Man, Retro could have been on the level of Naughty Dog if they were given better, fresher, more interesting projects. Shame.
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Eurogamer: Leaks suggest Retro Studios making Star Fox racing spin-off (also heard by EG's sources)
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I mean their pedigree is pretty stellar so far.
One of the most highly acclaimed trilogies ever and two top tier platform era. Shame that they aren't making a new IP but they probably chose this. They did chose to make Tropical Freeze after all.
Always a new asspull to dismiss a game.
Do real gamers TM even like games?
Yeah, the extreme hate for Nintendo started with the Gamecube. The console itself, kiddie games like Toon Link, Pikmin and Luigis Mansion... it broke people.
The hate never stopped ever since.
But you would think atleast some people would grow up.
Guess not.
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I shouldn't give in to console warrior bullshit
We have no reason to believe they haven't chosen this project themselves. After Metroid Prime they've picked basically every game they wanted to work on. Including fucking Donkey Kong, yes.
Well, obviously it's a clone of Uncharted!
It would be a hoot if it turns out the folks at Retro are fans of old-school arcade racers.
Considering the fans can't agree on what they want StarFox to be...
Uhhh no, thanks? I'd much rather have the starfox racing game than another naughty-dog like game....
Retro chooses what they work on, you're making a fool of yourself.
Too late for that I think. Everyone is doing a lot of assuming here.
And yet, we still get plenty of new IP every generation. Weird, huh?? Guess your worries are unfounded.
And don't give me that "They're not that different" bullshit. Again, this is something people like you try to argue all the time and it just doesn't hold up under scrutiny. If they weren't that different, they wouldn't be as long lasting and successful. If they weren't that different, you wouldn't have fans constantly talking about how they love one game in the series and absolutely hate another. If you feel that Galaxy2>3DWorld>Odyssey is no different from Uncharted1>2>3 then there's not much else to say than you're wrong. No creativity? No aesthetics and variety in world building? There's plenty of that even in just one franchise. How many other developers would be brave enough or creative enough to follow up the most critically acclaimed game ever at that point with Majora's Mask? And then follow that up with Wind Waker? Come on, your arguments are nonsense. Instead of worrying about what Miyamoto says in interviews how about you actually just look at their output and see what's happening and what we're getting. Making a new star fox game in a new genre isn't preventing them from making new ip. It's not preventing them from experimenting with aesthetics. It's not preventing variety in world building. It just literally is not.
Not ND like games, just interesting an exciting new IP's and franchises.
Could they salvage something of Zero by remastering it for Switch with two modes?
A standard mode, and one where the ship moves on a predetermined path and you just use the tablet to look around.
Would free up space for a graphical boost, but would still be weak sauce without a major rework I suppose.
A standard mode, and one where the ship moves on a predetermined path and you just use the tablet to look around.
Would free up space for a graphical boost, but would still be weak sauce without a major rework I suppose.
Man, Era could have been a really cool board if it was given better, fresher, more interesting posts that don't make up a bullshit narrative. Shame.
It's almost like Retro can choose which IP they work on, just like they did with DK. But that doesn't fit the narrative of poor misshandled Retro by the hands of the boogeyman Nintendo which is only a thing because you don't like what Retro is working on and in fact wants to work on.
Yeah, if only. If only they could've worked on a drab, post-apocalyptic third-person shooter with stealth mechanics. You know, interesting and fresh ideas.
That's a cheap shot; at least go with the Jaguar version of Checkered Flag for a sporting chance.
Yeah right they love BBQ they should be making Grills. Ice cream maker would be such a waste of their talent ;)
You have not the slightest idea if this will be a kart racer. None. There is not a single hint to that. Seriously, stop jumping to conclusions and then forming your entire opinion of a game on it you haven't even seen a single second of footage of. It makes no goddamn sense.
They just did 2 years ago, it was Star Fox Zero and it sold literally 60,000 copies. It was highly lauded for it's terrible control mechanics which I can attest I was practically fighting against the whole time I played it.
Or not. I didn't know Sonic Racing flew throughout space and had a hub with boss fighting.
Or Crash Bandicoot?
Oh right, noone would want that.
Why again are we doing this console warrior bullshit?
Where are you getting this stuff? They said they wanted to make DKCR, but that was a different project. Where I'm getting my stuff: no functional adult would think that making a Star Fox racing game is the best possible use of anyone's time. If the other game doesn't happen, it's four years and ~130 paid staff for a Star Fox racing game.
Retro working on Metroid?
I thought they didnt want to work with that IP anymore
"On the level?"
I'm sure many, myself included, find Retro's games better than ND's.
