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donny2112

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ITT, predict for the NPD February 2021 retail period (January 31-February 27, 2021) for U.S. hardware sales.

What is NPD?: NPD is one of the main retail tracking firms in the U.S., and also about the only one who specifically goes into detail on video games sales. This thread is to predict what the NPD hardware sales will be for the most recent month. NPD months are defined by the National Retail Federation (find calendar links here).
What do I win?: Bragging rights. We also keep track of predictions over the year and have an annual contest using "points." Still just bragging rights, but SalesEra followers have fun seeing how well we can do with it. See here for details on the point calculations.
Why are there still predictions when official NPD numbers are not released?
Trust me said:
To have fun? To share thoughts and speculation with a like mined group of people? To be able to communicate directly with individuals who study this industry for a living?
ethomaz said:
Since 2010 I guess we don't get official numbers anymore... that doesn't mean we don't get the numbers.

The ranking and results are based in real numbers.

Prediction entries must be in and finalized by 8 p.m. EST on Tuesday, March 9th. Format use is required if you want your entry counted.

NPD Coverage: January 31-February 27, 2021 (4 weeks, January was 4 weeks)
NPD Results Release: Thursday, March 11 18 @ 4 p.m. EST (PR+thread posted Friday morning)

Format:

[NSW]
[PS5]
[XBS]

Note: Combined totals for multi-SKUs. e.g. PS5 physical and digital edition total go under PS5. Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S total goes under XBS.

Good/Bad Formatting
Code:
Good              Bad
[XBS] 200K       [XBS] 200 thousand
[XBS] 200,000    [XBS] 200.000
[XBS] 200000     [XBS] - 200000


Potential hardware impacting events in February:
PS5 and XBS shortages
Tax return refunds
(Filing delayed by ~2 weeks this year to Feb. 12)

Prediction Format: (repeating to emphasize to use this format)

[NSW]
[PS5]
[XBS]

Note: Combined totals for multi-SKUs. e.g. PS5 physical and digital edition total go under PS5. Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S total goes under XBS.

January's #1 Predictor (results not public)
[NSW] 400K
[XBS] 150K
[PS5] 225K

January 2020 NPD thread
February 2020 NPD thread

NPD Prediction Thread Archive
 
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m051293

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Oct 29, 2017
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Judging by UK numbers, supply for both PS5 and NSW skyrocketed in February. US could be similar? I glanced at keepa for the NSW and it looked like supply was at its weakest in week 4 and week 5 and then recovered for the rest of Feb.
 

Xevross

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Oct 28, 2017
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By the way for those who missed it, Jan numbers are:

381k < Switch < 389k
260k < PS5 < 267k
XBS < 158k

With my estimates of:

Switch ~385k
PS5 ~265k
XBS ~130k

(There is a bit of extra good maths behind the XBS 130k, I think it's the most accurate rough number I can give).
 

Peek-a-boo!

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[NSW] 500K
[PS5] 325K
[XBS] 250K

I may well be a little bit generous on the Xbox Series S/X front, but they've got to be pretty close to PlayStation in their #1 biggest market.
 

Ryng™

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Switch increase from January to February
2018 = +4% (5 Weeks VS 4 weeks, weekly avg +31%)
2019 = +29%
2020 = +30%

Switch increase from January to February has been consistent in the +30% range, this time it'll be harder to predict though because Nintendo will sell whatever it ships.

[NSW] 571k
[PS5] 344k
[XB1] 203k
 
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Welfare

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I can confirm at least one Series X was sold this month.

It's funny in a way, because I picked up a Xbox One back when ~1.8M were sold (late December 2013), and I probably got the Series X when XBS is at ~1.8M.
 

Xevross

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So now we know stock for the consoles in Feb vs Jan for some other countries.

PS5 & Switch way up in the UK, hard to give a solid number for sure but I'm estimating almost double for PS5 and close to that for Switch. XBS seems to be a fair bit down in the UK in Feb, but its Jan was remarkably high so that's not too bad.

In Japan PS5 sold 95k vs 61k in Jan. XBS sold basically nothing vs basically nothing in Japan (2k ish vs 2k ish if you must know). Switch sold 563k in Jan but only 350k in Feb. However Japan usually gets priority in January as sales stay high from the holidays for the first half of the month.

