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IDontBeatGames

ThreadMarksman
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Oct 29, 2017
16,700
New York

View: https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1694084527516254503?s=20


View: https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1694085562553061816

Full text: "Despite rumors to the contrary, we have not eliminated our News section. We simply fired all the news editors who didn't resign in protest and have been slowly gutting our other departments as Valnet continues CBR's shift to an AI-driven, clickbait-focused content mill."

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Oct 25, 2017
19,288
People need to vehemently reject and cease giving sites doing this any clicks whatsoever. If they can't afford to pump out content with actual humans creating it, they deserve to go out of business.
 

NotLiquid

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
34,874
My exposure to CBR is limited but my impression of having read them a few times over the years is that they're relatively clickbaity in general, so somehow it doesn't surprise me that the owners would take it down this type of road.
 

Helix

Mayor of Clown Town
Member
Jun 8, 2019
24,007
they have the most bait filled headlines for their articles so this does not remotely surprise me
 

Astro Cat

Member
Mar 29, 2019
7,745
I mean anyone who's read anything on there in the past few months or so knew this was obvious.
 

Sagroth

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,869
I left that community years ago, but I made a number of lifelong friends there. It's a real tragedy seeing what the site has become.
 

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Nov 14, 2017
18,514
I see these clickbait titles every time I open a new google tab. All the articles are formatted the same way. I'm glad they're being called out for it.
 

Surakian

Shinra Employee
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
10,985
Are they a banned source here? If not, they should be a banned source with this news.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,734
Not surprising at all, I have def gotten that vibe the few times I have visited there
 

grand

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,200
We're stress testing the thought experiment: if a clickbait site becomes AI driven, could anyone tell a difference?
 

AgeEighty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,591
Sorry Jonah, this is what happens when you take the big payday and sell your creation to vulture capitalists.

I'm sorry to all their writers and employees.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
116,671
People need to vehemently reject and cease giving sites doing this any clicks whatsoever. If they can't afford to pump out content with actual humans creating it, they deserve to go out of business.

I agree with this. There is no point for "content" websites to exist unless they have actual people working there writing the content.
 

Vash

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,822
There are even more people speaking out.

Former/Current(?) Manager also weighed in.
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Tracksuit Larry

Alt-Account
Banned
Jun 26, 2023
1,316
Not to kick CBR while it's down... but they were always super kickable, and this doesn't seem out of bounds for them at all.

There are a bunch of these sorts of Fandom/"Geek Culture" focused sites that are going to be doing this in the future (if they're not already, and a lot of them probably are and we just don't know it yet) because so much of their "Content" is literally just lowballing desperate freelancers who want to say they're a writer or a "journalist" or whatever and will accept dogshit rates to rewrite press releases and recap trailers or basically do 3rd party PR fluff-work to ensure the one or two people on staff who actually need access in order to do junkets can still do that.

So when the opportunity presented itself for these editors/site owners to cut out the self-debasing freelancers they'd been assigning that "work" to, and instead just feed press releases, trailers, and all the other free marketing cruft that makes up 70% of any given "Geek Culture" site's content into ChatGPT or an equivalent, of course they took it.

Yes, this sucks. But the parade of exploitation for corporate franchise media that it was before this came along also sucked. These sites were always clickfarm content mills. The only thing that's changed now is that they've decided to save whatever pennies on the ad revenue split they could and asked a computer to write their junk posts for them.
 

TheMadTitan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
27,371
As I said in the comics thread, gotta grab Screen Rant and Game Rant, too. Same parent company, same bullshit articles. I'm sure they have more sites, too.
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,532
I've been getting AI-generated images and articles in my Google search results lately. It's extremely frustrating. If anyone knows of a good extension to filter this garbage out, let me know.
 
Mar 11, 2020
5,151
My exposure to CBR is limited but my impression of having read them a few times over the years is that they're relatively clickbaity in general, so somehow it doesn't surprise me that the owners would take it down this type of road.
There were some genuinely good articles they put out. I know someone who worked there before freelance.
 

xendless

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Jan 23, 2019
10,818
I've been getting AI-generated images and articles in my Google search results lately. It's extremely frustrating. If anyone knows of a good extension to filter this garbage out, let me know.

The images are probably new, but sadly articles have been in this fucked up bot state for years
Source, my ass who had to comb google news everyday to run a fansite, ENDLESS TRASH
 
Mar 11, 2020
5,151
I've been getting AI-generated images and articles in my Google search results lately. It's extremely frustrating. If anyone knows of a good extension to filter this garbage out, let me know.
Any time i look anything up for a game now it's like 10 links to these AI run gaming "guide" sites right at the fucking top and they all suck and are useless and copy paste the same thing from each other. It's fucking awful.

