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Fire Emblem: Three Houses primarily developed by Koei Tecmo, IntSys supplied "minimum" staff
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Fire Emblem Three Houses is probably going to be the best selling game Koei Tecmo has ever developed.
Koei Tecmo's secret is that they know what constitutes good enough and it allows them to create content on a scale that is the envy of other developers.
Koei Tecmo's secret is that they know what constitutes good enough and it allows them to create content on a scale that is the envy of other developers.
They maybe should have put some more IS devs on it since some parts feel cheap/janky, but I can't complain too much as it's a good game so far. Hopefully they're working on a new (and good) Paper Mario.
There is a "lead game designer" credit for Koei's staff. Also, the writers were from Koei too. That early interview likely had misleading wording or translation. Out of those 17 IS people, 8 positions are just for the character designers, illustrations and music.
Koei's staff definitely weren't just programmers unlike what that early interview made it sound like.
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Exactly. Don't get why people are talking like Koei did the entire writing, music or the entire game concept. They did the grunt work(programming, asset creation, etc) and helped with those aspects. Of course Koei workers did leave theirs inputs from others SRPG experiences, but top planning comes from IS.
Out of curiosity, did you finish it?
Yeah, it looks like they were trying to reassure the fans.
No wonder the story starts off kind of bad (it starts off too fast paced), you are literally thrown into the school almost immediately, you were better off immediately starting by walking into it.
See, if that kind of thing were how characters were picked then we would have gotten Heihachi/The Prince/Chosen Undead/Goku/Haruka Amami/SOMEONE for a second Bamco rep instead of being limited to just Pac-Man while Konami, Capcom, and Sega are on their third character.
Someone correct if i'm wrong but FE is a Intelligent Systems IP and Nintendo co-owns the IP name. So Nintendo isn't choosing who develop the series, it's developed by IS and they can get external help like this time. But even if Nintendo wanted to give the series to Koei, they would need IS to also be onboard with this.
Interesting. Wasn't aware this could be a similar situation like Pokemon. I know Nintendo owns majority stake in I.S similar to the pokemon company.
Edit: After some research, Nintendo owns 100% of IS rather than "just a majority" like Pokemon Company. So I'd imagine Nintendo has full control over the IP.
Weird that they started full development after the reveal. Guess that explains why it was delayed.
Koei Tecmo made two first party games released in July which is interesting. They're kind of janky developers but they're efficient.
Hopefully these projects help them learn how to optimize for Switch better.
IS hardly putting staff on the projects is also interesting, not sure if it's due to not having HD development experience or if they're working on something else.
Paper Mario game should be due next year or so
Koei Tecmo made two first party games released in July which is interesting. They're kind of janky developers but they're efficient.
Hopefully these projects help them learn how to optimize for Switch better.
IS hardly putting staff on the projects is also interesting, not sure if it's due to not having HD development experience or if they're working on something else.
Paper Mario game should be due next year or so
Where are you seeing 100% ownership because that's not reflected in any of Nintendo's financials
FE is own by Nintendo. They gave IS their last chance at the series with Awakening. It sold well and save the brand.
I find hard to believe they started full development after the FE direct reveal. I mean, they have been working on this since 2015. They went 1,5 years just on concept stage?
Are you sure is full owned by Nintendo? Also, they gave FE their last chance with Awakening, not IS. IS would continue to help assisting Nintendo on consoles devkits and all while FE would be dead if not by Awakening.
Intelligent Systems isn't owned by Nintendo, but Nintendo built them a building recently. They're about as close to a first party developer you can get without being first party.
I was wondering what was up with the awful framerate and textures (those clouds, lol)
Too early to comment on my feelings of the actual game, though. I've only played a couple hours.
FE funded by Nintendo to be precise. No Nintendo money no FE.
Nintendo and IS work far more closely than that. The main bulk of IS staff upon creation were nintendo employees Nintendo gave to the founder to work on a project. They have almost always worked within the Nintendo's offices. It's really nothing like a pokemon, IS is closer to a contractor with ownership stake than something completely separate to nintendo that nintendo works with. As such nintendo has a great deal of influence within them.
IS is completely independent from Nintendo, at least legally. It was founded by former Nintendo staff and they co-developed some of their games from the start for years before making an original game, so they have a very close relationship, but there's no actual direct ownership. The Japanese wikipedia page outright states it.
Hm, I wonder what this means for potential sequels? Cross-developed titles like this can be tricky to follow up on from a business/legal perspective. I do hope this isn't our only outing in Fodlan.
Yup. Also, the lead character artist work was outsourced too to Chinatsu Kurahana (similar to the 3DS Fire Emblem games, which had Awakening and Fates by one character artist external to IS, same for Echoes).
I sometimes forget the Advance was because it was on the GBA. The DS entries throw me off :p
It can realistically only be paper Mario.
They definitely didn't go off of developing a fire emblem game to develop their much less popular grid strategy game, that's for sure.
technically they're all called famicom wars in japan since that's where the series started.
It is surprising because it means that Koei Tecmo may have made the best Fire Emblem game.
Is that why the graphical assets are sub-par at best? Fire Emblem Warriors wasn't a looker, and everything here from the ground textures to geometry are amateur-hour levels of embarassing. (Great at the support convos are, I wince every time I'm forced to behold the static backgrounds or randomly-depressed floors)
I normally don't care about this kind of thing, but great as the game itself is, the incongruity in production values is a big turn-off -- I'm stunned any of this was signed-off.
I normally don't care about this kind of thing, but great as the game itself is, the incongruity in production values is a big turn-off -- I'm stunned any of this was signed-off.
more like years of "where the hell is Intelligent Systems"
but I'd take DK