Spain we have PS5 at 12k in just the first two weeks vs 9k for all of Jan. XBS at 1.5k after 2 weeks vs 2.6k for all of Jan. Switch 11k in two weeks vs 33k in all of Jan (Switch 1st week was huge due to Spain first week holiday).

So conclusions are PS5 is looking consistently way up elsewhere. It could be that the US got priority in Jan and now the rest of the world gets priority in Feb, or it could be a trend we see here. XBS its hard to tell, I think UK just weirdly got a lot in Jan and the US should be more favoured in Feb (no way its down from ~130k right?). Switch could be anything really.
 

m051293

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With the Switch revision talk getting traction, what's the thought on impact to sales for later this year and even 2022? I presume many folks accounted for this to some extent in their full year predictions?
 

Welfare

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With the Switch revision talk getting traction, what's the thought on impact to sales for later this year and even 2022? I presume many folks accounted for this to some extent in their full year predictions?
I think it keeps the demand for Switch high for the next year, but probably won't cause 2022 sales to go from, for example 25M to 30M.

I'm predicting it replaces the current hybrid completely at $299 while that SKU goes to $249 for clearance. Then the second half of Switch's life is selling the Pro to those who already bought a $299 Switch and still have a product for new owners who would've bought the current Switch anyway.

The sales decline shouldn't be drastic, but it won't cause demand to spike either. Current momentum being maintained for another year would be the best and most likely outcome coming out of COVID.
 

Welfare

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Hello! This wall of numbers will be comparing the weekly average of January and February. Normally this is a simple month to month comparison as both January and February have 4 weeks, except every five to six years January becomes a 5 week month. I have gathered high selling software and any hardware deals for February to help show how the month might be impacted. You can go to previous prediction threads for the previous month's potential impacts.

Code:
2014

Xbox One January: 143K / 4 = 35,750
Xbox One February: 258K / 4 = 64,500

Weekly average +80%

PS4 January: 271K / 4 = 67,750
PS4 February: 269K / 4 = 67,250

Weekly average -1%

Notable Events in February

Xbox One
Tax Returns

The LEGO Movie Videogame [4 weeks]
Thief [1 week]
Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare [1 week]

PS4
Tax Returns / Supply constrained: Demand > Supply

The LEGO Movie Videogame [4 weeks]
Thief [1 week]

Code:
2015

Xbox One January: 150K / 4 = 37,500
Xbox One February: 276K / 4 = 69,000

Weekly average +84%

PS4 January: 189K / 4 = 47,250
PS4 February: 342K / 4 = 85,500

Weekly average +81%

Notable Events in February

Xbox One
Tax Returns

Evolve [3 weeks]
Dragon Ball: Xenoverse [1 week]

PS4
Tax Returns

Evolve [3 weeks]
Order 1886 [2 weeks] [19XK]
Dragon Ball: Xenoverse [1 week]

Code:
2016

Xbox One January: 131K / 4 = 32,750
Xbox One February: 248K / 4 = 62,000

Weekly average +89%

PS4 January: 229K / 4 = 57,250
PS4 February: 405K / 4 = 101,250

Weekly average +77%

Notable Events in February

Xbox One
Tax Returns

Name Your Game 500GB Bundle $349 [Forza 6/Tomb Raider/Gears UE/Rare Replay] [3 weeks]

Far Cry Primal [1 week] [157K]
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 [3 weeks] [<97K]

PS4
Tax Returns

Far Cry Primal 1TB bundle $399 [1 week]

Street Fighter V [2 weeks] [~207K]
Far Cry Primal [1 week] [206K]
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 [3 weeks] [<193K]

Code:
2017

Xbox One January: 158K / 4 = 39,500
Xbox One February: 215K / 4 = 53,750

Weekly average +36%

PS4 January: 211K / 4 = 52,750
PS4 February: 398K / 4 = 99,500

Weekly average +89%

Notable Events in February

Xbox One
Tax Returns / Earned-Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) delayed to February 15

Price Cut $50 February 17th - February 25th [9 days] 500GB $249 / 1TB $299
Forza Horizon 3 500GB bundle $299 [3 weeks]
Halo Wars 2: Ultimate Edition 1TB bundle $349 [2 weeks]