Kinda have to just use discord or exclusively search with fucking reddit in the keywords
 

ivantod

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,516
I've been getting AI-generated images and articles in my Google search results lately. It's extremely frustrating. If anyone knows of a good extension to filter this garbage out, let me know.
Yeah, append "reddit" to your search query. Google search sucks ass for quite some time now. Unless you're looking for something very specific, any kind of more generic search query simply results in a slew of AI/Content Mill articles which are completely devoid of any kind of useful information.

Or to put it another way:

So you want to execute a google search. For this you first need to go to google web site. In order to do this, type https://www.google.com in your browser address bar. Now you will get a text input where you are able to put in your search query. Select the input box so that you can type your search query. Type in your search query. However, you want to get actually useful results. Now we will explain to you how you can get actually useful results. In order to get the actually useful results type the word "reddit" after your query.

Ugh... I can't do this any more sorry. But if you would like to know when the next version of this post will be released, watch this post. We'll update you with the release date as soon as it is announced. This way you will not miss the new version of this post.
 

smocaine

Member
Oct 30, 2019
2,030
How do you even rank when everything's AI generated, or is the goal just more pages with more ads?
 

GifGafJef

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Dec 19, 2022
1,374
That site was already pretty terrible in terms of clickbait from what I remember so AI clickbait will be a sight to see for sure.
 
Oct 29, 2017
5,336
Minnesota
Not to kick CBR while it's down... but they were always super kickable, and this doesn't seem out of bounds for them at all.

There are a bunch of these sorts of Fandom/"Geek Culture" focused sites that are going to be doing this in the future (if they're not already, and a lot of them probably are and we just don't know it yet) because so much of their "Content" is literally just lowballing desperate freelancers who want to say they're a writer or a "journalist" or whatever and will accept dogshit rates to rewrite press releases and recap trailers or basically do 3rd party PR fluff-work to ensure the one or two people on staff who actually need access in order to do junkets can still do that.
I reviewed and wrote about comics for like, two years for basically free because I got paid in comic books. The state of comic book "journalism" has been a mess for what seems like a long, long time. Like if you aren't writing for IGN, you aren't going to get paid much to cover the next Batman run or Image darling.

Also Scott Snyder gets mad if you give his books low reviews and emails your boss to complain lol
 

BossAttack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
43,186
I'll be honest, I don't think we'll see a difference. They were already a click-bait "news" site for nerd shit. Insert Popular Actor being considered for Insert Popular Role.
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,895
Is it sad I can't tell when this firing happened? Because I've associated CBR for years with the type of clickbait indistinguishable from AI
 

BWoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
38,480
Remember when Gizmodo tried to give AI the easiest, most basic article concept in the world of "List of Star Wars Movies And TV Shows" and it bungled it beyond belief? Don't know why these places think they can cut out humans from the equation.

Unsurprisingly, employees across G/O Media-owned publications were furious in response to the news. And as it turned out, with good reason. In the very first AI-generated article Gizmodo published last week, the website's "Gizmodo Bot" completely missed the mark. The post, a so-called "Chronological List of Star Wars Movies & TV Shows," was terribly written and riddled with factual mistakes. Before it was corrected, the list failed to put the movies and shows into their correct chronological order and excluded some more recent chapters and spinoffs of the beloved franchise.

futurism.com

Gizmodo's AI-Generated Star Wars Article Still Has Errors, and Now It's Ranking on Google

Gizmodo's AI-generated "Star Wars" article — a messy first foray into AI content on behalf of owner G/O media — is on Google's first page.
 

Double 0

Member
Nov 5, 2017
7,494
I mean, I left and hated CBR even while Jonah was in charge (not exactly his fault, the culture there just pissed me off), but this is really pathetic.
 

Tracksuit Larry

Alt-Account
Banned
Jun 26, 2023
1,316
Don't know why these places think they can cut out humans from the equation.

Because they pretty easily can. Most folks don't actually read the articles at these sorts of free PR outlets for entertainment news! They will share the headline and, especially in places like these, only do that much because it provides a convenient reason to talk about what the OP wanted to talk about in the first place. The link is just a jumpoff point, nobody's really expected to do much more than check the headline and scan for a picture.

A lot of this stuff is posted specifically for the shareable headline + img. Not because editorial at the geek culture site in question actually cares about the content they're "creating." The hope is that it becomes that day's link that ends up "going viral" (i.e. shared maybe 5000-7500 times on social media and posted to a subreddit where 400 replies happen underneath that headline) and there are enough ad impressions to make that worthwhile.
 

iiicon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,917
Canada
The blogs hosted on CBR, like Comics Should Be Good, or Kelly Thompson's blog (which I can't remember the name of at the moment), used to be daily visits for me. It's sad to see a once good community experience death by a thousand cuts over the years.