve of course. Maybe some background music during the ads? All the podcasts I listen to (including EZA!) have background music for the ad and I have no idea why, but maybe it's effective aha.
Yeah, Linus hired someone specifically to handle these sponsor relationships on his channel and he talks about how he flips out when he improvises the read on some of the sponsors during the live show. They also want occasional breakdowns of your listenership and things, it's almost a full time postion.
Yeah, Linus hired someone specifically to handle these sponsor relationships on his channel and he talks about how he flips out when he improvises the read on some of the sponsors during the live show. They also want occasional breakdowns of your listenership and things, it's almost a full time postion.
I would love a limited run watch along series.
A movie, a particular episode of a television show, Anime films etc.
Maybe have it be patreon voted or the allies pick it themselves.
I think Bosman and Jones did that once with chat while watching a Pokemon series I believe.
I would love to watch an episode of classic simpsons for example.
A movie, a particular episode of a television show, Anime films etc.
Maybe have it be patreon voted or the allies pick it themselves.
I think Bosman and Jones did that once with chat while watching a Pokemon series I believe.
I would love to watch an episode of classic simpsons for example.
Let's be honest, Ben isn't the most natural podcast host. Helping him in terms of pre-recording the sponsor segments would go a long way I think.
In fact they are actually hiring another person recently to do that role as well. So there will be 2 full time people just working on getting sponsorships etc.
Yeah really disagree here, maybe in the first few frametraps but he is a great host now and very natural in the role.
I'll be honest, I think he's as good as Bosman. They just have different styles.
I have to disagree. I really like the way Ben hosts FT. I think he is a good host of the Q&A as well.
I remember the first time Ben was on the GT podcast (can't remember which one). I believe he was an intern and he was clearly very nervous (who can blame him).
I think all of the Allies grew a lot by being in EZA (you can see it on the groupstreams when somebody else than Jones speaks to the audience in the beginning of the stream), but even if you compare the first few Frame Traps to now, you have to agree how good Ben has become in being a host.
I really don't see what you are seeing. I think Ben is as good as Bosman or Jones in hosting/steering a podcast/stream.
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Yes last month but due to a 1000$ buggy bump that disappeared. This time its for real so i think we can expect a Top 10 :)
Ben is a fantastic host. You don't have be radio host like to be a good podcast host.
But yes, the sponsorship segment is a bit underwhelming. And the humor style (e.g. caught in a frame trap) might be too cringy for some sponsors?
But yes, the sponsorship segment is a bit underwhelming. And the humor style (e.g. caught in a frame trap) might be too cringy for some sponsors?
If you're talking about Pat Gill then it's a joke and a review for what to expect from this game.
i think there might be something to this. and an easy way to kill two birds with one stone. maybe on the day that tabletop is done, ben could take 5 minutes to record a sketch of the guys coming across a scroll or billboard or something with a list of 'patrons of a greater good'. and then you could have them react to the names in character or something. record it once a month and youre good to go. during frametrap ben could just 'cut to a message from the tabletop escape guys/bulvach/potbelly/etc'. i think the weirder, the wackier, the better. i'm waay more likely to tune in and focus if the segment is DIFFERENT than just a reading off of a list. and it could be done in a fun way for ben to record to so its not so hard.
some of the best ad reads ive heard are when bill burr just goes off script and fucks up the ads for sherrrries berrries or meundies or whatever. i think ben and the tabletop guys could totally do it. and if more people are interested in hearing the mini ad sketches, it might be more incentive for people to insert their name/brand into it.
I'll agree with the ctiticism of the reading of the sponsors on FT feeling somewhat flat but otherwise Ben's an excellent host that brings different things to the table (comparing to Kyle).
Also want to disagree with this.
I don't have a problem with the sponsor delivery either but I guess I'm not that target audience.
Ben and Kyle are easily my favourite podcast hosts, and I'm a fan of Kinda Funny too. Ben asks the most thoughtful and well-considered questions of his panelist's whether he is familiar with the game or not.
I don't think the Frame Trap sponsor thing is to do with Ben's reads as much as it is to do with just general views/exposure and the fact the length of the show is so wildly variable so ad placement is a bit harder to predict.
Ben could improve at it and you should always try to improve anyway, but he's alright as it is for me, and in the end I'd probably skip the best ad read ever regardless
Ben could improve at it and you should always try to improve anyway, but he's alright as it is for me, and in the end I'd probably skip the best ad read ever regardless
Ben is an excellent ghost who really excels at drawing opinions out of people and getting them to talk for quite a long while.
I was watching it like a hawk, and I never saw it cross the $47K mark even in those few hours when that bug appeared. Highest I saw it get to was around $46.7K. As far as tracking records go, I prefer using the graphtreon daily graph. Always updates just after 9:00 PM Pacific so it's a consistent snapshot. So as far as I'm concerned, we've been in record territory for funding since May 12 and record patrons since April 22nd.
I would conclude that $250 is easier to spend for "non-businesses" than $500 is?
I honestly don't know what we can conclude from that.
Except if you mean the fact that FT has quite a lot of sponsors, for which I would conclude that people are happy with the way it is presented.