For Honor [2 weeks]
Halo Wars 2 [1 week]

PS4
Tax Returns / Earned-Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) delayed to February 15

PS4 500GB Price Cut $50 February 12th - February 25th [14 days] 500GB $249
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare Deluxe Edition Glacier White 500GB Bundle $299 [Walmart] [3 weeks]

Nioh [3 weeks]
For Honor [2 weeks]

Code:
2018 

Switch January: 275K / 5 = 55,000
Switch February: 279K / 4 = 69,750

Weekly average +27%

Xbox One January: 235K / 5 = 47,000
Xbox One February: 310K / 4 = 77,500

Weekly average +65%

PS4 January: 254K / 5 = 50,800
PS4 February: 363K / 4 = 90,750

Weekly average +79%

Notable Events in February

Switch
Tax Returns

Xbox One
Tax Returns

Price Cut $50 February 18th - March 3rd [14 days] 500GB $229 / 1TB $249
PUBG with every Xbox One X February 18th - February 24th [7 days]
PUBG 1TB Bundle $299 [2 weeks]

Kingdom Come Deliverance [3 weeks]

PS4
Tax Returns

GameStop Only: Trade in PS4/XB1/NSW and get up to $350 towards PS4 Pro. Offer valid 1/26/18 - 2/11/18 [9 days in January NPD / 8 days in February NPD]

Shadow of the Colossus [4 weeks]
Kingdom Come Deliverance [3 weeks]

Code:
2019

Switch January: 284K / 4 = 71,000
Switch February: 363K / 4 = 90,750

Weekly average +28%

Xbox One January: 101K / 4 = 25,250
Xbox One February: 225K / 4 = 56,250

Weekly average +123%

PS4 January: 195K / 4 = 48,750
PS4 February: 283K / 4 = 70,750

Weekly average +45%

Notable Events in February

Switch
Tax Returns

Switch + $35 eShop code Bundle $299 [3 weeks]

Xbox One
Tax Returns

Xbox One X Fallout 76 1TB Bundles $399 [February 2 - March 31]
Xbox One X Bundles $449 / Xbox One S Bundles $249 [February 17 - March 2] [2 weeks]

Xbox One X Metro Saga 1TB Bundle $499 [$449 during price cut]
Xbox One S 1TB Anthem Bundle $299 [$249 during price cut]

Anthem [2 weeks]
Crackdown 3 [3 weeks] 
Far Cry: New Dawn [3 weeks] 
Metro Exodus [3 weeks] 
Jump Force [3 weeks]
Dead or Alive 6 [1 week] 

PS4
Tax Returns

Anthem [2 weeks]
Far Cry: New Dawn [3 weeks] 
Metro Exodus [3 weeks] 
Jump Force [3 weeks]
Dead or Alive 6 [1 week]

Code:
2020

Switch January: 275K / 4 = 68,750
Switch February: 333K / 4 = 83,250

Weekly average +21%

Xbox One January: 60K / 4 = 15,000
Xbox One February: 130K / 4 = 32,500

Weekly average +117%

PS4 January: 120K / 4 = 30,000
PS4 February: 141K / 4 = 35,250

Weekly average +18%

Notable Events in February

Switch
Tax Returns

Xbox One
Tax Returns

Xbox One X $349 [Jan 19 - Feb 16] [First 2 weeks in February NPD]

Xbox One S All-Digital Edition $199 / Xbox One S $249 / Xbox One X $299 [Feb 21 - Mar 7] [Last 2 weeks in February NPD]

PS4
Tax Returns

Code:
2021 January Weekly Averages *Using Prediction math

NSW: 382K - 389K / 4 = 95,500 - 97,250
PS5: 262K - 267K / 4 = 65,500 - 66,750
XBS: <158K  / 4 = <39,500

Notable Events in February

COVID

Switch
Supply Constraints

Tax Returns

Switch Mario Red & Blue Edition $299

Super Mario 3D World Plus Bowser's Fury [3 weeks]

Xbox Series
Supply Constraints

Tax Returns

Limited store restocks [Week 1 - 3] (Walmart Week 1, Amazon Week 2, Best Buy Series S Week 3)

Massive retailer restock [Week 4] (GameStop, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, MS Store)

PS5
Supply Constraints

Tax Returns

Limited store restocks [Week 1 - 3] (Walmart + Target Week 1, Sony Direct Week 2, Amazon ($499) + Best Buy + Target + Sony Direct Week 3)

Massive retailer restock [Week 4] (GameStop, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Sony Direct)

Notes
From one of the slowest months of the year to the (usually) biggest non holiday month of the year, February is a massive improvement over January, almost doubling sales. This is thanks to tax returns.

