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Start with the role you want to main. Tank, Healer, DPS - DPS you could look between what you want to do. Melee? Ranged? Magic? Physical? Those sort of things.
For me, probably going to go BLM because I've never mained it before and now that you can move lines, I think it's time to give it a go.
I main Summoner (still dislike the rework) but I also have every job at max level so i just jump between everything while im doing roulettes and stuff.
I have jobs I really like and play more than others (AST is my "main" for the most part, and DNC, RDM, SGE, MNK and GNB are my usual go tos as well) but I need to not be playing the same job all the time or I can get burned out, especially if it (or any of my other favs) are going through a rough launch patch. I also like SCH and SMN and DRG and a few others even if I don't play them as much. In ShB I played RDM a ton in Bozja and cleared DRS on it for example and I only finished the EW relic for it last month due to not using it very much, so I can go through streaks depending on the content.
Basically if I have bothered to not be lazy with my profile pic on the class I am currently on and made it look nice I have played it enough to not feel bad
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Does the Fall Guys event feel even worse now? Like, I knew there was a complete disconnect in timing on all the obstacles and things just because of the way this games netcode works but it feels eeeeeeeeeeever wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorse now. I am NOT getting that title.
I mean in terms of aesthetics and gameplay it's summoner but like… the game so clearly wants the WoL to be a tank/melee that it actively breaks the class fantasy for me lol
I've done 20+ enemy pulls with SCH in Eureka, sounds like a tank to me.
I expected long dungeon and trial queues in Endwalker as DPS, but I remember every single time it would estimate like 20-30+ minutes and then pop a few seconds later so I dunno what was going on there.
I may change to Viper for the MSQ. I don't know. I've been playing Ninja since 4.1 and I'm ready for a change. I don't think I'll be in any real hurry to start the MSQ. Other than seeing what kind of ass pull they come up with to explain what's going on with Solution Nine, I really don't have any interest in the story. After Endwalker, I have no faith in the writing team anymore.
I feel it was just the Zenos fights where it felt a little weird to walk into it as a healer.
My headcanon has always been my WoL is SCH/RDM/DRK though, so even if I can't in game, I swap between those styles in fights like the ShB opening. SCH is just the main so personal + fairy healing makes her able to push far beyond normal limits. DRK works thematically since it's a magic focused tank, so overall I'm still a mage with some melee techniques when needed.
RDM will evolve into Pictomancer techniques with Dawntrail.
I mean I do kind of headcanon her using Ruin like Wanda's powers in the MCU. But it's more that everyone's like oh you're such a big buff stupid sellsword meanwhile she's here in a backless evening dress with her grimoire out like 👁️ 👄 👁️ excuse me. Yes I am aware I am deeply overthinking this but I have OC brainworms. Will stick with goth reaper WoL for now since I'm not horrible at it unlike every other melee job rip.
No, I get what you're saying. It definitely happens, playing through the MNK quests as a SCH is funny.
But maybe I wasn't thinking about it too much, but I don't remember too many MSQ situations where I felt a disconnect.
I do think they can be better at integrating in our job choices though, I remember one moment in ShB when Urianger was explaining something and it gave me a chance to say "you remember I'm a scholar, right?"(and he gave a snarky "oh do you want to explain it then?") It was great and I want more of that.
All the jobs are great, but I once I discovered the way of the gun I never looked back. Machinist has everything I ever wanted.
i just use bard and ninja
everything else feels too much effort - too much big brained to me
everything else feels too much effort - too much big brained to me
How difficult is Bard's rotation? I know everyone says Summoner is the easiest job on the planet but i have a kid who the job just isn't clicking with rotation/phase wise and is looking for something a bit more manageable and maybe it's because he used my level 80 summoner but i tried explaining it to him (to be fair i suck at explaining things) and he just couldn't get it to click or didn't vibe with it.
I only know how to play WHM/SMN so i got nothing for him lol. I main a hunter in WOW so i def get where the kid is coming from it took me a long time for SMN to click with me and then they go and change the whole pet system which fucked me for a good long while.
i'm nowhere near end of content (i'm like 55ish) and didnt even finish ARR yet (think i'm close tho) haha i'm not the best person to ask
i just like shooting arrows and singing
I would say that Bard is up there in difficulty if you're trying to be above average at the job. It's definitely the most difficult to play out of the physical ranged dps. It's current setup with being unable to cycle your songs if there is any sort of downtime (this issue is fixed in Dawntrail) can really get your dps off track. On top of it also having DoTs and procs to manage can make it an overwhelming job.
The Zenos kinda supported my headcanon when my WHM started just punching the guy. Just because you're a healer doesn't mean you can't throw hands. Just ask Denken.
