That person's jawline looks similar to Estinien in FFXIV, so most likely a guy.
Final Fantasy XVI teaser site open with more details. Main character is called Clive Rosfield
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The fact that the logo is Phoenix fighting Ifrit means that Joshua lives or Phoenix is transferred to Clive and he goes on to fight whoever Ifrit is.
Its also possible that they thought Joshua inherited Phoenix when in fact he inherited Ifrit and goes berserk at some point during the invasion, destroys everything, reverts back to human unconscious and is picked up by the enemy to be turned into a human weapon. Clive inherited Phoenix all along and got his ass beat by baby brother. He feels responsible for ending what he thinks is too dangerous a being and I bet he's now discriminant against Eikons and Dominants and however that ties into the Crystals which is why we get those lines from him.
Clive is even with a group whose goal is to kill Shiva at the start of the trailer.
Its also possible that they thought Joshua inherited Phoenix when in fact he inherited Ifrit and goes berserk at some point during the invasion, destroys everything, reverts back to human unconscious and is picked up by the enemy to be turned into a human weapon. Clive inherited Phoenix all along and got his ass beat by baby brother. He feels responsible for ending what he thinks is too dangerous a being and I bet he's now discriminant against Eikons and Dominants and however that ties into the Crystals which is why we get those lines from him.
Clive is even with a group whose goal is to kill Shiva at the start of the trailer.
If someone's not impressed with Soken's work for FFXIV, you've probably not looked hard enough. He's got a lot of good shit for every type of music the series is known for.
Also, the water city inside the Crystalline Dominion seems like the perfect kind of place for ray-traced reflections. Just begging for it.
That's some amazing concept art. Sure as hell has Altissia vibes (though that at the time blew my mind). I hope it doesn't disappoint the same way.
Also, the water city inside the Crystalline Dominion seems like the perfect kind of place for ray-traced reflections. Just begging for it.
That's some amazing concept art. Sure as hell has Altissia vibes (though that at the time blew my mind). I hope it doesn't disappoint the same way.
If Shiva is really Jill then things will get interesting. I can already see a party forming.
Never thought I'd play a game where the main characters names is Clive. I don't think I've ever seen a Clive under 60.
She seems to be the advisor to the parliament of the Dhalmekian Republic. The same person is both advisor to the Republic and Titan's dominant.
If you zoom in the map you can see red dashed lines, which seem to be the borders of each nation. The Crystalline Dominion has an odd shape, but seems to share a border with most of the other nations. This makes a lot of sense considering what the Dominion is.
I wonder what the dark spots on the map mean. I bet the large dark area on the northernmost part of the western continent are the fallen Northern Territories that Jill comes from.
Edit: I just came up with one theory that maybe the dark areas of the map are places that are not blessed with the light of a Mothercrystal, meaning they might not have any aether. Or maybe it just has something to do with the blight.
I wonder what the dark spots on the map mean. I bet the large dark area on the northernmost part of the western continent are the fallen Northern Territories that Jill comes from.
Edit: I just came up with one theory that maybe the dark areas of the map are places that are not blessed with the light of a Mothercrystal, meaning they might not have any aether. Or maybe it just has something to do with the blight.
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Thry could be blightlands, yeah. There should be areas with beastmen as well.
Ok so 4 of of the 5 main nations have an eikon controlled by a host known as dominants, i assume that dominants act as a sort of WMD in each kingdoms arsenal, meanwhile the crystalline dominion is Switzerland? Neutral territory where all nations citizens can come and pilgrimages to the biggest of all moth crystals, interesting.By far the most interesting info:
You know what i hated about FFXV, one of the issues were how there were so many Kingdoms introduced in the FFXV lore like tenebrie etc. but we barely get to visit any of them or only visit a small condensed linear portion of it, i hope that all 6 locations are fully fleshed out cities that Clive and the party can freely travel to and explore, shop, fight, enjoy etc. instead of a vast open world feild like FFXV.
I think the villain will be rogue organization that want to gather all Eikon from these other nations and combine them to recreate Bahamut and the main villain want to be Bahamut's Dominant to control all mother crystal
And I think the rogue organization is going to be financed by the "neutral" middle nation that pretends to be above all the Dominants' struggles but really just wants to own all of them.
