There is tremendous value to getting access to iOS users. If there wasn't there wouldn't be a battle over it.
The only thing either party is concerned about is the consumer's wallet and getting a bigger share of it.
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Epic Games Vs. Apple court case has begun
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There is tremendous value to getting access to iOS users. If there wasn't there wouldn't be a battle over it.
The only thing either party is concerned about is the consumer's wallet and getting a bigger share of it.
Yes but even if you get access to them it is not that easy to reach them. Apple's ecosystem already works for most users as it is.
We are just talking around in circles. Epic is spending tens of millions of dollars (soon to be hundreds of millions) on Cravath and experts to try this case. They don't give a shit about most users. They care about their bottom line and their business objectives. The consumer is just a stick to be used by either side to make a more persuasive argument.
Yep, saw this email from the evidence link yesterday which pretty much points this out that the main thing involved with this lawsuit is to make money, anything else is secondary.
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I mean, yeah, I'd imagine Sony would be pissed that the agreement for cross platform multiplayer got released entirely unredacted.
thank you. And yeah I can understand what's being talked about lol.
I'm not arguing against that. I just don't see that it will be that easy as many here think for Epic to launch EGS as a third party store on iOS and actually be successful, if that's really their goal.
I said this in the Sony thread. You can't make a deal and bow to one of the companies and sue the other one for being less strict. This whole case will either be thrown out or Sony will go down with it as well.
This is going to sound silly, but this whole trial has felt like a mini E3 to me. Obviously no nee games are being announced or deals being made, but just having a day of constantly breaking news, new relegation, and hottest of takes. Despite never having owned an Apple product and avoiding using EGS this whole thing has been riveting and fun to watch.
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I am not sure how the legal system works in US, but in other countries this would be like saying, "hey you accepted with a third party something that you are not accepting with me, therefore your right to sue me is over".
So I don´t think this would necessarily mean to throw Epic´s case, if anything it would be more of an accessory argument to make a stronger case for the main argument.
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I'm going out on limb here and say that Apple is going to make sure that if their closed garden goes down, they're taking the consoles' closed gardens with them.
Honestly, how does Sweeney argue against this? Seems like a double standard to allow Sony what they want but turn around and sue Apple...
Epic signs a deal Sony.
Sony invests in Epic.
Epic goes to court against Apple while trying to separate consoles from this case.
But fails, like people have said, they should have taken Sony to court if they were actually trying to do something to help the "little guys"
Sony invests in Epic.
Epic goes to court against Apple while trying to separate consoles from this case.
But fails, like people have said, they should have taken Sony to court if they were actually trying to do something to help the "little guys"
they have no other choice. The judge said she was wary of this outcome back during preliminary hearings last year. This evidence just confirms where things were headed, the writing was on the wall but shit looks much worse. These platform holders are likely doing things like this to everyone on much larger scales in some aspects.
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yeah they're trying to go all in on the Tim sweeny is fucking crazy angle, and is changing his mind every five minutes even after signing multimillion dollar contracts, and stating commitments publicly.
Is this the part where Apple starts citing Tim Sweeny's tweets?
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Metal is the only choice you have on iOS, though. You couldn't use OpenGL or Vulkan or anything else even if you wanted to.
Lol probs not. The internal docs that have been leaked are far more damaging because it presents a paper trail of hypocrisy regarding epic through the actions of Tim.
That's a good point. Hopefully Tim's counsel brings this up specifically.