Yep. Going on three weeks now with no real communication. Something must be seriously borked.
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes |OT| In loving memory of Yoshitaka Murayama
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Yep. Going on three weeks now with no real communication. Something must be seriously borked.
Switch version has crashes on top of running poorly (framerate, loadings, etc).
Xbox version runs at 4K but some areas don't hold 60fps very well and make it run very hot to the point it may overheat your console (forced shutdown with error message) depending on your setup.
PS5 version runs at 1080p since one of the first patches (and has some weird loading times glitches in the main castle it seems).
Pick your poison I guess.
The article has a typo with the exact sales numbers.
"It's estimated by GameDiscoverCo that over 60,0000 copies of Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes have been purchased or redeemed on Steam, which would include both backers and purchasers."
Is it 60k or 600k, because that is quite a substantial difference. lol
Leaning towards 600k since they are saying it's selling well. They just misplaced the comma, I think.
"It's estimated by GameDiscoverCo that over 60,0000 copies of Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes have been purchased or redeemed on Steam, which would include both backers and purchasers."
Is it 60k or 600k, because that is quite a substantial difference. lol
Leaning towards 600k since they are saying it's selling well. They just misplaced the comma, I think.
I wonder if the PS5 version would be running into the same problem as the X Series versions where if it was 4K it would have a chance of overheating. And the devs did not want to risk complaints from the PS community because they expected it to be a larger player base on that console. This is pure speculation which to me would be strange that they would not also force the Xbox version to be at 1080p to avoid hurting people's consoles.
There's no way the game sold 600k on Steam. It's at ~1500 reviews, which would put it closer to 60k with the most common estimates at 30-40x the review count.
It's possible they encountered different issues on both consoles, like performance related issues and whatnot. Xbox overheating is uncommon AFAICT (I mean with regard to that game). Never heard about PS5 overheating (with that game anyway).
Can't believe I'm able to play a new Suikoden (in everything but name) in 2024, I never thought I would see the day. That's incredible.
However, I am sad that it turned out to be a bad Suikoden game for me. Eiyuden is a huge bummer - almost every aspect of it is either uninteresting, poorly thought out, half-baked or downright broken. It's more like a Suikoden Checklist than an actual cohesive thing. It being such a blatant copy of the older Suikoden games shines an unfavorable light on this one.
It is my biggest disappointment of the year so far, and I'm struggling to even find the motivation to finish it.
Weirdly enough, everything I was greatly excited for this year ended up disappointing me - Eiyuden, Dragon's Dogma and, to a lesser extent, FF7. The only thing left is the Suikoden remaster (which I'm starting to think might have been silently cancelled or something), hopefully they don't ruin that too much. Suikoden II is one of my favorite games of all time and I would love to replay it with some of its more egregious faults fixed.
Also, there has to be a better way to handle Kickstarter backers than putting their stuff in the game. That's awful.
However, I am sad that it turned out to be a bad Suikoden game for me. Eiyuden is a huge bummer - almost every aspect of it is either uninteresting, poorly thought out, half-baked or downright broken. It's more like a Suikoden Checklist than an actual cohesive thing. It being such a blatant copy of the older Suikoden games shines an unfavorable light on this one.
It is my biggest disappointment of the year so far, and I'm struggling to even find the motivation to finish it.
Weirdly enough, everything I was greatly excited for this year ended up disappointing me - Eiyuden, Dragon's Dogma and, to a lesser extent, FF7. The only thing left is the Suikoden remaster (which I'm starting to think might have been silently cancelled or something), hopefully they don't ruin that too much. Suikoden II is one of my favorite games of all time and I would love to replay it with some of its more egregious faults fixed.
Also, there has to be a better way to handle Kickstarter backers than putting their stuff in the game. That's awful.
Yeah, and there's nothing positive about the article. The only reason such sales would be positive for 505 is that they funded way less than the typical of quality AA JRPG. I would estimate easily less than $10m given the small team, including marketing. It also couldn't be more obvious why they force this game to be out by late April, which is to help them lay out something positive for the current fiscal year while damaging the reputation of the IP as a result (not that they care since they don't own it).
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For the sequel, they should go with something iterative and reuse as much code and assets as possible, which means they should still stick with 505 Games. After that though, if they are still at it, stay far away from 505. And it's not that 505 Games people are bad, but it's their parent company Digital Bros. Too bad their position looked very healthy back in 2020, which was probably why Rabbit&Bear fell for it.