I don't think Bahamut will be the main villain again. Not after XIV and XV.
Was Bahamut really the main A in XV? XV was so muddled that there was no A besides Ardyn. XV is a whole thing by itself that wanted to be cool but fucked up everything around it to be cool.
I'm guessing whichever Kingdoms has the the Eikon of Ifrit decides to finally use thier dominant to enact thier world domination plan and decides to strike the MC's kingdom first, killing Joshua the MC kingdoms main weapon since their dominant is just a child therefore considered to be an easy target and a stepping stone to their main goal, once Joshua dies the enemy dominant lays waste to the MC kingdom and the MC and a few others barely manage to escape, Clive develops a thirst for vengeance thats targeted not only on the enemy dominant but ALL dominants considering them to be nothing but nightmares that need to be brought down.
Several years later Clive decides to use his sword skills to survive and joins a mercenary group shown at the start of the announcement trailer, and im guessing the merc groups main goal is hunting down and killing dominants? maybe they consider dominants and eikons to be too much of a threat to the world, therefore having goals align with the MC, Clive works with the mercs while also having another goal, finding the dominant that killed his brother.
That's my jist on what the story could be.
Several years later Clive decides to use his sword skills to survive and joins a mercenary group shown at the start of the announcement trailer, and im guessing the merc groups main goal is hunting down and killing dominants? maybe they consider dominants and eikons to be too much of a threat to the world, therefore having goals align with the MC, Clive works with the mercs while also having another goal, finding the dominant that killed his brother.
That's my jist on what the story could be.
That was the plan for the "final ending" all the DLCs were working toward, yeah. Bahamut decided the best way to protect Eos was to purge all life from the planet and start over. It was also his fault Ardyn went insane in the first place.
I have a feeling that Clive would be more aligned with the goals of Akatsuki. I have a feeling that he will go around, 'collecting' or perhaps recruiting, dominants and this is why he can use their abilities similar to how he has the ability to use Pheonix's abilities when he is Joshua's shield. So in the comparison to Naruto, he'll be going to collect the dominant's powers similar to how Akatsuki collected the Jinchuriki.
That could be it, their hate for Eikons backs that theory up.
ehhh not quite. The cancelled DLCs that got turned into the Dawn of the Future novel are alternate universes/endings, not something building up to Bahamut wanting to purge the earth. It's billed as an "alternate grand finale" specifically.
I assume the grayed out areas are zones fallen to the Blight?
The entire northern Storm is like that, and according to Jill's bio that's where she's from.
So it seems like some sort of physical thing that is eating away the land, forcing the nations to go to war to enter in possession of more land and resources.
Lots of geopolitical implications in this.
The entire northern Storm is like that, and according to Jill's bio that's where she's from.
So it seems like some sort of physical thing that is eating away the land, forcing the nations to go to war to enter in possession of more land and resources.
Lots of geopolitical implications in this.
Noctis was always meant to be a dork. Even Nomura mentioned that he was the type of guy who was acting all cool with his friends but completely unsure how to talk to women if I remember correctly. So personality wise he didn't change much.
Alternate universe or not, Bahamut in XV was a total jerk and screwed over so many people.
When he finds Shiva's dominant he will discover it is Jill, his almost sister, and hesitates to do so.
I think so. If you look at the East continent and how much of it is darkened, you would understand why they're looking to conquer other territories.
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I think he is branded. He didn't join a merc group, he is forced to be a part of this group. The mark on his face is preventing him from disobeying orders.
I think Clive has been captured and enslaved.
Yeah I don't think that's a good line of thinking to go down given they're redacted for a reason. That would be mighty weird to redact in a way where the length of it would be another confirmation marker.
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I'll be mighty surprised if Waloed the war focused nation with a multi legged horse on their flag doesn't have the Odin dominant. I mean Rosaria also has straight up phoenix on their flag. I think Sanbreque might have more than 1 dominant.
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What are the chances that Jill is the Shiva dominant? She was taken from the northern territories and Sanbreque is in the northern part of the world map. If she is it gives the starting scene of the trailer a different context too with Clive's mission being killing her.
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Gave coloring in the nation borders and territories a try. No idea what that long stretch of land is that touches on the crystal dominion maybe it's part of the dominion. Also had to guess on the border bit between Rosalia and Dhalmekian Republic which looks like mountains but didn't have a drawn border.