View: https://youtu.be/krHmLytCdj0?si=pEfxiewpwaNWEHIF
Also I wish I had a main. My "main" is WHM mostly because I like the aesthetic the most, but healing is so easy imo that it never really feels worthy of calling it a main. I'm just using Glare. I don't know, I every job is fun but I don't think I've ever had a moment where I thought "oh yeah this is the one." Literally nothing will make me drop WHM.
It's a lot like a fighting game to me, SCH is my main because I've played it the most and will default to it more often, but I always have one or two subs for variety. Pictomancer may end up replacing it since it's always been my most wanted job, but we'll see how it feels.
Hell, maybe I should look at it like a 3v3 game, all three are part of my main team.
Also for headcanon I'm glad Pictomancer is also playing with light and dark magic, since balancing that between SCH/DRK with RDM in the middle was part of my theme. I wonder if that's gonna be a mainstay of Pictomancer in the series going forward since it did that in Bravely Default 2 as well.
No I get what you are saying, when you get immersed and the game does such a good job 95% of the time that remaining 5% can be super jarring. To be fair though healers get some really spikey looking rings and I did not take mine off for "that" at the end of 6.0. Plus as some job quests like SGE and WHM stuff shows healer jobs can be quite destructive in their spare time.
I think the weirdest looking time was actually the Lyse quick CS at Rhagar's Reach because that was clearly designed for trading punches, but most of the time it's not too bad.
Well to be more specific my character kinda spun their astro globe around. Your situation sounds better
I admittedly don't have the context of most melee jobs at a high level, but I think it'll be hard to find a more "manageable" DPS job than SMN. I guess it depends a little by what you mean by "manageable" but it's one of the most straight forward jobs.
Like they could try RDM (but I'm biased as I main that) or DNC, but if they don't like dealing with their procs then those might not work for them. And bard is even more proc-heavy (I find it kinda overwhelming) so that would disqualify it if that's the case.
It doesn't get easier than summoner in this game given you just press the legos in order and phoenix and bahamut every minute it fits easy into a sequence.
But that is assuming manageable means ease of use. Like is it certain that the job isn't maybe clicking cause they're just bored of it or don't like the aesthetic any other reasons.
The only job that is arguably easier than smn is a healer like white mage assuming they don't wanna raid anything above normal.
Lego can be in any order
But that is assuming manageable means ease of use. Like is it certain that the job isn't maybe clicking cause they're just bored of it or don't like the aesthetic any other reasons.
The only job that is arguably easier than smn is a healer like white mage assuming they don't wanna raid anything above normal.
Lego can be in any order
I'll be experiencing Dawntrail's MSQ in the most unexciting way possible; I'll be rocking the Machinist, which has basically been the ONLY job on my WOL that's seen MSQ content since Stormblood. I don't know why, but the idea of a three foot tall cowboy strutting in to consistently fuck up everyone's day never gets old. After that, Gunbreaker, Bard and Viper/Ninja are all on the table to farm my roulettes and get the biggest bang for my buck on Tomestones in the launch window.
Re: Expansion starting level - We're over a decade into a game where nearly all of the class design is built around fitting into a two minute rotation. I don't want to have that gradual, leisurely on-boarding experience with a job's mechanics to emulate the 1-100 experience. I just need to know if I like the core one minute rotation to start putting time on it right now, and I can usually figure that out on a target dummy in ten minutes as things are now (Vs. spending an hour or more grinding my character up to 50 inside the accelerated Deep Dungeon leveling track, which doesn't give you much time to mess with the actual rotation outside of the boss).
If you're looking for easy, your best ranged DPS option is Machinist. It trades the procs and buff tracking for a simple 1-2-3 combo that will be broken up by hitting buttons like Drill, Air Anchor and Chainsaw as they come off cooldown, spending your Heat Gauge on rapid-fire burst windows that feels great to engage with and features a very lenient window to avoid overcapping that resource, and summoning a robot with the other gauge that also has a big, lenient window that you can delay (Or forget about) occasionally without completely screwing your personal damage. You'll still have to avoid overcapping Gauss Round/Ricochet casts (Same thing as Bloodletter/Rain of Arrows) and there's a tiny bit of nuance in when you want to hit your Hypercharge (Heat Spender) windows, but it's probably the second easiest class behind Summoner.
Re: Expansion starting level - We're over a decade into a game where nearly all of the class design is built around fitting into a two minute rotation. I don't want to have that gradual, leisurely on-boarding experience with a job's mechanics to emulate the 1-100 experience. I just need to know if I like the core one minute rotation to start putting time on it right now, and I can usually figure that out on a target dummy in ten minutes as things are now (Vs. spending an hour or more grinding my character up to 50 inside the accelerated Deep Dungeon leveling track, which doesn't give you much time to mess with the actual rotation outside of the boss).