Not sure if this is the thread for it, but I have a question about the kickstarter physical copy. Realized that I never received a copy of the game and checked the yetee portal to see what was up and it's asking me to pay for shipping. Anyone know who to contact to get that waived? I backed for 6000 yen and global shipping was included but I'm being asked to pay $20 for shipping.
Shipping costs were specifically not included during the campaign, both because they didn't know them at the time and because it would have been extremely hard to decide during the height of covid.
There were 46k backers total, I'd guess maybe half of those at most went with Steam copies.
Classic RPG:s don't sell that well to begin with. This is not Persona or even Octopath Traveller. A lot of series are very happy with 100k sales overall. It all depends on budget and expectations. Suikoden V sold 200k in Japan, although there's no telling what the budget was for a late PS2 3D game compared to a modern 2D game.
It just doesn't make sense for global Steam sales to be around ~40k (discounting backers) if physical sales in Japan alone were over 70k.
Here's a screenshot from the patched version on PS5 for those wondering about resolution:
EDIT: Also got my physical Switch backer copy yesterday:
EDIT 2: Reuploaded the screenshot by transferring it to a USB stick, rather than downloading through the PS App. There's still a lot of JPEG compression, though, and it looks sharper on my TV. It's a 4K image, so whatever's happening under the hood, the PS5 is outputting a 4K image, rather than the TV upscaling a raw 1080p signal.
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People have mentioned how the numbers do make sense.
Yes, Japan sales are significant, I have mentioned before as early as April 13 that it will be the biggest market and there's a reason why I panic over the Switch version and its marketing:
Suikoden creators announce Kickstarter "Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes" for PC, PS, Xbox, & Switch [UP: Funded] News
Usually such bugs only affect very specific scenarios. Reviewers could very well be playing with older builds, but it's common that there's a 'review guide' that advise reviewers to avoid doing something very specific as there's a critical bug which is scheduled to be fixed before launch, and as...
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Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes |OT| In loving memory of Yoshitaka Murayama OT
As I feared earlier, Eiyuden is getting review bombed in Japan for Switch performance, and momentum dropped sharply as of April 26. Due to initial hype, it will still do very well for 1st week sales in Japan, but after that, especially after Golden Week on Week 3, sales will rapidly drop to next...
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Here's a screenshot from the patched version on PS5 for those wondering about resolution:
EDIT: Also got my physical Switch backer copy yesterday:
EDIT 2: Reuploaded the screenshot by transferring it to a USB stick, rather than downloading through the PS App. There's still a lot of JPEG compression, though, and it looks sharper on my TV. It's a 4K image, so whatever's happening under the hood, the PS5 is outputting a 4K image, rather than the TV upscaling a raw 1080p signal.
For the Switch release, which version of the game is on the cartridge?
I'm not following how your posts explain how such low global Steam sales would make sense.People have mentioned how the numbers do make sense.
Yes, Japan sales are significant, I have mentioned before as early as April 13 that it will be the biggest market and there's a reason why I panic over the Switch version and its marketing:
Suikoden creators announce Kickstarter "Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes" for PC, PS, Xbox, & Switch [UP: Funded] News
Usually such bugs only affect very specific scenarios. Reviewers could very well be playing with older builds, but it's common that there's a 'review guide' that advise reviewers to avoid doing something very specific as there's a critical bug which is scheduled to be fixed before launch, and as...Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes |OT| In loving memory of Yoshitaka Murayama OT
As I feared earlier, Eiyuden is getting review bombed in Japan for Switch performance, and momentum dropped sharply as of April 26. Due to initial hype, it will still do very well for 1st week sales in Japan, but after that, especially after Golden Week on Week 3, sales will rapidly drop to next...
Here's a screenshot from the patched version on PS5 for those wondering about resolution:
EDIT: Also got my physical Switch backer copy yesterday:
EDIT 2: Reuploaded the screenshot by transferring it to a USB stick, rather than downloading through the PS App. There's still a lot of JPEG compression, though, and it looks sharper on my TV. It's a 4K image, so whatever's happening under the hood, the PS5 is outputting a 4K image, rather than the TV upscaling a raw 1080p signal.
So PS5 version good now? D:
You used Japan as an example, but it was already known Japan is the biggest market for this game and Steam is the weakest market there.
So what you have said "if physical sales in Japan alone were over 70k." have zero bearing on how this mean Steam sales is not weak.
For Steam, all the numbers you need are here: https://steamdb.info/app/1658280/charts/
People who observe charts often will easily identify that there's nothing big going on here (definitely not 100k level). It's up to you whether you want to be convinced.
