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DBT85

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Oct 26, 2017
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Why entertain the idea of Ricciardo going to Ferrari? Vettel is #1 and I seriously doubt Ricciardo will bow down to #2 status, this applies to HAM and Mercedes as well
I think the issue at Mercedes is that they'd rather have a tier 1 and a tier 2 driver rather than 2 tier 1 drivers. They don't want to actually label them #1 and #2 and give one preferential treatment, they just want one to be good but not great. Years of Lewis and Nico have burned them, but not enough to go full #1 & #2.

Their attitude to Lewis leaving seems to be "everyone will jump when that happens anyway so lets see waa gwan."
 

AlsoZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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What's this talk about Redbull selling the team..

Yes I was under a rock
There's this long-standing hybrid era idea that Mateschitz will try to sell off the team if they can't go back to winning championships due to the engine situation, and the whole F1 program having run its course as a marketing strategy.
 

stryke

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Oct 28, 2017
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Honda must have had a good pitch.
I wonder how patient Red Bull will be if they don't perform.
 

King Picollo

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think they've seen enough to know the performance is already there it's the reliability that could be an issue. Not that the Renaults are much better in that regard.
 

DBT85

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Oct 26, 2017
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Honda must have had a good pitch.
I wonder how patient Red Bull will be if they don't perform.
Well it could also all depend on the new engine regs in '21. If no new manufacturers produce a unit then RedBull might not have much of a choice, as Renault surely won't pick them up again and Mercedes and Ferrari deffo won't supply them. Could be Honda or sell up.
 

xrnzaaas

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've seen rumours floating around that Newey might be leaving RBR (supposedly to Renault). Anyone heard anything on that front?
Newey is in a position which allows him to work on what he finds enjoyable. This rumor would only make sense if Renault also offered him some important position within the company so he could engage in other (pet) projects as well (like when he worked on the Valkyrie with Aston Martin).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why would Newey go to Renault in his twilight years? They're worse in every department compared to Red Bull from facilities, staffing, funding and engine.

McLaren have offered Ricciardo $20m per season. Marko says they keep offering him more. So that's Alonso gone.
 

Brot

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Oct 25, 2017
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the edge
Why on earth would RIC even consider McLaren? How is that team an option for someone who wants to keep winning races and fight for the title? Might as well join Force India.
 

Kalor

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Oct 25, 2017
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RIC isn't going to join a team outside of the big three at this point. He wants to win a championship and McLaren wouldn't be giving him that anytime soon.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Leclerc to replace Kimi at Ferrari according to it.motorsport.com

Ricciardo wanted too much money so Ferrari ended their interest.

The money grabbing Aussie is McLaren bound.
 

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Leclerc to replace Kimi at Ferrari according to it.motorsport.com

Ricciardo wanted too much money so Ferrari ended their interest.

The money grabbing Aussie is McLaren bound.

I'd gladly take Leclerc. About time Ferrari gets a young and promising driver as "#2", if the alternative is people like Massa or Raikkonen way last their prime time. I mean, let's be real here: in this decade, Ferrari only ever had one driver potentially able to fight for championships if the car allowed as much, while the second would occasionally fight for a win, and more often end up somewhere in the midfield. Leclerc may not be a winning bet but at least there's a chance of good results.
 

Black_Stride

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Oct 28, 2017
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Ric aint going to McLaren....guys be serious.
Money isnt going to move him.

If Ferrari or Merc dont sit him down, then he is staying at Red Bull.
It would be cool to see Newey design a line of road cars for Renault.

They wouldnt waste him on a Renault when they could have him elevate the GTR to even higher levels.

Make it a true Super Car but keep the price well below the competition.
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Dammit this week i cannot watch any Archive content in F1TV... it does not keep up... 30 seconds load 4 seconds play ad vitam aeternam ><

edit: Just as i write it gets slightly better... the magics of Resetera... it can play 30 seconds instead of 4
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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McLaren CEO Zak Brown recently acknowledged he's spoken with Chevy and Honda regarding an engine supply contract, and it's believed that like McLaren's run at the 2017 Indy 500, corporate support from Honda Japan has been sought to offset some of the operating costs and at least one significant driver salary.


LOL


Gasly's swapped Asaki Honda from Canada seems to be fine.

Honda looking to introduce next upgrade in Spa or Monza.

Working on a more powerful battery as well as further improvements to the ICE and hybrid elements.

Toro Rosso introducing a new aero package to eliminate the car's weakness in medium / fast speed corners in Austria.

Then we get to see the Red Bull influenced b-spec car after the summer break.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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McLaren reward staff with 25p Freddo chocolate bars

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Matt Morris (left) and David Probyn (third in) - others are Renault engineers - all eating Freddos


McLaren's Formula One staff are considering strike action after being rewarded for their hard work with a chocolate bar each.

Irate workers have contacted Sportsmail to complain about the atmosphere within the struggling team, describing it as 'toxic' and their bosses as 'clueless'.

One employee, speaking under the guarantee of anonymity, said: 'We have been working all hours of the day, sweating blood, and they give us 25p Freddo bars.

The atmosphere at the McLaren within the struggling team is said to be 'toxic'

'The management hand them to the supervisors to divide them out to employees in their team. Strictly one each.'

Despite McLaren having won 20 world championships and with an annual budget of some £200million, the source explained: 'The Freddos are handed out when a package is produced on a tight schedule.

For example, we were given two weeks to produce the Spain upgrade package in May.

'We all worked 24/7 to meet the deadline. We got it done in time. So a week later a Freddo was handed out to all staff involved as "a bonus". Supervisors are embarrassed to hand them out.

'We also got a Freddo last year after building the car.'

The complaints from McLaren's shop floor follow Sportsmail's recent revelation that staff grew so disgruntled with their plight — 166 points off leaders Mercedes — that they planned to take their grievances to former team principal Martin Whitmarsh.

The anonymous source claimed executives even appealed to staff to build prototypes out of wood if they had any ideas how to improve their sub-standard car.

Some of the staff planned to take their grievances to former team principal Martin Whitmarsh

'That shows how clueless they are,' added the employee. 'They told us at the post-Canadian Grand Prix debrief that they knew what was wrong with the car but not how to fix it. They ask us when they are on six-figure salaries.

'We call four of the management the "Untouchables". There is Eric Boullier, racing director, Matt Morris, chief engineer, Simon Roberts, chief operating officer, and David Probyn, operations director. Some of them just walk about chatting. We have no respect for them. People are beginning to boycott the debriefs because they are a joke. The atmosphere is toxic. We would like to go on strike but people fear for their jobs.'

McLaren, who have not scored a point in two races heading into Sunday's French Grand Prix, said: 'McLaren has one of the most loyal and long-serving staff in the entire motorsport industry. Our team leaders are free to reward their staff with spontaneous, thoughtful and fun gifts whenever they feel that a job or task is worthy of extra recognition and reward. This was just such an example, alongside so many others that happen on a daily basis.'
 

AlsoZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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They should put an epilepsy disclaimer before each session, that's really awful.

Also, too much asphalt, it does not slow the car at all...
Those colored stripes should be varying degrees of abrasive, so theoretically the tyres should be shredded after a slide. Has that been the case at all though?