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Ben is an excellent host imo. He's very good at steering a conversation and making things interesting.
On the topic of frametrap viewcount. I have to imagine that a lot of its views are from people who watch the podcast in segments because of how long it is. It's very rare for me to turn on framegraph and make it through the whole thing in one sitting. With that being said, I still think frametrap pulls incredible numbers.
On the topic of frametrap viewcount. I have to imagine that a lot of its views are from people who watch the podcast in segments because of how long it is. It's very rare for me to turn on framegraph and make it through the whole thing in one sitting. With that being said, I still think frametrap pulls incredible numbers.
Ben is a great host! I also think his style would lend itself well to one-on-one interviews, hopefully when the studio comes we'll get video's of Ben interviewing some devs, kinda like GameInformer does. (I really like GameInformer)
I've never had an issue with Ben's hosting, in fact, I really enjoy his take on being a host. As for the sponsor readings, I can't say it has ever crossed my mind that it is "boring".
Nice to see Talking Syndrome back with a spicy topic. Might actually pop in for that.
Ben is a great podcast host not only for what he brings to the table in terms of knowledge and well-considered opinions, but also his excellent discussion-management skills. Frame Trap is a 2-3hr + plus podcast that barely has an ounce of fat on it - a lot of that is down to Ben's hosting, in my opinion.
Ben is a great podcast host not only for what he brings to the table in terms of knowledge and well-considered opinions, but also his excellent discussion-management skills. Frame Trap is a 2-3hr + plus podcast that barely has an ounce of fat on it - a lot of that is down to Ben's hosting, in my opinion.
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I rarely watch Huber Syndrome but the topic this week is pretty pertinent to what I've been thinking about so I'll be dropping in as well for Talking Syndrome.
Just to add to the voices of acclaim for Ben as a host. He is exceptional at extracting deeper insights into the games people are playing, beyond the normal it's fun, or the obvious observations. These make conversations so deep and interesting and also make you understand the people playing the games and how that affects their perception. It's a completely different vibe from the Easy Allies Podcast, and I hope it stays just as it is.
As for the advert section, I think sometimes it gets confusing because the frametrap game itself can be confusing - it's perhaps the only part I can imagine being tweaked, and the one I tend to care about the least.
As for the advert section, I think sometimes it gets confusing because the frametrap game itself can be confusing - it's perhaps the only part I can imagine being tweaked, and the one I tend to care about the least.
Has the next spoiler mode been chosen? Detroit has to be somewhat high on the list of options if not. Would be great if they could get a guest into the updated garage, too.
With Best Buy's GCU ending soon and Amazon being spotty as fuck when it comes to what gets the 20% discount and what doesn't, I might just switch to all digital. Not only that, being robbed on Christmas this last year kind of made me realize how convenient digital was for lost/stolen games. I can't finish the sidequests in AC: Origins or any of South Park: The Fractured, but Whole because of that thieving fuck, but everything I owned digitally was right there for me to download as soon I bought my new console.
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Hey blood, possible to put talking syndrome on the plays channel? I get that I can't read the chat. I'm fine with it.
Hey blood, possible to put talking syndrome on the plays channel? I get that I can't read the chat. I'm fine with it.
I'll be honest then. Ben is a fantastic podcast host who adapted to the job abnormally quick. I really only had a problem with the sponsor reading.
Also this reminds me, anyone else kinda dislike how in conversation we say stuff like "to be honest" or "honestly" and the like? It's like, wait were you lying to me before that then lol. It just seems like a way to be like "hey you may disagree but..." and when you think about that for a second, you realize that it's pretty much worthless because no one will agree with everything one says anyway.
NANI?!?!
Unfortunately as much as it seemed like a joke, it is definitely in the game. He tweeted that out after retweeting an article from GamesRadar about the secret ending. It's an absolutely hilarious thing that almost seems too much like Cage parodying himself but it's real, and as much as it seems like it's inconsequential to the actual main story, I'm sure there are others who would rather not have that spoiled.
Usually what happens on twitter happens and I can't get mad because I could mute stuff but this happened before anyone could even have a chance to play it themselves, on embargo day, where the last thing being published should be ending spoilers lol. But I know people are eager to poo poo on Cage and QD so any etiquette goes out the window for situations like that.
Thinking Ben isn't the "most natural podcast host", wowie. He comes off great as a host, just as much as he does when he's a guest on the main podcast (which is amazingly).
Nice!
Nice!
Is this Todoroki avatar week?
Ben hosting is fantastic and is particularly suited towards the purpose of the Frame Trap podcast. Heck, even his hosting of the panel at the NISA presser last year was slick. His tone is more conversational than Jones which means the sponsorship reading comes across differently, but I would hesitate to compare them too closely when you have someone who has a voice for VO, who has practiced VO for many years.
Ben hosting is fantastic and is particularly suited towards the purpose of the Frame Trap podcast. Heck, even his hosting of the panel at the NISA presser last year was slick. His tone is more conversational than Jones which means the sponsorship reading comes across differently, but I would hesitate to compare them too closely when you have someone who has a voice for VO, who has practiced VO for many years.
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