All darker land seems to be unclaimed.
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What you're talking about is what I meant in the part of my post where I said "not really Sasuke". He was gonna be cold at first, then an insecure kid acting though. Then we got the shitty char in a shitty game aka XV.
Watching the trailer again, I'm pretty sure the woman smoking is Titans dominant. What's really interesting is she seems to be unwilling to fight for them. That's what the older man is upset about, to which she replies it was the republic that fought back "the crusaders", implying that their military is strong enough without an Eikon. Very interesting.
Good job with the colouring. Like others, I think the darkened parts are indeed affected by the Blight, being Stygian lands (as called in some localizations). Fits Jill's Northern Territories having fallen. I also think she's Shiva's Dominant (which would make Clive's potentially unbreakable oath to kill her more dramatic).Yeah I don't think that's a good line of thinking to go down given they're redacted for a reason. That would be mighty weird to redact in a way where the length of it would be another confirmation marker.
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I'll be mighty surprised if Waloed the war focused nation with a multi legged horse on their flag doesn't have the Odin dominant. I mean Rosaria also has straight up phoenix on their flag. I think Sanbreque might have more than 1 dominant.
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What are the chances that Jill is the Shiva dominant? She was taken from the northern territories and Sanbreque is in the northern part of the world map. If she is it gives the starting scene of the trailer a different context too with Clive's mission being killing her.
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Gave coloring in the nation borders and territories a try. No idea what that long stretch of land is that touches on the crystal dominion maybe it's part of the dominion. Also had to guess on the border bit between Rosalia and Dhalmekian Republic which looks like mountains but didn't have a drawn border.
All darker land seems to be unclaimed.
I sure hope as hell we're getting to explore a good chunk of what's presented. It's not going to be open-world (and I honestly don't want that), but give me large stretches separated by mountains and stuff like that. Basically zones with more organic borders. You even have towns beyond the big cities. Hell, maybe don't make the Blight areas explorable (which would take a big load off the second continent).
Then again, I also remember this:
Like, perhaps I never expected to be able to explore it all, but being confined to the northeastern land wasn't something I wanted either.
It's interesting that Waloed is being described as the warring nation when the trailer shows us Sanbreque being an aggressor against Rosalia(the dragoon) and them being the opposing party against the Dhalmekian Republique (Shiva/Titan battle).
Because of the trailer I think it's likely Rosalia might just fall early on? Maybe that forces Clive to move to the Iron Kingdom and the Kingdom is using Rosalian refugees for their agenda.
Given the Iron Kingdom is described as a nation viewing dominants as an abominations makes me think the group Clive is part of at the start of the trailer is the Iron Kingdom 3rd party intervening in the wars just to kill the dominants maybe. Them singling out Shiva though and not also try for Titan might go against this though.
Because of the trailer I think it's likely Rosalia might just fall early on? Maybe that forces Clive to move to the Iron Kingdom and the Kingdom is using Rosalian refugees for their agenda.
Given the Iron Kingdom is described as a nation viewing dominants as an abominations makes me think the group Clive is part of at the start of the trailer is the Iron Kingdom 3rd party intervening in the wars just to kill the dominants maybe. Them singling out Shiva though and not also try for Titan might go against this though.
please please please please please let this city be explorable.If someone's not impressed with Soken's work for FFXIV, you've probably not looked hard enough. He's got a lot of good shit for every type of music the series is known for.
Also, the water city inside the Crystalline Dominion seems like the perfect kind of place for ray-traced reflections. Just begging for it.
That's some amazing concept art. Sure as hell has Altissia vibes (though that at the time blew my mind). I hope it doesn't disappoint the same way.
I keep thinking Clive will somehow with all the revenge transform into Bahamut or Diablos. With his dark brutal theme going on when he is older. I bet he uses all the summons as we see in the trailer, their powers. And eventually, he somehow makes a pact to be the dominent of Bahamut or Diablos. Wouldn't be shocked if it goes like this.
I want cities, castles! Interiors! This one and the one in the other concept image that is new are definitely going to be explorable! For sure! And I bet there are more since there are 6 kingdoms and towns in between!