Bard's rotation has a lot of spinning plates, honestly. It has a super simple filler rotation; hit Heavy Shot, react to Straight shot procs, and don't let your Bloodletter/Rain of Arrows/Soul Voice gauge overcap. The wrinkle is that while you're doing that, you're also juggling two damage over time debuffs and having to refresh them right before they expire with Iron Jaws, while also tracking and interacting with three songs that require varying degrees of attention to get the most out of them and (Eventually) having to make sure you cycle them in a certain way to get the biggest damage bonus for their Radiant Finale party buff. It's probably the most involved of the ranged DPS classes.
If you're looking for easy, your best ranged DPS option is Machinist. It trades the procs and buff tracking for a simple 1-2-3 combo that will be broken up by hitting buttons like Drill, Air Anchor and Chainsaw as they come off cooldown, spending your Heat Gauge on rapid-fire burst windows that feels great to engage with and features a very lenient window to avoid overcapping that resource, and summoning a robot with the other gauge that also has a big, lenient window that you can delay (Or forget about) occasionally without completely screwing your personal damage. You'll still have to avoid overcapping Gauss Round/Ricochet casts (Same thing as Bloodletter/Rain of Arrows) and there's a tiny bit of nuance in when you want to hit your Hypercharge (Heat Spender) windows, but it's probably the second easiest class behind Summoner.
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And in DawntrailIt doesn't get easier than summoner in this game given you just press the legos in order and phoenix and bahamut every minute it fits easy into a sequence.
But that is assuming manageable means ease of use. Like is it certain that the job isn't maybe clicking cause they're just bored of it or don't like the aesthetic any other reasons.
The only job that is arguably easier than smn is a healer like white mage assuming they don't wanna raid anything above normal.
Lego can be in any order
Exciting! /s
RDM's been my most-beloved and MSQ job since it dropped in Stormblood, and Picto ain't changing that (though I will play it too).
Kicking myself for not making story glams before Endwalker, but I had so much fun with it that I'm doing it again for Dawntrail. The Shadowbringers Artifact gear gives some pretty obvious pieces for that initial boat-ride and city, it's very nautical in theme.
Kicking myself for not making story glams before Endwalker, but I had so much fun with it that I'm doing it again for Dawntrail. The Shadowbringers Artifact gear gives some pretty obvious pieces for that initial boat-ride and city, it's very nautical in theme.
And in Dawntrail
Exciting! /s
View: https://imgur.com/matuLAN
I chuckled seeing this one shared around
I mean… some of those things (though understandable to want) wouldn't exactly improve "ease of use", so.
I was more moving on from that and the picture came more to mind because of the comment on it being "exciting /s".
Gods, I'm so excited for the BA/DRS of Dawntrail. I fully intend to learn and prog the content while it's new this time around. Seriously some of the coolest group content in the game.
🤜🤛
Right there with you.
Though I've embraced Reaper as my main outlet for unleashing havoc, I'll always come home to DRK. I'll be donning my Greatsword to experience the DT story for sure.
Oh I just meant that the picture itself is ???ing at the quote about feedback while ignoring the "improving ease of use" in the same line.
Oh but if you're basing it on that doesn't that mean anything you add automatically decreases ease of use?
Like personally I don't view it like that. Non of the things being cited there depending on implementation would make it harder.
For example worst case example is adding Ramuh/Shiva/Levi you can just put them in after Phoenix replacing the second round of garu/titan/ifrit job essentially stays the same.
The one part that I guess you can make a case for is the bit about "more engaging rotation" based on how most people mean that yeah would mean most likely less easy to use. But for the rest imo it really depends on how it's done.
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That's funny I actually think bard is one of the hardest jobs.
Yeah there aren't too many jobs in the game harder than Bard outside of casual content. I think you could argue Gunbreaker and Black Mage. Monk and Astro are definitely more difficult.
I know they don't add tons of flavor in large part because it's so easy to change jobs or down fantastia, but one of my favorite moments
was in Elpis when you get the race-specific dialogue after being "prepared" for Elpis by Emet. Hythlo said something like "kinda big, no?" and I could just feel my Roe smirking through the screen. I think Hythlo also low-key roasted Emet when a friend of mine was playing Lala but I don't remember
It can add a lot to the moment and it's almost always fun to see. I wish I was better at keeping track of it all.
Very important question: do the Thornmarch weapons squeak when you unsheathe them in cutscenes. I want to know if I can completely butcher Serious Moments with my squeaky moogle axe.
Yep! There is quite a bit of lala specific dialogue that stands out in Shadowbringers and Endwalker. The one you mentioned being one of those scenes with it.
I've always been a DRK main, to the point of being a DRK onetrick in raids, lmao. Put me in anything else and I'll do worse. Well, I could just be placed on PLD but that's also cause PLD is incredibly easy.
After trying to go through Endwalker MSQ on Reaper, I'm definitely sticking with mainlining DRK through all MSQ, there's nothing more thematical to my character.
After trying to go through Endwalker MSQ on Reaper, I'm definitely sticking with mainlining DRK through all MSQ, there's nothing more thematical to my character.