Tropical Freeze is better than all the Uncharteds at least
Except it might be something THEY wanted to work on, which has been the case for pretty much all of their games, so, if it turns out good, which is fairly likely, it would be a good use of their time
They don't want to work on Metroid. They wanted to work on DK. And now it seems like they wanted to work on this. I know it's hard to accept for some folks here that they aren't forced by NIntendo to work on cetrain franchises to push their bullshit narrative of Nintendo harming Retro, but that's the reality.
They worked on one of the most critically acclaimed trilogies in gaming and then said they want to make fucking Donkey Kong instead and Nintendo said OK.
I'm certain as hell nobody back then outside the companies thought Donkey Kong is a good use of their time and talent, not even when the second game came around and the first was prooven to be a good game. And that took 4 years as well.
Your "stuff" is just not liking Retro working on this game and coming up with bullshit reasons as to why they are working on it.
Edit: LOL missed the "no functional adult" bit. You can't be serious.
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I mean yeh its probably going to be even better, but transformations are a signature thing for star fox which is awesome btw. I meant it as a good thing really
We have nothing to suggest that Retro didn't pick this project. We do have rumors that Retro was working on a new IP that turned into a hot mess and may have been cancelled as a result. I'm honestly not sure where this mindset that Retro are god-tier developers being forced to work below their talent level comes from.
They made three of them, nothing like locking a developer you supposedly love behind a single IP for eternity, you're getting your damn Prime 4 let them do whatever they want.
Boy, this thread is a carnival of shit opinions
Do you even give a shit?
You know how Prime 4 is already being developed?
Do you even give a shit?
Well, Nintendo's making that internally so you're in luck.
What to you would be the "interesting projects"?
I've been looking for what exactly such projects are in this thread and the best I can surmise is Naughty Dog games and projects in tone with the mature Gamecube games.
You could say the same about BR games/modes right now; "who would want to play a shooter against 99 other players in a huge shrinking arena". Nobody knows what games will be really successful when they are different from the norm. if Nintendo has an awesome trailer at e3, a coming soon launch window, and has a big multiplayer component it could be a big deal.
Imagine if this has an online dog fight mod sort of like BR, not 100 arwings probably maybe more like 25. That could be tons of fun.
Probably not, leaks suggest Bandai Namco is developing it. Maybe with Nintendo, but they're likely doing the bulk of development.
They co-developed MK 7. They had no involvement with MK 8.
Metroid games are already still being developed. Two of them recently, in fact, by two different teams.
How much Metroid are we really needing?
I meant popularity and pedigree, wasn't interested in comparing who's games were better.
I've been thinking about Gamecube a lot lately, especially after the Pokémon leak today.
Everyone always looks back at that era fondly because it was seemingly the last time Nintendo would do some wild stuff with their new IP without falling into complacency. Metroid as a first-person shooter. A game with Luigi as a protagonist, fighting ghosts with a vacuum cleaner. A Mario game where he runs around on the beach with a super soaker. A Zelda game with a cartoon aesthetic that draws a lot of from classic anime. An F-Zero developed by Sega. A Paper Mario game that had was almost like an anarchic parody of the series itself. A Kirby racing game with controls so simple you can play it with one hand.
Pre-release reception on most of these titles varied, but for the most of the part a good deal of them were levied with heavy skepticism, and at least the first half of those titles were outright negatively received before release. And yet, they're commonly remembered as some of the console's standout titles, having gone down as some of the most fan favorite titles, and one of the last major instances when Nintendo took bold risks with their IP. Ever since then, Nintendo had mostly been complacent with a lot of their properties, not really going out on a dare like they used to. With the exception of Galaxy, a lot of what they did ran into a feeling of being complacent iterations and takes with their IP, sans a few rare exceptions.
But in closing out the Wii U and going into Switch things have gotten really weird. We got Splatoon; a brand new triple A Nintendo IP that has instantly become a Nintendo classic. Mario was allowed to platform across worlds based upon realistic elements in Odyssey. Zelda went open world and eschewed a bunch of series' traditions. Mario was even allowed to team up with the Rabbids, and it was somehow a great game. And now Star Fox is getting turned into a racing game, and Pokémon is looking to get a reimagining that's likely going to discombobulate a whole lot of series' traditions.
What I'm getting at here is for as much as people have been yearning for the Gamecube days when Nintendo made some pretty wild and impressionable things, people seem to have forgotten how much of those ideas were often met with reservation and outright confusion at first. Because that's exactly what's happening now, on the Switch. It's the closest Nintendo has gotten to making games that fit into that "Gamecube mold" in a long, long time.
You should maybe wait until you are a fully functioning adult before assuming stuff.
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