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Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe shot in the back in Nara City (Suspect arrested, UP: Abe confirmed dead) (See Staff Post)
- Thread starter Mankoto
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its crazy the dude spreading the Kojima thing on twitter hasn't been straight up banned
expected but crazy
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View: https://twitter.com/DamienRieu/status/1545460974592970752?s=20&t=HBqzqE_KanZ2qT0TjTVtoA
I see he has apologized
expected but crazy
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View: https://twitter.com/DamienRieu/status/1545460974592970752?s=20&t=HBqzqE_KanZ2qT0TjTVtoA
I see he has apologized
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It is a bit disappointing to see Chris not mention anything about Abe other than "he was hated by some".. yeah literally everybody on Earth is loved and hated by someone.
Would not have been hard to say "he was loved by people EXAMPLE and hated by others EXAMPLE".
Not saying fully praise him or rag on him, dude has just been murdered live on TV, but the majority of people watching Chris' video probably have no clue about Abe.
Would not have been hard to say "he was loved by people EXAMPLE and hated by others EXAMPLE".
Not saying fully praise him or rag on him, dude has just been murdered live on TV, but the majority of people watching Chris' video probably have no clue about Abe.
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My heart goes to people of Japan. Seeing people killed is scary and traumatic. Especially when it's done in such a public manner to a public figure. It's shocking no matter how bad the person was.
IMO it's a testament to effectiveness of gun control laws that the best option a highly motivated and skilled individual ready to throw their life away could come up with was some random DIY contraption.
IMO it's a testament to effectiveness of gun control laws that the best option a highly motivated and skilled individual ready to throw their life away could come up with was some random DIY contraption.
He's a classic example of a controversial politician.
Japan is the largest democratic force in East Asia and is one of the only countries in the region that can realistically stand up to China. I think it's easy to see why there are people who pragmatically care more about his actual actions than they do about his remarks.
Yup.
Surprised to see so many people wished him well, though I suppose feelings of Asian people are not important for many in a US centric places like ERA.
Like can you imagine ERA feeling sad if this happens to Trump? Hah.
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Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death
I've been having the same thought, there's so many people and so many more visible 'celebrities' for people to take issue with that I'm suprised attacks like this aren't more common
Abe was really good for foreigners like Chris coming to Japan. My brother who start living in Japan around the time Abe came to power was quite sad today. His wife cried because of it. This is definitely a day in Japan that will be mourn for some time.
that's not what Mengde was talking about, all they asked of is a call for restraint from people giving rosy eulogies to someone who denied war crimes.
we have reached peak poison irony, we can't get any worse.
That would mean throwing your life away. And overcoming that self-preservation instinct is very hard.
And let's be honest, when we talk to each other about how much we hate Trump and other politicians & celebrities, the feeling of emotional support and emotional relief is what most of us are seeking. All other purposes are secondary for most.
I mean this is only a bad thing because it will probably push Japan even further into ultranationalism. But in a vacuum a dead fascist is absolutely a good thing.
And still a small fraction of the assault on freedom of speech and democracy Abe and his party has done.
It's honestly kind of weird whenever someone bad (ultranationalist war-crime deniers seem bad too me at least) dies, and there is always a bunch of people defending them ("he is dead now, time to respect him!"). And it's like no, you need to gain that respect when you are alive, it isn't granted automatically when you die. I suppose with japan you have to add orientalism (or japanism) and ignorance to the mix. Reminds me of the reactions to the death of that Dragon Quest composer who was also a massive cunt and ppl were surprised to see ppl happy about it!
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I'm not surprised at all. News coverage of Japanese politics in the US has done an incredibly good job flattening all political elements within. Shinzo Abe to most Americans is just the "please have sex" meme, not a far right nationalist whose influence on Japanese politics has been far reaching and destructive.
This death might be the one thing to temporarily unite non-Japanese East Asian countries though lol
Yeah, almost as bad as the war crimes Abe was actively trying to suppress
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Takes me back when Boris caught corona. Some nutty era users 🐑 were quick to shut down others cheering; despite our ""beloved"" PM killing thousands.
People on here said the same thing when Trump caught COVID, wagging their fingers at people praising it.
Man, it seems like that one second between both shots made all the difference. Wow...
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We don't live in a vacuum so it is more pertinent to react to our collective reality instead, in which this assassination will probably push Japan even further into ultranationalism, which is a terrible thing and an absolute tragedy, even if you don't endorse the "two wrongs don't make a right" creed.
Japan is pretty ultra-nationalist, and there are those who still think they are not hard enough.
Sure, that's the actual tragedy here, not the death of a fascist ultranationalist.
It is incredibly hard to not get caught. Almost all assassinations of public figures will result in arrests unless done by a party able to control the situation IE Russia killing political rivals. And organized crime doesn't want an even bigger foot of the law up their asses so public officials are almodt always off the table unless, again, your state is like Russia. To kill someone famous would mean signing away your life to prison. Most will not want that even if they feel hatred for the person.
His politics included denying Japanese war crimes in WW2. The dude was an ultranationalist and has moved Japan so far into ultranationalism that it may not return.
His 'politics' was racism.
When those politics cause death and pain on an untold scale it's fairly understandable. Just because state violence has the illusion of legitimacy doesn't mean it's not felt.
Now combine that with the current era of global politics where electoral resistance to this violence seems more and more unattainable and it's no surprise that people are a little less concerned with the safety of right wing monsters.
I don't endorse Abe's murder. But I don't mourn for him, either.
You want me to pretend to be sad a fascist is dead?
Guarantee if Trump got his spine blown out at a speech, most of the people tut-tutting would be posting .GIFs and memes.
what are politics to you? something someone does from 8-5pm and then checks out and becomes a good person?
shit sucks that it comes to this, but his anger was the catalyst that started this chain reaction
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I'm not sure how anything good is supposed to come from this as it just encourages more freaks to do assassinations.
Like, Abe sucked and his grandfather was a monster, but you generally do not want gun freaks to have the idea that they should do assassinations.
This will probably only help Abe's party in Japan and the Japanese police seem to think the shooter is a random loser with no coherent ideology or politics.
Like, Abe sucked and his grandfather was a monster, but you generally do not want gun freaks to have the idea that they should do assassinations.
This will probably only help Abe's party in Japan and the Japanese police seem to think the shooter is a random loser with no coherent ideology or politics.
View: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1545401081542443008
hillary clinton is the funniest person in politics sometimes. just generally, one of the dumbest people in the room
I think there's a big difference between Boris and Trump getting covid and cheering that on and somebody being assassinated and cheering that on.
Frankly I care more about the political effect this assasination will have in Japan, unfortunately pushing people further right. You don't win people's hearts by killing someone no matter how evil that person is.
Like if Hitler hadn't killed himself he should absolutely have been tried and imprisoned for his terrible crimes. Killing him would be letting him get off from facing his consequences. It's why I can't cheer Abe's death, he can't hurt anyone but he still got off light in relation to the pain he caused.
Frankly I care more about the political effect this assasination will have in Japan, unfortunately pushing people further right. You don't win people's hearts by killing someone no matter how evil that person is.
Like if Hitler hadn't killed himself he should absolutely have been tried and imprisoned for his terrible crimes. Killing him would be letting him get off from facing his consequences. It's why I can't cheer Abe's death, he can't hurt anyone but he still got off light in relation to the pain he caused.
What about women left behind in territories occupied by imperial Japan??
God I hate this ghoul
There's a massive gap between not feeling sympathy for someone who was killed, and literally endorsing his execution. I'd dance if Trump was murdered tomorrow, that doesn't mean I support that someone go out and kill him.