We'll get Sangral to weigh in.
EDIT: Here's a Drive folder with three off-screen photos of the patched version: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CRoPh9MNyeJH6yfgRdTrFy-ues_rf_e2?usp=share_link
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WHAT :D I thought launch version was 1.0.3?
I'm really considering if there's a point in getting this in physical version for switch at all :/
Considering it's performance issues, I'm basically considering my Switch copy a novelty.
Updating the 'peak concurrent player' comparison graph. You can add games of your choice to the comparison here (SteamDB):
Signing up for a free account at VGInsights gives you slightly more detail than you get without an account, but most of it is available without an account. Graph of estimated revenue for Eiyuden, on Steam: https://vginsights.com/game/1658280
This is what I've found online for that patch notes 1.06:
- Story progression bug that occurs when the home town is level 2 or higher
- "Cooking competition" scoring bug
- Equipment UI bug
- Bug that causes the player character to become uncontrollable when falling from the giant gear in Burganthia Castle when playing as Melisa
- Bug that allows players to go to Nordstar regardless of the progress of the scenario in a loop play
- Minor translation fixes
- (PS5 only) A bug that displays the resolution at 1080p even when it is set to 2160p
- (PC, PS5 only) Fixed the 2D code for downloading season pass bonuses
Yep. It is officially fixed and now also in glorious 4K like on Xbox or PC.
We did it!!!
(Unfortunately the floor textures are still messed up and a blurry mess, but that's on all platforms, what are they doing? They had high res textures in the beta and on 1.0 on all platforms and are messed up since the first patch 😂)
Awesome!
Not awesome! But at least there's been improvements so far 😅
World map chugs now, below 30fps. Only tested out the very beginning of the game.
To clarify only sections of the world map, like when youre getting closer to that forest dungeon area, and outside the fortress.
Yes! I just finished Unicorn Overlord 100% yesterday and was ready to start Eiyuden, but was undecided because of the resolution bug. Now I'm all in. It's time to get my 5th JRPG platinum this year. What a beautiful day!
Wow that much? It's not that bad on XSX. Like it's around the 45~55 range I'd say in the first two or three overworlds (curiously enough later overworlds run flawlessly AFAICT).
The design choices for duels are.... somewhat confusing to me. The first two are not intended to be won, which isn't a great way to prepare players for when they actually have to win one (although maybe I'm making a mistake by assuming there will be duels I'll have to actually win), and the actual mechanics themselves feel worse than those from a game that came out nearly 30 years ago, made by the same people. Edit: There's a character who you have to fight 1 on 1 to recruit. This was, for some reason, not a duel.
War battles don't feel great either, they seem largely scripted so far (which is fine, most of Suikoden 2's were), but something about the set up makes it feel like I should have more control over the preparations than what they give you. They sure could use a fast forward button though!
War battles don't feel great either, they seem largely scripted so far (which is fine, most of Suikoden 2's were), but something about the set up makes it feel like I should have more control over the preparations than what they give you. They sure could use a fast forward button though!
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The first (or second?) real duel is bonkers hard. Even with a properly leveled character you can't win unless you choose perfect answers. And you'll need to load a previous save if the character isn't leveled (to, well, grind leveling in a limited area where you're stuck, or go back to an even earlier save).
The joys of old-school game design. I should rant about it but that's kinda the point of this game methinks. To go all-in with the callbacks of old « bad » game design practices lol
And later battles allow you to compose your armies a bit (some units are locked but others you can setup squads and leaders, and some leaders seem to be busted obviously).
Edit: It felt like old times when at one point due to optimization and recruitment I was running over the enemies (which were supposed to be super strong) and then « oh no they're too strong we need to flee! » after the first contact where you slaughtered them lol
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Before I update my PS5 version is it true that the game runs poorly in 4k? I turned off auto updates just in case since I heard the XSX version in 4k caused the fan to run hard and system to run hot.
Sounds like some parts of the over world drops below 60 but I haven't heard the fans sound any different.
Lots of people on Reddit are talking about the game crashing, FPS drops, and other performance issues.
I'll probably just wait it out a bit.
I wish there was a "Fight Cautiously without using MP or Items" party strategy.
I can't get Nowa to stop using his Searing Blast Wave, while at the same time actually get Reyna to use here Cover Row & Counter.
It's annoying! Haha.
I can't get Nowa to stop using his Searing Blast Wave, while at the same time actually get Reyna to use here Cover Row & Counter.
It's annoying! Haha.