COVID times though, so all sales are limited by supply.

We have a new generation and it's probably the worst supply constrained launch yet. Demand is nowhere near satisfied and supply is sent randomly and infrequently. Switch is in Wii/DS mode where Nintendo will sell every console shipped.

For Switch, the Mario Edition console would have been a big seller and Nintendo usually gets more stock in February than January which is pretty much a layover between December and February. Nintendo has also increased production of the Switch since last year because of the insane demand and were able to supply over 500K a month back in August.

PS5 will likely continue to follow how PS4 performed at launch, meaning February would be around January sales. UK and Japan sales showed decent increases in February over January, so maybe PS5 also sees a boost.

Xbox is a bit of a mystery. Not much to go off of.

Recap
February is the third strongest selling month of the year behind November and December. Massive, almost doubling sales from January unless January was a 5 week month.

The biggest February ever recorded back in the 7th gen was the Wii with 753,000 back in 2009. Second biggest? Xbox 360 with 535,000 in 2011.

The biggest February ever recorded in the previous gen was the PS4 with 404,900 in 2016. Second biggest? PS4 again with 398,000 in 2017.
 

slavesnyder

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I think it keeps the demand for Switch high for the next year, but probably won't cause 2022 sales to go from, for example 25M to 30M.

I'm predicting it replaces the current hybrid completely at $299 while that SKU goes to $249 for clearance. Then the second half of Switch's life is selling the Pro to those who already bought a $299 Switch and still have a product for new owners who would've bought the current Switch anyway.

The sales decline shouldn't be drastic, but it won't cause demand to spike either. Current momentum being maintained for another year would be the best and most likely outcome coming out of COVID.
for the fun of it, I predict something else. If I hear oled, more power, bigger display etc. I foresee Nintendo doing the same move as with the 3dsXL. they will add a third SKU with higher price point, better build quality and games that will play better on it. they can even at first put a 400$ price tag on it and it will sell, if it can deliver good graphics and has deluxe haptics. maybe add a unique gimmick and down the road games that can only be played on this one. the mobile phone scheme.
 

Peek-a-boo!

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I can confirm at least one Series X was sold this month.

It's funny in a way, because I picked up a Xbox One back when ~1.8M were sold (late December 2013), and I probably got the Series X when XBS is at ~1.8M.

You strike me as an Xbox only person, like I used to be — out of curiosity, do you own anything else?

I'm predicting it replaces the current hybrid completely at $299 while that SKU goes to $249 for clearance. Then the second half of Switch's life is selling the Pro to those who already bought a $299 Switch and still have a product for new owners who would've bought the current Switch anyway.

Switch Pro — $399
Switch — $299
Switch Lite — $199

I can see the above happening, because plenty of folks (both old and new) would happily pay a premium for the Pro system, while the other two remains at sensible price points, with $50 off the Switch and $30 off the Switch Lite on Black Friday, for example.

... and down the road games that can only be played on this one. The mobile phone scheme.

Oh, I sincerely hope not! I was rather miffed at the small handful of games that were exclusive (or ran much better) on those new 3DS models.
 

Dr. Mario

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I'm with Welfare. Unlike 3DSXL, Nintendo is bound by the joycon size, so the new Switch will look too similar to regular Switch to sell as a third SKU, and I think Nvidia may prefer to move away from Tegra X1 production. So I think it will just subsume old Switch, and the clearance sales (plus that most people buying a Switch now are not too clued in with gaming news), means that sales will only slump a little bit, if that.
 

Welfare

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You strike me as an Xbox only person, like I used to be — out of curiosity, do you own anything else?
Switch, but barely play it now. Also a bunch of legacy systems but I don't have the time to play those now.

I've been majorly Xbox since 2010. Before then I'd only really play COD, GTA, and Halo on it while I played the PS2, PS3, Wii, and DS. Then with Halo Reach I started playing everything on Xbox and mainly stuck with that.

