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Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
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It's really hard to tell. This is not a normal occurrence since most people wouldn't have the time and expertise to sit and make improvised fire arms. However I could see it really changing the security around these events. They probably shouldn't let anyone get that close while they are making speeches.
Not really. Japan has no gun violence, ergo less security for prominent politicians. This shooter would never have gotten past Secret Service. Security in the US has to be much more intense because the potential risk is much higher.
Holy shit this is horrible, I realise security were on him immediately after but how on earth was he able to get right there. That's crazy.
I wish I hadn't watched the footage. Not only is it horrible to watch, but I got into the thinking of what if... he had moved after the first shot, he might've lived.
I know you can't think like that.
I know you can't think like that.
This event is kinda surreal in just how completely out of the blue it is. I think even the assassin might've been surprised that his gun managed to work. It sure seems like the first shot didn't go off properly.
It's also reminded me that Rahm Emanuel is America's ambassador to Japan for some reason.
None of the people I know of Chinese descent are too broken up about his death.
It's also reminded me that Rahm Emanuel is America's ambassador to Japan for some reason.
...for the world? idk about that
None of the people I know of Chinese descent are too broken up about his death.
The day Modi dies is going to be the most insufferable day to be on social media in the history of the Internet.
What's insane to me, as an American, when I watched the non-edited footage, is how most people just sort of stood around wondering what happened after the first shot went off - Abe included. Because the attacker clearly missed, Abe just stood there and slowly turned around, with none of his security moving to protect him from any potential subsequent shots.
If this was in the US, or indeed any number of other countries in the world, Abe would have immediately have been swarmed and surrounded by bodyguards/Secret Service agents after the first shot went off - though I also doubt the assassin would have gotten anywhere near him to begin with.
It really does speak to how rare this sort of attack is in Japan that A) the killer was able to get so close without seemingly anyone noticing or caring and B) apparently no one around Abe's first instinct was "oh fuck someone is trying to kill him"
Yeah, my instinct is that the first shot was a misfire or something, because Abe doesn't seem phased at all. Could be shock, but the second shot seemed REALLY powerful, so I kind of doubt it. If he'd had the instinct to hit the deck, he might have survived? Or if one of his guards leapt over and tried to cover him? Crazy to think about. I'm sure I'd freeze up too, though.
Absolutely going to change the security makeup for politicians going forward. The fact he was able to get both shots off shows that his detail was completely unprepared for this kind of thing, which says a lot about violent crime in Japan where even their "secret service" wasn't ready for it.
Absolutely going to change the security makeup for politicians going forward. The fact he was able to get both shots off shows that his detail was completely unprepared for this kind of thing, which says a lot about violent crime in Japan where even their "secret service" wasn't ready for it.
Given Japan's relative level of safety it's probably to be expected that their security is also a lot more lax.
It's a 4chan meme that has spread out everywhere
Even on greek TV
View: https://twitter.com/PampaMissile/status/1545420776463032321
Seems like at least the left chest/kidney area from the way he buckled and curls his arm up.
Maybe it hit an artery or something
I think it was pellets, people are saying it is a shotgun. Could have been metal shards or something who knows.
Front of the neck, the Guardian had a quote from one of the surgeons.
Surreal footage, can't tell if the first shot even landed
🤔
Honestly it seems like most folks thought it was someone setting off fireworks or a car backfire or something. It sounds pretty different from a normal gun.
...for the world? idk about that
None of the people I know of Chinese descent are too broken up about his death.
I'm sure it's not just Chinese, Koreans and plenty of other Asian countries won't be all that upset over his death.
You don't expect to this type of thing these days, I was quite shocked waking up to read what happened to him.
RIP.
RIP.
Well, USA had 4 presidents assassinated throughout history, i assume the security at this point concerning politicians must be ridiculously tight.
This however is something unheard of in Japan i think, someone please educate me if i'm wrong.
My first through was definitely a balloon popping.
The war crime denying kind, yes.
Yup. Also Asian equivalent of a holocaust denier. The only difference is he actually has the power to influence it in his country.
Japan has had 3 prime ministers assassinated, not including Abe. So it's not too far off. The 3 came within a very tumultuous political time for Japan (1921-1932).
In 1960, Inejirō Asanuma, the Socialist Party leader was run through with a sword and killed during a televised debate, but he wasn't prime minister.
Other than that, the last prime minister to be assassinated was 1932, so before Japan's postwar changes.
You can see the front right collar puff out and get a few specks on it just as he turned towards the attacker. Looks like it would ahve gone into neck/chest and through his right shoulder area.
Yes, but hard to say that it's extreme. Much like the new MAGA conservatism in the US, it has become fairly mainstream in Japan during his tenure.
Like a canon you see at American sporting events, yeah.
Being a nationalist in Japan is unfortunately a very, very, very common thing. So is anti-Semitism.
Shocking.
Just hope he doesn't become a martyr that inspires more war crime denial.
Cow Mengde I agree with all your sentiments in the thread.
Just hope he doesn't become a martyr that inspires more war crime denial.
Cow Mengde I agree with all your sentiments in the thread.
There is no question there is going to be geopolitical ramifications from this. I'm not sure in what form, but Japan is a different nation from this day forward.
You probably mean (ex-)potus getting shot, but I first thought you meant Abe getting assasinated while in the USA, which would also be wild
Chris does some great videos like this when certain events occur in Japan.
I always remember seeing video of the Asanuma thing on Tv Offal in the UK which had a lovely segment entitled "Assassination of the Week"
According to the shooter himself, he held a grudge against a religious group he believed to be connected to Abe. There are also claims that his intended target was a "senior official" of said group and when he wasn't present, he just decided to kill Abe instead.
This event is kinda surreal in just how completely out of the blue it is. I think even the assassin might've been surprised that his gun managed to work. It sure seems like the first shot didn't go off properly.
It's also reminded me that Rahm Emanuel is America's ambassador to Japan for some reason.
...for the world? idk about that
None of the people I know of Chinese descent are too broken up about his death.
The day Modi dies is going to be the most insufferable day to be on social media in the history of the Internet.
Apologies, my post was uninformed. I didn't know about his views and policies and don't support them. Thank you for informing me.
I still can't get pass the fact that non of his security people were checking his back.
Well from the early 60s to early 80s, we did have a 20-year span of high profile leaders being assassinated or attempted to (JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, George Wallace, Reagan, I think Ford was shot or nearly shot twice). Security around presidents is pretty insane now, a gunman like this would never be able to get this close.