Probably because my friend group was on the 360 in middle school. Before that I played a lot of PS3 exclusives like MGS4, Killzone 2, Warhawk, LBP, and MAG. PS2 for Kingdom Hearts (lol no PS3 BC model), DS for all my Pokemon games, and the Wii for Brawl, Galaxy, and a bunch of VC games.

Then yeah after 2010 it was just easier to get everything for Xbox.
 

Peek-a-boo!

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Switch, but barely play it now. Also a bunch of legacy systems but I don't have the time to play those now.

I've been majorly Xbox since 2010. Before then I'd only really play COD, GTA, and Halo on it while I played the PS2, PS3, Wii, and DS. Then with Halo Reach I started playing everything on Xbox and mainly stuck with that.

Probably because my friend group was on the 360 in middle school. Before that I played a lot of PS3 exclusives like MGS4, Killzone 2, Warhawk, LBP, and MAG. PS2 for Kingdom Hearts (lol no PS3 BC model), DS for all my Pokemon games, and the Wii for Brawl, Galaxy, and a bunch of VC games.

Then yeah after 2010 it was just easier to get everything for Xbox.

It's funny, as 2010 was actually when I started to wean off on Xbox, mostly due to their redoubled focus on Kinect, the declining support from Japan at the time and the PlayStation 3 coming into its own.

And like a lot of folks in the UK and across Europe, my close friends jumped ship from Xbox 360 to the PlayStation 4 and none of them have dabbled with the Xbox One besides myself and another friend who bought it just for Halo 5: Guardians — he was equally as disappointed with the game as I was.

Only own a Switch Lite, happily so, and I will quite likely buy a PlayStation 5 somewhere down the line, and play the odd Xbox exclusive that looks compelling to me on xCloud on my Apple TV (if possible).

Thank you for replying/sharing ... 😊

Nintendo is bound by the joycon size, so the new Switch will look too similar to regular Switch to sell as a third SKU.

Sorry, but are you talking about the upcoming Switch Pro (or whatever it shall be called) or a new new Switch in the foreseeable future?

The Joy-Con is a fundamental part of the (main) Switch identity, and I can't foresee Nintendo changing/dropping them for the Switch Pro. Maybe sort out the ongoing drifting issues, for sure!
 

Dr. Mario

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Yeah I meant the Pro, but like Welfare I'm predicting that it's not treated like a Pro but simply Switch 2021 model. Therefore I said new Switch. That's confusing yeah.
 

wrowa

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for the fun of it, I predict something else. If I hear oled, more power, bigger display etc. I foresee Nintendo doing the same move as with the 3dsXL. they will add a third SKU with higher price point, better build quality and games that will play better on it. they can even at first put a 400$ price tag on it and it will sell, if it can deliver good graphics and has deluxe haptics. maybe add a unique gimmick and down the road games that can only be played on this one. the mobile phone scheme.
That's where I'm at too. I can see both scenarios happening, but if they want to position the Switch Pro as a replacement for the current Switch then I don't see why they would spend extra money on things like an OLED screen. I don't think an OLED screen would sway people's buying intention one way or another (people looking forward to a more powerful Switch might regard an OLED as a nice bonus, but it's the power increase that decides their buying intention; someone who simply just wants a Switch doesn't care either way) and only really helps in giving the Pro modell more of a premium feel. If you go for a premium feel, I'd also assume premium pricing.
 

Elios83

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It seems like Sony has been able to ramp up production since mid February and looking at the increased PS5 supply in UK and Japan I think that this month PS5 has a really good chance to cross the 300k barrier thus outselling the PS4 in the same month of 2014.
Switch will continue to be the best selling console for the month.
About Xbox Series I expect numbers not to be much better than January due to stock issues: <200k
 

slavesnyder

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Oh, I sincerely hope not! I was rather miffed at the small handful of games that were exclusive (or ran much better) on those new 3DS models.
I am not a fan of what they did with "only on 3dsXL"games. it was poorly executed and communicated and I hope they learned their lesson. Depending on the power the new model has, it might be necessary to cut the ties to the old switch hardware to fully take advantage of the machine and delive a top experience. depending on the right games, and good communication, this might convince people to get the new hardware and have a "soft console generation swap". GTA5 or so.
A good way to communicate switch pro only games could be a different cartridge form factor and a second slot for them. The boxes should also be different. Maybe in size, colour scheme or with a gimmick (holographic switch pro logo or whatever).
Nintendo handhelds mostly had the second slot of the previous console, so this is nothing new. Switch pro would be back compatible, switch old can't swallow the new cartridges. those can also be redesigned for more storage space.
sell BOTW2 and Splatoon3 in both formats.

I'm with Welfare. Unlike 3DSXL, Nintendo is bound by the joycon size, so the new Switch will look too similar to regular Switch to sell as a third SKU, and I think Nvidia may prefer to move away from Tegra X1 production. So I think it will just subsume old Switch, and the clearance sales (plus that most people buying a Switch now are not too clued in with gaming news), means that sales will only slump a little bit, if that.
well, looking too similar depends on the imagination of the nintendo design team.
with a slightly larger OLED display we already have one thing. slightly change the form of the joy-cons (or add some grip-ripples), maybe even use a different material for the whole thing, some worthy looking plastic structure, aluminium or javan rhinoceros ivory. add a camera or a beer can holder.

wrowa yep
 

Welfare

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It's funny, as 2010 was actually when I started to wean off on Xbox, mostly due to their redoubled focus on Kinect, the declining support from Japan at the time and the PlayStation 3 coming into its own.

And like a lot of folks in the UK and across Europe, my close friends jumped ship from Xbox 360 to the PlayStation 4 and none of them have dabbled with the Xbox One besides myself and another friend who bought it just for Halo 5: Guardians — he was equally as disappointed with the game as I was.

Only own a Switch Lite, happily so, and I will quite likely buy a PlayStation 5 somewhere down the line, and play the odd Xbox exclusive that looks compelling to me on xCloud on my Apple TV (if possible).

Thank you for replying/sharing ... 😊
I didn't care much about Kinect and wasn't worried about exclusives at that time. If there was a game I wanted to play I would just get it. Wasn't concerned about the "Halo, Gears, Forza" stuff. Also didn't pay attention to the Japanese side of the industry unless you count Nintendo lol, but even then I didn't start really getting into Japanese games as a want until 2013 when FF15 and KH3 were announced. Then I started paying more attention to that stuff.

Switch Pro — $399
Switch — $299
Switch Lite — $199

I can see the above happening, because plenty of folks (both old and new) would happily pay a premium for the Pro system, while the other two remains at sensible price points, with $50 off the Switch and $30 off the Switch Lite on Black Friday, for example.
My problem with this is that Nintendo already has issues supplying even the current $299 model. Adding in a third SKU for production is going to keep the Switch from ever being properly stocked.

For ease of production and supply the easy way to go is replace the $299 Switch with the Pro. It's practically going to be the same device just with a bigger screen and more powerful specs. Trying to sell that at the same time with a $100 difference isn't going to bring in new people. Replacing at $299 though keeps the Switch price the same as it has been, keeps demand high and can start double dipping from the more hardcore Switch users.

And it's not like the 2017 Switch actually costs the Nintendo the same in 2021. It can receive a price cut, but Nintendo can keep the price the same by introducing more up to date hardware.

I'm with Welfare. Unlike 3DSXL, Nintendo is bound by the joycon size, so the new Switch will look too similar to regular Switch to sell as a third SKU, and I think Nvidia may prefer to move away from Tegra X1 production. So I think it will just subsume old Switch, and the clearance sales (plus that most people buying a Switch now are not too clued in with gaming news), means that sales will only slump a little bit, if that.
Yeah I meant the Pro, but like Welfare I'm predicting that it's not treated like a Pro but simply Switch 2021 model. Therefore I said new Switch. That's confusing yeah.
Yeah, basically the Switch Pro is going to look nearly identical to Switch and is going to be the same form factor because of joycons. It being the "2021" Switch is how I see hardware in general going this decade.

My prediction is Xbox introduces the "2023" Series X and S. Mid gen refreshes that completely replace the 2020 models but are still in the same "generation". PS5 will have a new Pro and the slim will be the current specs Digital Edition.

Series X Refresh: $499
Series S Refresh: $299

PS5 Pro: $499
PS5 Slim (Digital): $299